Kelsey Barlow Dismissed: Addition By Subtraction?
by HawkeyeBoiler on Feb 19, 2012 3:53 PM EST
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PrintAddition by subtraction. Such a simple phrase. I haven't seen that thrown around about Kelsey Barlow until right now. No, it didn't come from a blogger or an angry fan. It came from a player.
Ryne Smith calls Kelsey Barlow dismissal 'addition by subtraction' for #Purdue.
This opens a handful of questions. Was Barlow a drain on the team off the floor? We all know his ability to disengage from a game at any time. When you have one of the senior leaders throwing you under the bus after the first game you are gone, it sends a message.
I don't know how I feel about that. Kelsey frustrated me to no end, but he had the most pure basketball talent on our team. He just had no ability or no interest in harnessing it. I won't say that we are going to be better without him, but if the team thinks that, it's good enough for me.
Good luck in your future Kelsey. Buy a wallet chain.
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there’s no context so I won’t read into it too much, but why is Smith saying this? No one else on the team would use those terms. Sounds to me like sour grapes coming from Smith. What a fucking idiot.
I’ve had the day he’s gone circled on my calendar for 4 years now
I've become convinced that YOU are Kelsey Barlow...
get on game threads somehow to post pictures of yourself.
by PurduePrincess on Feb 19, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
That would explain the irrational Smith-hate dumbassery.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Feb 19, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
this
makes a lot of sense. always posts the barlow memes. how though did he do it mid game I wonder?
by AAMB Boiler on Feb 19, 2012 5:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I agree with MrPink
Those are big words for a one trick pony. Smith got his a ball rack thrown at him by Barlow and still bitter, same something like this. Smith is a role player that should be playing 14-17 minutes a game, not starting and playing 31 min.
by boilerbacker31 on Feb 20, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
sounds like a 'we wont let this affect us' thing to me
if he dud mean bad on barlow its not the end of it
Is it too soon/snarky to suggest
It’s a good thing Barlow can’t get near any ball racks now? Regardless of how in-context that comment was?
This seems like a mis-speak or mis-quote, I hope…probably best to be more noncommittal…though if the team can focus/cohere better without Barlow, that’s a good thing.
by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 19, 2012 4:07 PM EST reply actions
nothing too look into too....
just another way of saying you have to move on and do better…..make a positive out of a negative sitaution
Full context via CBSsports.com
Quoted
G Ryne Smith said the Boilers will come together as a team following the dismissal of junior G Kelsey Barlow on Friday. "It’s addition by subtraction. [D.J. Byrd] is going to come back in full force. When he comes back on Wednesday night [against Nebraska] he’s going to be ready, I’ll tell you that much," Smith said.
good find.
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by HawkeyeBoiler on Feb 19, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
but it doesnt really clarify what Smith meant.
Could have done without the additon/subtraction comment.
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by HawkeyeBoiler on Feb 19, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.....which underscores the Coach Smith reference.
Do your job and be neutral as much as possible when dealing with the media. It can be perceived to be meant as a jab at Barlow when it’s not necessary. All he needed to say is we remain together as a team and wish nothing but the best for him down the road. Easy.
BTFU !!
I like it...
I’m glad Ryne came out and said this. Kelsey was selfish, put himself before the team off the court, and hurt Purdue every year at the same time down the stretch (“choke” sign at IU 2 yr ago = suspension, last year = suspension for tourney, instigating bar fight this year = dismissed). Why wish someone the best when they have done all these things (and other things off the court that haven’t made it to the media) to hurt your team? Good riddance Barlow…thanks for nothin
+1
and I love your handle. I hate the fuckers.
Banned from Clappy the Clown's Quarry and that's a good thing!
BTFU!
IU Sucks.
by GeorgiaBoiler on Feb 19, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
he got suspended for choke sign?
still a fan of the wildness that is KB12
"The goal remains the same"
by TimeToPlayHard on Feb 20, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Asked to respond to G Ryne Smith’s comment that G Kelsey Barlow’s dismissal from the program was “addition by subtraction,” coach Matt Painter said: "I don’t want to give Ryne Smith his opinion. He sees some things that I don’t. You’re looking through your own glasses and you move forward. When something happens and you’ve got to part ways with guys, it doesn’t make you feel good."
This sounds like personal dislike
Ryne Smith obviously had personal problems with kelsey barlow. I don’t know why there is such a love affair with ryne on these boards. If you say one negative thing about him, people call you a fan of a different team. I’ve never been the biggest fan of him and i think he shoots way too much and misses more than he makes. I am personally won’t ever miss him when he plays his final game with Purdue but Barlow i missed today.
