Dan Dakich takes a shot at CMP and Purdue Athletic dept.
by GeorgiaBoiler on Feb 20, 2012 7:29 PM EST
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PrintBarlow apparently was under a "no bar" rule. Instead of crediting Painter for doing the right thing he takes a cheap shot. How does Dakich know what Painter's team rules are anyway? Never have liked him.
Purdue situation..Never understood y it's ok for athletes to go to bars in season..only bad happens..it reflects poorly on ath dept..
“@HammerAndRails: @dandakich yep. An Indiana player has never entered a bar in-season. Ever.”.
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Dakich has the demeanor of a guy in a bar too drunk to drive. He isn’t singling Purdue out, its just a matter of we are the example right now. I agree with him though, should just avoid bars in season.
Well, tough week for me to try to disagree with him
because I’m not sure I want Purdue players going into bars in the month of February ever again, but to think that only bad things happen at bars during the season or that other teams’ players besides Purdue never go to bars seems exaggerated. We only hear when the bad things happen of course and bad things can definitely occur as we’ve unfortunately seen, but it doesn’t mean that only bad things happen. Clearly though, certain players who have agreements with the coach saying they won’t go to bars shouldn’t go to them.
I don't necessarily disagree with him either.
But Barlow broke the rule he was given by Painter which is why he is gone, Dakich seems to have completely missed that. I don’t think this situation reflects poorly upon our athletic department at all, to have not addressed it would have made us look bad. A couple of players screwed up and paid the consequences. I have a problem with Dakich always claiming that everything at Indiana under Knight was flawless and the manner in which he (Dakich) ran the program BG was equally perfect. Knight threw players off his teams for infractions just as Painter did and that in no way reflected poorly on Indiana athletics any more than this does on Purdue.
IU Sucks.
by GeorgiaBoiler on Feb 20, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
I think it sounds like a great policy!
Tell ya what, Dan – why don’t you just go ahead and implement that one into your team’s rules……? Wait, what’s that? You don’t coach a D1 NCAA basketball team? Had a few years at Bowling Green and a handfull of games as an HC at IU? You’re just a barking chihuahua on the sideline these days? That’s right, my bad.
carry on, nothing to see
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
by sea.of.white on Feb 21, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Dakich is a tool
The guy is rude to EVERY caller on his show regardless of what they’re saying, unless they’re a sports writer or tv analyst of some kind. Not sure how he keeps ratings to maintain a show at all. How does he have a clue what Painters team rules are?? He has ZERO room to criticize any coaches off the court rules.
by BoilerGOZ on Feb 20, 2012 8:17 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Totally agree...
used to like him but now that he’s “made it” he’s a total dick to callers. I like snark and sarcasm but he’s out of line half the time. I really think he’s sleep deprived (just look at him). He should focus on his terrible command of the English before he wants to criticize the ENTIRE PU athletic department. I’m sure Painter has a 24 or 48 or 72 hour drinking rule, but no matter what it is Dakich can go f*ck himself.
In his defense...
a lot of the callers who call into his show are complete morons and I’d probably be rude to them as well if I’ve had to sit and listen to them for the last couple of years. I don’t listen often because of work but there are plenty of times when I have caught his show that I simply turned it off because the callers were so annoying and incoherent.
I don't want to offend anyone because I know there are multiple reasons for not working a normal job with normal hours
But maybe the reason they are incoherent is because the show is 12-3, when most people are working.
So what you're saying...
is that “85% of the f*#king world’s workin’ and the other 15” listen to Dakich? Sorry, can’t pass up the chance to revisit a classic:
by CreakyOldBoiler on Feb 21, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Hey now
I’m pretty sure a number of the working class would have a lunch around there haha ;]
http://theboilermaker.blogspot.com/
by Bryan Steedman on Feb 21, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
I hate Dakich, but...
- and it pains me to say this, I agree with him. Athletes don’t need to be at bars in-season. Period. I get it: they’re young, they’re big men on campus and they’re human. But, they also have opportunities that 99% of the general campus population doesn’t have, and because of that, whether they like it or not, they’re held to a higher standard.
