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Climbing The Ladder: Purdue Sweeps Northwestern

This Big Ten basketball season is all about where you fall on the ladder. We've seen that anyone can beat anyone else on any given night. We've already dropped three games at home, where we were previously impregnable. Still, the top seven teams in the league will likely be safe for NCAA consideration because of that competitiveness. That means that you need to do everything possible to assure you have some leverage over those teams battling to stay in the top seven.

After tonight, Purdue now has full leverage over two of those teams that we may be on the Bubble with. We have beaten Minnesota in our only meeting with the Golden Gophers, and it gets an extra boost because it came on their floor. We also now have a sweep of Northwestern. With Nebraska, Penn State, and Iowa definitely out of the at large equation that means we should be able to get into that top seven, especially if we also get a sweep and leverage over Illinois on Wednesday.

This was a scary game. Northwestern hadn't won four straight conference games in almost 50 years and they were playing some pretty good basketball. They would likely be in the NCAA Tournament right now if they had not lost to Purdue and Illinois at home. John Shurna was throwing everything in the basket. We didn't have a great game defensively, but we attacked the basket and made Northwestern pay for mistakes. No matter what happens now we have a definite card to play over two teams in the conference when it comes to the NCAA Tournament. Now we need to make it count.

Star-divide

Positives from the second Northwestern game:

D.J. Byrd - if we make the NCAA Tournament it is because of D.J. Byrd. This team is in need of a hot hand right now, and Byrd has been exactly that. He nearly led us to a huge road upset at Ohio State and tonight 18 second half points, including several huge baskets in the last eight minutes won this game. His first big basket was a three with 7:19 left that put us in front for good at 57-55. Terone Johnson and Ryne Smith followed with threes of their own and the lead was comfortable the rest of the way.

D.J. also added a huge putback and his full-court pass to Ryno for an easy layup was another key basket. This is the Byrd we need not just this year, but next year when he has to provide senior level leadership and scoring. What made the Baby Boilers so successful? Terrance Crump and upperclassmen like Marcus Green provided guidance and good backup scoring. Byrd needs to be a double figures scorer the rest of his career at Purdue.

Kelsey Barlow - My goodness, how much has he grown, especially in the last two games? He had 10 points, eight rebounds, solid defense, and played exactly like we need him to play in every game. By frustrating Drew Crawford he drew the first technical (at the expense of his own tech), and the rest of the night he was active on the glass. I have long said he has the potential to be our most active rebounder. With us going small tonight that paid off. He has to attack he basket when he has the ball and when every shot goes up. That's where his critical scoring comes from.

Robbie Hummel - Is Rob coming out of it at the right time? I sure hope so. In the first half he was shooting straight up, getting arc on his shot, and everything in his form looked much better. That led to 13 huge points. He would finish with a very quiet 27 (or at least as quite of 27 as he can have) and move past Brian Cardinal on the Purdue scoring list. He'll likely move into the top 15 against Illinois past Jaraan Cornell too.

More importantly, Rob got to the line and was 12 of 14. Remember the Illinois game two years ago right before the injury? His shot wasn't falling, so Rob got to the line. As one of our very few consistent free throw shooters we need to have Rob in attack mode so he can get to the line.

Free Throw Shooting - I never though 72.7% would be a good night for us, but it is over the Mendoza Line I have arbitrarily established at 70%. D.J. was a perfect five for five, but Anthony Johnson was 0 for 2 and Lewis Jackson was 3 for 6.

Terone Johnson - It seemed like all of TJ's baskets were big ones. His three came at a huge moment when we were finally able to take control. His two second half floaters also helped keep them at bay. As one of our inside-out guys, TJ has to keep attacking, Unlike Barlow, I trust him a little more to step out and take the open three when given. As long as he knocks it down with some regularity it adds a dimension to our offense.

Ryne Smith - Ryno had a very big 14 points and seems to be finding his three point shot. I am absolutely in favor of him coming off the bench. He's more dangerous that way for some reason.

LewJack - I think LewJack should be starting, but with eight assists and his continued ability to attack the rim he's getting it done.

Rebounding - Out of 343 Division I teams the Wildcats rate 325th in rebounding nationally. You're damn right we should have won the battle on the glass, and during our string of 12 straight misses in the first half our ability to get on the glass kept their lead at just one. Barlow, TJ, and LewJack each had three offensive boards. Travis Carroll barely played, while Jacob Lawson and Sandi Marcius didn't play at all. On that point...