*people on these boards
Smith is not loved as much outside these boards
So you miss being frustrated?
Kelsey was, overall, disappointing. He was supposed to be our best defender. How many times have we seen opposing PGs burn him? VCU, Xavier, OSU, PSU, the list goes on. He’s never been an elite defender, and he (mostly) refused to do what he was best on offense. There’s a reason he was called GDB. Ryne does what he was recruited to do. He takes care of the ball, isn’t a defensive liability (usually), and hits threes (sometimes).
by BoilertotheBone on Feb 19, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
yea, VCU really blew by him.
O wait, he didnt play
"The goal remains the same"
by TimeToPlayHard on Feb 19, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Oh. Crap. *facepalm*
That would be why I never saw him shut anyone down in that game…
by BoilertotheBone on Feb 19, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Smith has been a liability on defense a lot this year.
Close outs are slow as hell, which is something we cant have.
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by HawkeyeBoiler on Feb 19, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
It Was a One Dimensional Comment from a One Dimensional Player
a three point shooting matador on defense
by ZoKnowsDefense on Feb 19, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
no his athleticism and the fun part of him
He had some great moments like the dunk on sullenger and where he called hulls a “punk.” He was a bit crazy but there’s something to like about that. Every time he was out there, you could tell he was having fun. I don’t think he got burned as much as your trying to make it out to be. Ill give you vcu since he didn’t play but he wasn’t guarding buford or holloway. Everybody has their favorite players and that guy they don’t like as much. I was a fan of barlow and I’m not a big fan of smith. I think smith overestimates his ability to hit 3’s sometimes
Barlow was my second favorite player on the team behind Smith. The problem with Barlow is he’ll get to the rim effortlessly and shows a ton of potential but then will have his time where you have to wonder if he’s even trying out there. That was always the issue, he just kinda went out there and winged it. I still enjoyed him though
http://theboilermaker.blogspot.com/
by Bryan Steedman on Feb 19, 2012 5:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Don't get me wrong, I was a fan of Barlow.
He just frustrated me so much with his inconsistency. I know, shocker. How many layups did he miss? He missed a crucial one in the OSU game. Thats supposed to be his thing. I feel the same when Ryne clanks a wide open three. But at least Ryne will try to utilize his specialty. Seemed to me that Kelsey wasn’t as interested in doing what he did best.
by BoilertotheBone on Feb 19, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Sometimes he would bring it and other nights he did not care. He had the talent to be in the association but never put it all together here every night but had some great moments. I hope he tears up the mvc or horizon in 2013-14. I will cheer for him to do well and stay clean off the court no matter where he goes
Its weird you mention his shooting percentage
Because as of right now, his percentage is better than
Hummel, Anthony Johnson, John Hart, Terone Johnson.
And considering what percentage of those shots are 3’s… I’d say his shooting (44 percent) is pretty good. He also is ranked among the highest in the Big Ten for 3 point shooting percentage.
I could understand if you don’t like him because he’s one dimensional, but Ryne Smith is not a bad shooter at all.
by PurdueEnginerd on Feb 19, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I havent checked the last two or so games but Hummel has haf the lowest FG% most of this season if you dont count the walk-ons.
http://theboilermaker.blogspot.com/
by Bryan Steedman on Feb 19, 2012 5:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
misses more than he makes
I didn’t say he missed every shot. 44 percent is less than half and he takes a lot of uncontested 3’s.
Hes still shooting a higher % than most of our guys so would you rather see one of the others miss a 3 or jumper instead?
http://theboilermaker.blogspot.com/
by Bryan Steedman on Feb 19, 2012 5:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
ps
Only LewJack is shooting better at 46% unless you count Lawson, Marcius and Carrols inside shooting only and Beshears handful of shots.
Also, 42% from 3PT is very, very good. Dont act like since its under 50 its bad when everyone on this team that actually shoots shots in the game is in the 30s-40s range
http://theboilermaker.blogspot.com/
by Bryan Steedman on Feb 19, 2012 5:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'd rather see Byrd when he plays or AJ
They take it to hoop more often and have a better ability to draw the foul. We need an espn stat that shows what smith shoots on contested shots.
Give me a break
There are only 4 players in all the NCAA that have 3 point shooting percentages above .500. Anywhere above .400 is pretty damn good, especially when you take his volume of shots into account.
and over 100 in front of smith
Including Byrd who is a better at rebounding and defending and most of the guys in the top 100 have taken over 100 like smith has and most of smith’s are uncontested after Lew Jack sets him up.