I’ll go so far as to say that Purdue should tighten the reins a bit on student athletes. Seems like there’s been way too many Purdue players in the news for bad decisions and stupid crimes (some serious).
We’re too good to be another O$U, USC, BAMA, etc…
As an MSU fan....
….I can assure that college athletes will get themselves into all sorts of shit without visiting bars. MSU football players apparently need to be barred from house parties, dance clubs, convienence store parking lots and fraternity potlucks, for instance.
by witless chum on Feb 21, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
If this wasnt Dakich this would be a nonstory and youd probably be agreeing with him.
http://theboilermaker.blogspot.com/
by Bryan Steedman on Feb 20, 2012 9:31 PM EST via Android app reply actions
how was he given a "no bars" policy
When he just turned 21 this week? Shouldn’t that be a given?
Boiler Up! Hammer Down!
by JuJuan some Moore? on Feb 20, 2012 9:34 PM EST reply actions
I’ve been inside plenty of bars before turning 21, just can’t “drink.”
Depends on the bar, but the idea of sports players getting into the bars isn’t crazy. Hell, college towns are full of underage kids not only getting into the bar (for 21+ bars), but also being able to still get drinks one way or another.
http://theboilermaker.blogspot.com/
by Bryan Steedman on Feb 21, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Bloomington was terrible about underage kids in bars
but within the last two to three years the excise have come down really hard on the bars. You can still get in if you know someone or are someone, but if you have no connections (either through contacts or a frat, etc.) you aren’t getting in without 2 valid IDs.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
East Lansing...
…was pretty tough on underaged drinking in bars 96-01 when I was there. Nobody among my friends much minded because it was so easy to find a house party Thursday through Saturday.
by witless chum on Feb 21, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
not sure if youve heard of this girl named lauren
by jack'sIUdisdain on Feb 21, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
C'mon, man.
Not cool.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Feb 21, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
classy
and we all know the circumstances around her ability to get in underage. Like I said, connections.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
It's classless
to bring up an underage girl who went missing after getting drunk at a bar in bloomington? They reported she had a fake ID, which is why I said it after you stated you arent getting in without two valid IDs.
by jack'sIUdisdain on Feb 22, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions
it's classless to bring up dead or missing people
in an attempt to put down another school. Lauren is off limits as is Wade Steffey. Unless you want to be a jackass.
"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James
by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Feb 22, 2012 9:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1
Wade Steffey wasn’t that long ago either. Sux we forget the things that occur at our own campus
To your call once more we rally...
by H Dot Jones on Feb 22, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Come on, Jack...
You should show class as Lauren’s friends did… Dump the body and never speak of her again!
It's more the way you brought it up. It was almost like you were taunting him. Maybe it just came across wrong.
Not to mention AJ said they’ve been cracking down for the past 2-3 years and she disappeared less than a year ago.
by all accounts she was an acquaintance with the staff
and it wasn’t the alcohol that caused her incoherence. But I’m not going into that stuff. Too sensitive a subject for a ton of people and the more you talk about the details, the bigger hole you dig from a public perception standpoint.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
Yea it isn't hard at all
Went to Sports and Roys about three weekends ago. A friend of mine got into both with one ID and it was a fake. I also go to Purdue, so needless to say we didn’t know anyone that worked there.
Boiler up, IU sucks.
I think no bars the day or 2 days before a game would be enough.
Other than that, just treat them like they are adults who know how to take care of themselves until they prove otherwise. A lot of people go to bars just to hang out with friends and have some fun, not to get drunk and causing troubles. It would be unfair to suck the fun out of every player’s college life just because a few of them have made bad decisions.
ALERT: If you don't like strong language, don't read what I'm about to say.
Dan Dakich, I’m speaking directly to you. HOW FUCKING DARE YOU take a shot at Purdue like that. I fucking love your “IU is perfect” shit that you have going on. Congratulations, they’re a tiny bit better this year…but you still got blown out by IOWA of all teams, who Purdue has swept. What bothers me is this…how you can possible try to accuse my University and my program of awful behavior when IU was caught NOT THAT LONG ago CHEATING!!! It’s fucking bullshit! Comment about Purdue again in that kind of fashion and you might hear from me personally.