Matt Painter - He's taken a lot of criticism of late, but he has been masterful in each of the last two games about getting guys in the right spot and exploiting weaknesses. Ohio State was vulnerable to that high screen, so we kept running it and even got some easy baskets for Lawson and Carroll off of it. Tonight he knew Northwestern was vulnerable to a smaller lineup, so we went small and attacked the rim. The man can indeed coach a little bit and doesn't need JaJuan Johnson and E'Twaun Moore to win in this conference.

Negatives from the second Northwestern game:

Perimeter defense - Once again, a team shot better than 40% from long range. This cannot continue if we're going to do anything in the final six games. One of the critical games going forward is at Indiana, and to have a chance there we need to defend the three even though they were just 3 of 10 from long range the first time around. Ohio State was not a good three point shooting team, but they shot the lights out from long range.

This was also the second straight game we gave up a 30 point scorer. That's fine as long as we're scoring 85 points per game, but we're going to get into some defensive struggles here in the last six. Those are the games where a John Shurna is going off can make a huge difference. Reggie Hearn looked like he was going to become a BOMAFUWFWLOFST winner for awhile there. I don't know what is wrong with our perimeter defense, but if we ever fix it things will get a lot easier.

Up next:

Wednesday night at Illinois now becomes a huge game for both us and Illinois. The Fighting Illini are on the verge of breaking. At 16-9 and 5-7 in the Big Ten a Purdue win can all but assure we'll finish ahead of them and Northwestern with a critical 4-0 record against both. It also means we can assure ourselves of a likely safe 9-9 Big Ten record as long as we handle our business at home against Nebraska and Penn State. At that point, anything we get out of the home game against Michigan State and the trips to Michigan and Indiana are mere bonuses.

On Illinois' end, they are almost done. If they fall to 5-8 in the league they still have to go to Wisconsin and Ohio State, plus host Michigan. Suddenly, a below .500 mark and no NCAA trip seems very likely for them. They desperately need to defend their home court, but we've already beaten them by 15 and they lost their last home contest to the same Northwestern team we just beat. They have lost 6 of 7, their one victory was an ugly 42-41 home win over Michigan State, and it is very safe to call their season on the brink.

That means it is an opportunity to make our lives a whole hell of a lot easier. We can help secure our place in the NCAA Tournament and eliminate one of our biggest direct rivals for that spot in one game. I'd much rather face Michigan State next Sunday feeling like it is a bonus if we get the game rather than absolutely needing it.

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biggest positives were the hustle and focus

if we finish 6th we get nebraska or penn state then wisconsin or michigan in all liklihood in the btt

by Strawmy on Feb 12, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

seems like the gap between those who play and those who don’t is growing very large. Lawson, Marcius, Hart and Carroll, all non factors in this game

by mrpink51089 on Feb 12, 2012 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

Ummm, only two of the four you mentioned even played tonight.

Carrol and Marcius didn’t play much because NW has a small, speed oriented lineup that would exploit their lack there of. Hart didn’t play much because honestly all the other guards are playing better than him. Lawson I wished to see play. He put in some quality minutes the last few games.

by herby20 on Feb 12, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Lawson

My guess is he struggled in practices on defending NW offense/defense. If you remember, he didn’t play in the game in Evanston either.

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Feb 12, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That's fine

Teams trim down the rotation late in the season and play only the best players. I like having LewJack coming off the bench and putting Byrd in the starting lineup. I hope TJ’s back is fine after the hard fall he took.

by charlespig on Feb 12, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

If I remember reading elsewhere correctly, Marcius and Lawson didn’t fit into the NW gameplan based on the style Northwestern tends to play.

The only two games this season Lawson hasn’t played in have been against Northwestern.

Also, less playing time for both of them makes sense when you consider Painter has been using a smaller lineup more often as of late.

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by Bryan Steedman on Feb 13, 2012 5:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Mendoza line quibble!

Because I love that phrase and what it stands for.

it is over the Mendoza Line I have arbitrarily established at 70%.

I’d call the Mendoza Line more like 50-60%. It’s more about being so awful, no matter how good the D. 70% is respectable and I think a good goal so the point still stands. But I think the Mendoza Line should be close to the eFG% to signify the lack of expected increased offense at the stripe.

I wasn’t able to see much of this game but hope TC comes up big against Meyers Leonard again. If so, we can probably focus better on the perimeter defense that’s been getting hit.

by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 12, 2012 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

1 other thing...