Gonna be honest
Barlow was playing really well this year and I’m going to miss him a ton. Smith obviously had a problem with him, and I’m sure other issues came up too, but let’s think about it, if the whole team had issues with him no one would’ve come to help him out at Where Else to begin with. Sure, he may have posed a distraction, but even when he was only using part of his athletic ability, he was one of our best and most reliable players this year.
Every player...
misses more than they make
just checked top 100
Byrd is number 63 in the nation at 3 point percentage(matt roth is #1) and smith is no where close to the top 100. Most of the guys on the list have shot more than 100 of them. If you’re going to be one dimensional, you at least have to be among the leaders of that one dimension.
Matt roth is 2
Some guy from a small school is 1 with .605
kinda funny
that Smith stood up for Barlow when Drew Crawford and Kelsey got into it. but maybe that’s just part of being a team.
no that’s just smith trying to act hard. Look closely at anytime there is a conflict, Smith is quick to the scene. Even when he was on the bench lol! Painter chewed his ass out for that one.
Dude, get off of Smith.
We get you don’t like him, we don’t need your negative spin on everything he does every time he’s mentioned.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Feb 19, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
I agree.
I don’t get all the Smith hate and all the Barlow defense. Barlow screwed up and now he’s paying the price. My guess is that Smith and most of the rest of them are pissed at his serial screwing up and he’s just venting a bit.
by GeorgiaBoiler on Feb 19, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
You've not met smith or seen him on campus
The guy walks around with the biggest ego. Most players like lew jack, hummel, or barlow will have a friendly conversation and smith walks around like he’s Lebron James. I’ve never met a student who says man i love ryne smith, friendliest guy on earth. Smith was the only guy on the team to have a problem with Barlow. The rest came to his defense at Where Else
by BoilerBen on Feb 20, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Smith was the only guy on the team to have a problem with Barlow. The rest came to his defense at Where Else
And you’re privy to all the team dynamics? I was on campus with Troy Lewis, Everette Stephens, Todd Mitchell, Steve Scheffler, Kip Jones, etc and other than seeing them on campus or in a bar occasionally I didn’t know shit about went on between them all and neither did anyone else I knew at the time. Guess things must have changed.
Banned from Clappy the Clown's Quarry and that's a good thing!
BTFU!
IU Sucks.
by GeorgiaBoiler on Feb 20, 2012 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
I know some people in the inside like managers
Also you can tell by how a person treats normal people is how they treat the people on the team. Bubba Day was a walk on who could hit a garbage time 3 and the building would explode simply because he is one of the nicest people in the world. Fans and fellow players wanted him to succeed because he didn’t act cocky just because he was on the basketball team. Besides Robert Marve, Smith is the most disliked athlete on campus.
Forgot to add...
Troy Lewis was my neighbor one year at the Presidential Villa apt complex out off Hwy 52 (now a shithole occupied by illegal Mexicans but in the 80s a nice complex) and I used to see him in the parking lot and although very friendly he was very tight lipped about the inner workings of the BB program. Maybe Keady’s Kids were on a tighter leash, I dunno.
Banned from Clappy the Clown's Quarry and that's a good thing!
BTFU!
IU Sucks.
by GeorgiaBoiler on Feb 20, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
haha
that place IS disgusting now!
by Bloomington.Boiler on Feb 20, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
That’s him. Johnny Hard Ass. Love it.
by boilerbacker31 on Feb 20, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
People in Glass Houses Shouldn't Throw Stones
keep it to yourself Ryne Smith. Take the time and learn how to create your own shot and play something that resmbles consistent defense and then we can discuss “addition by subtraction” when you get those concepts under your belt.
by ZoKnowsDefense on Feb 19, 2012 5:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm trying to recall
why Barlow was suspended last year. Wasn’t one of the strikes that he got into a fight with Ryne at practice? If that’s the case, it might explain the comment.
by BoilerBeamer on Feb 19, 2012 5:43 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Got to imagine it's taken out of context
Even if Smith doesn’t like Barlow, he has to realize the attributes Barlow can bring to the team and our inability to fill the void. I find it hard to beleive Smith wouldn’t acknowledge that.
Barlow is one of those players that is extremely valuable but it’s hard to articulate why. His stat sheet is solid but he brings more than that. The timing of a steal, a rebound, and basket…. We are a very weak defensive team on the perimeter and Barlow was our best defender. He could also play the #3 and stop players like Dawson from doing what he wants, when he wants. Excluding his mental and personal issues, I’d say he is our most valuable player after Hummel just because we absolutely can not backfill the things he does.
Coach Painter postgame, on Barlow's dismissal.