Purdue fans, if you didn’t like that….tough. I’ve always hated Dakich and that’s been coming for a while.
by Jackson Brunner on Feb 20, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions
I'm angry at his second tweet...not the first one. Just to clarify.
by Jackson Brunner on Feb 20, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
He made some comment about how nothing happened under Knight's watch.
I think he failed to realize it was probably because the players were absolutely terrified of what Knight might do to them.
he basically said as much about Bowling Green
his BG players went to the bars…. once. A couple players and a BG police officer then vouched for him that they were terrified of the consequences.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
While I guess that keeps them out of the bars
I don’t think your players should be scared of what you might do to them. The relationship is supposed to work based on respect, not fear.
There's nothing else to do in BG besides go to the bar or party in the dorms.
Trust me on that, as my girlfriend lives in the dorms down there.
http://theboilermaker.blogspot.com/
by Bryan Steedman on Feb 21, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
I had a high school buddy that is down there as well
I know where you’re coming from. I visited him once and that was enough.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
A few things
Did Barlow break any rules aside from team rules? I know he violated a clear mandate that cmp had given him but that’s between those two, the team, and to much lesser extent, the purdue fan base. Who is this dickhead to judge the situation if Barlow didn’t even do anything wrong?
I don’t think it’s fair to say that NCAA athletes are amatures and students first but then turn around and forbid them from doing what students do. You can’t have it both ways: you either pay Them as professionals or let them be students (for better or worse).
It’s west Lafayette. What else are you supposed to do on a Thursday?
Another thing this guy said that I disagree with is that nothing good comes from athletes going to bars in season. Actually, a lot of good comes from it. First, it’s awesome for regular students to be able to socialize with the players, especially the high profile ones. Some of my best (albeit hazy) memories from my time there involved getting to know some of the players. It is also a good way for the players to blow off a little steam every once in an while.
Don't take this wrong
But as a current student you guys are so out of touch.
It’s Purdue, what else are you going to do Thursday through Saturday night?
I would understand a 48 hour rule or something like that which I’m sure they have since I never see them at the bars if a game is coming up.
But to suggest that student athletes shouldn’t be allowed to go out and enjoy themselves is ridiculous, they’re going to drink and do whatever anyways be it at the bars, a fraternity, or a house party. If they’re 21 they should be responsible enough to control themselves and have a good time.
Plus, what athlete would want to come here if they aren’t going to be allowed to enjoy themselves? Do we really want to turn into a public school version of BYU?
I'm a fan of the no bars in season rule
a 4-5 month moratorium isn’t all that much to ask. If you absolutely have to drink, it’s a college campus, there are house parties everywhere.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
Then with all due respect, what the hell is the difference?
House parties are way more likely to get out of control. An Illinois football player just got SHOT at one, for God’s sake.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Feb 21, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Um...
Well usually house parties actually aren’t as public as the bars are. That’s a huge difference, especially at Purdue where Chauncey is overcrowded and loaded with police.
Lafayette seriously needs to hand out more liquor licenses, when they closed the Yacht Club (Stacks) I was pissed.
the difference is you can choose your surroundings and context and control it
a bar is a public place that is out of your personal jurisdiction.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
one place or another
If a player wants to drink before a game they will get it somewhere. Bars may not be the right place but they will just get drunk and disorderly at an apartment or fraternity. I have heard many players being drunk prior to games. Not current players mind you, but some very talented players.
Link? I can't believe they would go with PI for that....that's assault/battery at least.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Feb 21, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Fuuu, .219 is almost what we shot 2nd half vs MSU
The more I read, the more I dislike this. Even legally drunk…ok, things happen. I doubt it’s the first time around this high but I hope it’s damn near the last.
Math:
14/30 = 1st half
8/35 = 2nd half = 228
by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 21, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
At first I read "hit"
And figured he was just pushing it away, things got heated, etc.
(insert four letter word of choice)
I bet this means another game or two. Maybe if he’s lucky just extra stairs.
by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 21, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he's a fan of Mike Tyson?
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by Bryan Steedman on Feb 21, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
People on this board flip out way too much everytime Dakich opens his mouth
Believe it or not, he’s one of the smartest college basketball announcers for ESPN.