I remember from Keaton Grant’s Access Granted, what Painter wrote on the board after the loss @NU in 2010 (72-64.) 328. That was NU’s offensive rebound rank. And they killed Purdue.

This team isn’t appreciably more athletic or experienced than the 2010 team, but they still did what they needed to, which is underrated. It’s weird, you can’t look around for a pat on the head for doing stuff right, but do enough everyday stuff (rebounding) right and good things happen. Maybe this team learned that the hard way the past week—and the nice way today?

by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 12, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Only thing I remember from that book is the lack of editing.

Typo city.

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by HawkeyeBoiler on Feb 12, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ouch, yeah

I remember that from the previews, and it’s too bad he didn’t find someone willing to rip through all that. There were some good moments there & if it wasn’t an NCAA violation I bet a lot of basketball fans (TAs or fellow students) with proofreading pedigrees would’ve been glad to help. (I know Robbie Hummel encouraged him but encouargement goes so far.)

I would’ve been thrilled to. But criticism’s hard to ask for and take.

by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 12, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

If he had termed it a "class project"

then he probably could have gotten the folks over at the OWL to help him out.

To your call once more we rally....

by BoilerPaulie on Feb 12, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

look

At the standings we are in 6th place and only 4 teams have fewer losses than us. Every team ahead of us is ranked. We are in the top half of the best confrence in America . Mark Twain said reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated . I hope everyone sticks with this team until the end . No wonder all the national media writes us off year after year they feed us their shit and we eat it . I prefer apple pie . I am a true fan . When Robbie says it’s over then I will say it’s over ! Until then take it one game at a time . We have made the tourney every year but the first with Matt . I would be writing the same thing if we lost by 20 count on it . BTFU !!!!!!!!!!!!

by oldboiler52 on Feb 12, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

Who are you and what have you done with oldboiler?

He never writes with punctuation!

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by Danulas on Feb 12, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Great post, by the way.

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by Danulas on Feb 12, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Well Said!

OldBoiler,
You are on the verge of becoming my favorite Purdue fan. (though you have a ways to go, to pass C-Pig). You have a knack for focusing on the positives, when others only see our shortcomings. We are far from pretty, but we often do the things it takes to win (like not turning it over). Painter seems to have this team playing some of its better basketball at the right time, and found guys (DJ Byrd) to deliver.

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by Boilers2Indy on Feb 12, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we should call Byrd the Phoenix

Because he’s on FIRE!

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by btfu_crespo on Feb 12, 2012 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

Can we call Byrd the "Aerial Assassin"?

Because the way he’s been dropping bombs lately has been on point! Plus it fits with his name.

by mfennema on Feb 13, 2012 1:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Can we call Byrd the "Aerial Assassin"?

Because the way he’s been dropping bombs lately has been on point, and it fits with his name well.

by mfennema on Feb 13, 2012 1:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Missed most of the game tonight..

But I’m disappointed to hear Lewjack was still out of the starting lineup. I think Ryno needs to be our 6th man, but it’s gotta be hard for Lew to seemingly have lost his spot as a senior. I’m encouraged to see Rob get some swag back and Ryne look like he’s getting his shot zeroed in. I have renewed confidence that we should be able to make the tourney.

by BoilerGOZ on Feb 12, 2012 11:09 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Ryne won't be in the starting lineup next game

Against Illinois, we need bigs, that means TC. Hummel is a sure starter, so as Byrd with his recent play. The other two spots likely go to Kelsey and one of the Johnsons.

by charlespig on Feb 12, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

if Illinois plays defense the way they did against IU

LewJack better start and have 20 points. Their perimeter defense couldn’t stop a toddler on a tricycle last Thursday.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Byrd and Barlow

I am excited to see Byrd and Barlow how i always pictured they should play. It is a great asset to this team for Byrd to be scoring and Barlow to be slashing and rebounding. It also gets me excited for these two being our senior leaders next year. Boiler Up!!

by ferrisboiler on Feb 12, 2012 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

Byrd Postgame

BTN did a quick interview that aired in the wrap up show, but I thought he said something very telling. They asked about Purdue scoring 80 twice in a row now. He said that he thinks people are finding their roles; who should be shooting, who should be passing, who should be driving. I feel like TMill and others have been harping on this for a while, but that it’s very smart. Last two games it feels like Lew, Barlow, and TJohn have driven hard more often and the shooting has fallen on Rob, Byrd, and Smith. This is really important going forward and I feel like if they are starting to figure it out now, this could be more than riding a hot streak and could be offensive production that sticks.