Quoted from PurdueHoops youtube video of the post game presser:
“It is disappointing, because you put in time with guys, you give guys a second chance, and that’s what [coaching] is all about. You think about the chances you get in life, you think about someone sticking by you. And I know I’ve had people stick by me when maybe they shouldn’t have, but I stood by somebody. It didn’t pay off, and I feel like I let our team down by doing that because I made a decision that was best for an individual, but in the long run wasn’t best for our team.”
Wow
What a statement from such a stand up guy! Matt Painter rocks!
by buddha58 on Feb 19, 2012 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That is a seriously sharp knife right there. Surgically sharp.
Hope Kelsey takes those words, frames them and reads them each morning when gets up. 10 years from, I hope he proves to be a shining example of someone who used this unfortunate part of his life as motivation to never let opportunity slip away again.
BTFU !!
In Painter we trust.
Matt will do what is best for the team. He is an alum.
If this was the case...
…then why did Hummel and Byrd have Barlow’s back Thurs. night? Of course there is more than we know, but Hummel of all people, more so than Smith, would know better if Barlow was worth standing up for off the court for something as silly as this.
by docjay0 on Feb 19, 2012 8:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
smith
Has his limitations he doesn’t really do anything well but ahoot 3s but he always plays hard and wld not quit on his team like kelsy did last yr
by clappy the clown on Feb 19, 2012 9:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Waiting for the other shoe to drop
That’s what always killed me with Barlow. He is the anti-boiler. He doesn’t exude the toughness, consistency or fundamentals that we envision when we think of Boilermaker Basketball.
Every Top 10 dunk was followed by an ugly turnover or taking a defensive possession off. This season was far and away his best on the court, so it makes sense that it would end with such a resounding thud.
Painter did the right thing...
and it will become evident as time goes on.
by GeorgiaBoiler on Feb 19, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
That's a strech
Wasn’t tough? He was by far the toughest on the team. Barlow is twice a valuable as Smith. Smith is a one trick pony and rarely hits a tough shot. And misses a ton a free throws for a “sharp shooter”
by boilerbacker31 on Feb 20, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
Okay, we get it, you don't like Smith.
But Barlow wasn’t a tough basketball player, no. He might think he was a badass, but starting shit on the court doesn’t make you tough. Getting in there and busting your ass for 40 minutes and going hard ALL THE TIME to get the win, that’s a tough basketball player. Kramer never started a fight (got some started against him, but never initiated) and he was the toughest damn athlete I’ve ever seen. Barlow never cared. Smith has more basketball toughness than Barlow, and they both pale next to Byrd.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Feb 20, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Please explain
how Smith has basketball toughness? I must not be watching the same Smith.
by boilerbacker31 on Feb 20, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
ok
maybe someone hacked your H&R account and wrote that for you
by boilerbacker31 on Feb 20, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Smith hustles his ass off.
He gives a damn. Always. He leads the team in drawn charges. He cares and doesn’t mind showing it.
All things you could never say about Barlow.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Feb 20, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with you.
I like Smith a lot and don’t understand all the Smith hate on here. Barlow created his situation, he has no one but himself to blame. I guess at least you and I will miss Ryne next year. The following is copied from my GBI Express that received this morning (if it is not okay to copy and paste this here because of copyright then TMill please delete), it sounds like there were some real ongoing issues with Kelsey.
“When Ryne Smith used the term "addition by subtraction" in reference to Barlow’s dismissal, he actually put into words what others behind the scenes around Purdue’s program have mentioned. You have to keep in mind in situations like this, though, that it’s easy to say such once things have turned out the way they have. But there’s no question that the drama that always seemed to surround Barlow —very little of which actually became public— grew tiresome, as did the generally casual, goofy (for lack of a better term) attitude that came to define him during his college career and often irritated teammates and coaches. "
-GBI Express
IU Sucks.
by GeorgiaBoiler on Feb 20, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Says who?
How do you know that his attitude irritated his teammates and coaches? Why would he start or even play for that matter?
by boilerbacker31 on Feb 20, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Read my post.
I didn’t say that, it was reported in GBI.
IU Sucks.
by GeorgiaBoiler on Feb 20, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'm Glad Smith
picked up the rebounding slack from the loss of Barlow in the game Sunday. Someone that tough and committed should at least account for a rebound in a game where rebounding was critical.
by ZoKnowsDefense on Feb 21, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
OK
charges that’s fine. you’re right. and Hustle, ok…you’re right. But Smith belongs coming off the bench…don’t you agree?
by boilerbacker31 on Feb 20, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
I'm okay with him as a starting 2.
Do I think he’s a 35+ mpg guy? No, but there aren’t a whole lot of options. The way I see it, you have:
1. Robbie
2. LewJack
3. Byrd
4a. Smith
4b. TJ
4c. AJ
4d. Hart
Plus whatever Hanson brother suits your tastes.