I feel like the majority of people can’t look past his IU ties.
He’s 100 percent right about the bars. The only Iowa players you see at the bars are the ones that don’t play.
The world is not out to get Purdue fans.
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by HawkeyeBoiler on Feb 21, 2012 8:23 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I’ve always enjoyed his commentating and most of what he says. He can come off a bit tool-ish on Twitter at times but I like him for the most part. The problem is you have a bunch of people who watch sports (and maybe played sports in high school) that think they know everything so the second they hear something they disagree with then that person is an ‘idiot.’
http://theboilermaker.blogspot.com/
by Bryan Steedman on Feb 21, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Because you know if Dakich wet himself over Purdue everyone here would love him.
http://theboilermaker.blogspot.com/
by Bryan Steedman on Feb 21, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
x1000
But it’s the “Purdue Way” to hate Dan Dakich. I think Dakich is very knowledgeable of the game. I also think that if more Purdue people actually called into the show and stop thinking the state is out to get them—as well as the bball program keep on playing better— then maybe the persona of Purdue fans would change… seriously
To your call once more we rally...
by H Dot Jones on Feb 21, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
and that's the problem...
…maybe, we’re just haven’t been THAT good….
To your call once more we rally...
We were THAT good in 09-10 and 10-11…until Hummel went down with an ACL tear each year. It’s unfortunate but it is what it is
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by Bryan Steedman on Feb 22, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
what's not to love?
his hindsight is fabulous
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
by sea.of.white on Feb 22, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
Dakich says that Coach Painter is a friend of his, but...........
CMP is hardly ever on his show. It does make you wonder if he is such a good friend, why isn;t he on his show more.
Because he is busy coaching?
I personally like Dakich too, though I think in this particular instance he went a bit too far. But Painter is busy recruiting and coaching. Hummel was on his show not too long ago though. These guys are in the middle of the basketball season, he probably doesn’t have time to set up a radio interview.
I don't know...
Painter is on JMV every now and then in the afternoons.
Painter has been on a couple of times this season... about the same as Brad Stevens...
whenever I have time to listen to them— maybe a couple of times less, but Stevens has the advantage of at times actually driving to the circle and doing a show with Dakich. I would love to see the Clizzer have more of a regular spot on the show on a certain day like Fisher has on Mondays. Maybe its due to 1260 vs 1070? The 2 main things Dakich talks about on his show, is CBB and the Colts…. within the CBB its IU primarily (due to the majority of fans in the state being IU fans, as well as their resurrection this year) with Butler, Purdue vying for #2. It is what it is, but you have to comment to the show and talk Purdue BB, you also have to make your comments and questions count. Don’t be an idiot about everybody is out to get Purdue. They’re not. Believe it or not, Dakich murders a lot of IU fans when they have stupid comments to make.
To your call once more we rally...
he dissected the smattering of IU fans that booed Verdell Jones
it was magnificent.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
Hmm
I’m still surprised that happened (the booing).
was furious when it did
it was only a smattering of a couple students, but still, it pisses me off.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
Nothing wrong with Dakich
or what he said here. He’s stated he had a no bar rule at all for any of his players during the season. Can’t say that I necessarily agree or disagree with it, but can’t say that there is anything wrong with that approach.
Dakich has been very complimentary of Purdue and Painter for a long, long time, ever since he’s been on the air. If anything, I think he’s more critical of IU on his radio show than any other team in state.
I remember him interviewing Keady
It was entertaining. I laughed.
“I like him. They take care of each other over there.” after the interview.
It felt like a bit of gladhandling/complaining but radio hosts need to do that to keep the excitement. From a former coach from our archrivals, it was a nice surprise.
I’d argue that a no-bars policy could scare recruits away if it is too tight. Especially in a non-metro area. I think the best policy is: it’ll happen unless the player has strong beliefs. You get caught/seen drunk, you run a few extra laps or stairs at the least.
by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 22, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Lets not forget Jay Edwards
I think he was basically not told not to come back after the NCAA tournament. I believe there was drinking involved under Bobby’s watch.
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