I don’t think TJ or AJ are ready for starter’s minutes yet. Without Barlow, you put Byrd @ the 3, Ryne at the 2, and rotate your guards as you like. You can certainly make a case for one of the Johnsons to start, but without Barlow, Smith is a starter to me.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Feb 20, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
I was numbering players by quality IMO, not position, FYI.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Feb 20, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Disaster??
We are two home wins away from af 9-11 seed in the NCAA tournament..Ask Northwestern how awful that is..
Maybe it hasn’t been quite what we had hoped for, but it really hasn’t been nearly as bad as people are saying. Just looking at this board you would think these comments apply to an Illinois type team, not one that is still in good position for the tournament and 6th place in the best conference in the country (with a chance to still get to 5th).
Ask Northwestern how awful that is
I’m not worried about Northwestern because they haven’t had a relevant basketball team in forever.
I wasn’t expecting this team to compete for a Big 10 title or anything like that, you don’t lose guys like Moore and JJ and expect to be as good or better than last year but this team has had so many chances to be better and haven’t taken them.
Maybe disaster is a bit strong of a word but it’s been a let down.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Eh, it's been pretty bad
No quality wins at Mackey
Blowout road loss to PSU
Two heartbreaking second half meltdowns (Butler, Xavier)
The recent Byrd/Barlow mess
And the cherry on this shit sundae, losing to IU at home
Not to say there have been no positive moments
But I had higher hopes than the above
True
I also had much higher hopes, and definitely didn’t expect to go 0-4 in big home games this season.
I think a let down is a much better description than disaster though. Plus,the season isn’t over, so I’m not ready to say “Oh this season was awful” quite yet. If DJ comes back firing and Robbie keeps playing like he has, we could still end this year on a positive note.
Barlow
Barlow for his entire career has been inconsistent. One minute a play that makes you go “Holy Cow!” and the next “What the Hell was that?” Barlow never looked like be belonged on the team, he always had an outsider feel. Ryan, I like Ryan, but he frustrates the crap out of me with his pump fake, that doesn’t fake and his limited shooting. Barlow was a great defender, but so is Smith. In the long run, I think Barlow was a cancer in the locker room and on the floor. The chemistry was never there and for Purdue to be successful they need chemistry. His issues were just masked for years by Hummel, JJ and E.
How was Barlow a cancer in the locker room?
People continue to make statements without producing any facts and I am curious as to what you know.
by boilerbacker31 on Feb 20, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Smith a Great Defender???
not on Planet Earth
by ZoKnowsDefense on Feb 20, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, smith is horrendous on D
worst defender on the team besides AJ or Marcius.
by Bloomington.Boiler on Feb 20, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Why exactly was he kicked off?
He wasnt arrested. He just happened to be around? I don’t understand how he got in trouble but Hummel and Co. didnt for being there
"The goal remains the same"
by TimeToPlayHard on Feb 20, 2012 11:52 AM EST reply actions
Third strike
My understanding of what went down was, Barlow’s b-day was on Tuesday, they went out Thursday night. Barlow got thrown out of WhereElse and forgot his wallet. He went back later with Byrd, Hummel, LewJack and others to get his wallet and they wouldn’t give it to him (since they were closed). Something happened and Byrd started to shout when a State Trooper drive by. Byrd gets a PI. Barlow gets kicked off the team because he signed a contract with CP that says he will not go to the bars.
by boilerbacker31 on Feb 20, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
I have no problem with Ryne feeling this way. I'm sure he's not the only one.
But did he really need to go public with it? What is to be gained by this? If you have such an issue with Barlow causing a disruption with team chemistry and causing distractions, then why would you make an inflammatory statement that could further fracture relationships on the team with those that are still good friends with Kelsey. In this respect he is placing his own need to trash Barlow ahead of the program.
by weasel cleaner on Feb 20, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions
yea unnecessary dig at KB
"The goal remains the same"
by TimeToPlayHard on Feb 20, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Future
Why do I have a feeling that we’ll see him in a Michigan St. jersey in the future? He’ll be Izzo’s Brandon Wood!!!
Not to nitpick...but isn't Brandon Wood Izzo's Brandon Wood?
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Feb 21, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Replacing Barlow
Barlow didn’t always even fill his own shoes, so replacing him shouldn’t be that big of deal. Boiler fans were always in love with what Barlow could be, not with what he was.
That said, I wish the best to him, and hope he finds his way. Best of Luck GDB.
ps – not having Byrd is what killed us vs. MSU
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