by ElijahJones22 on Feb 13, 2012 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

The circle

It’s because the defender’s foot was on the circle – it’s something that’s clearly objective. If the defender is on or in the circle, it’s a block. If he’s outside, it’s the ref’s discretion.

by RotoJeff on Feb 13, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

they can now because of the circle

Myers Leonard trucked Derek Elston last Thursday and was called for a charge, but they checked the replay and saw his heel was on the arc line. So it was reversed to a blocking foul, even though Leonard was clearly the aggressor. I’m happy they got the call right from a basketball standpoint, but I don’t know how I feel about using the replay to confirm it. I’m a bit old school in the sense that officiating error is a part of the game.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Hope it's not the slippery slope

Started with checking replays for time left on the clock, to checking 3 pointers, now the arc.

by Bobobi on Feb 13, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Replay?

If I remember right, the refs talked it over and reversed the charge before they went to the monitors. I thought they overturned it among discussions between eachother. That’s always been legal, but it’s rarely done because it admits they’re human.

by mastertim on Feb 13, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

didn't actually see the discussed play with NW-Purdue

but they did go to the monitor for the IU-IL game.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t like that.

by mastertim on Feb 13, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

not sure I do either

but I’m one of those same people that bitches about those who fight replay in baseball.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I think...

that as long as they go 4-2 in their last 6 games that they are a tourney lock. Puts them at 20 wins on the year and 10-8 in the B1G. 4-2 seems very doable to me.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Feb 13, 2012 7:26 AM EST reply actions  

I think the general consensus on this site is that

3-3 plus 1 in the BTT should get us in, but I would prefer 6-0 plus winning the BTT to really feel safe.

by PU03 on Feb 13, 2012 8:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I would agree with that

3 wins and you’re in. 2 wins and it gets a little iffy. A ton would be riding on the BTT in Purdue only wins two more games. It is strange in that essence how one single win is the difference in safely in and nail biting on Selection Sunday.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

When the one win is the difference between 9-9

And a losing conference record I think it’s fair. Kind of like how you can go to a bowl game if you’re 6-6 but not if you have a losing record. UCLA is the exception that proves the rule.

by PU03 on Feb 13, 2012 9:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Four inthe regular season and we're locked.

There is no way we’re kept out at 20 wins overall, 10 in league play, and quality out of conference wins over Temple and Miami.

Three more probably makes us safe too, but I’d like to get a win in the BTT to be totally safe.

Two more is dicey. We wouldn’t deserve to go at 8-10 in the Big Ten, but if we get hot in Indy and make it to Saturday or even Sunday we’re back in the discussion.

As long as we beat Illinois on Wednesday we damn well better get three more wins with Penn State and Nebraska at home upcoming.

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by BoilerTMill on Feb 13, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Alway hate to beat Bruce !

But you gotta do what you gotta do ! But I think they will fire him anyway . If we play small I think we can win every game remaining . Its our best chance to win let the other teams match up to us. I know on paper we should lose 4 of the 6 but you don’t play on paper. Think about it Bruce beat MSU and OSU ! and he’s going to be unemployed.

by oldboiler52 on Feb 13, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

whether it's a popular rumor or not,

I can’t help but think it anyway. He seems well past his prime and hasn’t really done much with his own players’ development.

To your call once more we rally....

by BoilerPaulie on Feb 13, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

inb4 Illinois goes after Steve Prohm of Murray State

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by Danulas on Feb 13, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

However

There is no damn way we’re beating IU at Ass Hall on Senior night. If anyone is going to be playing hard, it’s going to be them.

by Kodiak33 on Feb 13, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

08-09

We lost on our senior night to NW. Sometimes Senior night can be more of a distraction than a motivator. IU better watch out.

by mastertim on Feb 13, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

remember, there was no damn way we'd even be competitive against Ohio State

And if we were allowed to play defense against baby Sully we win. I suspect Zeller will get similar treatment in the Hall of Calls, especially if it is his Senior Night too (should he go to the Draft).

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by BoilerTMill on Feb 13, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Value City

The atmosphere in Value City is not even close to the vile air that is Assembly Hall.

by Kodiak33 on Feb 13, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Indiana had no problem handling our vile air

and they have more trouble winning away from home than we do.

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by BoilerTMill on Feb 13, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

but if IU wins on Wednesday

they have the same trouble winning away as Purdue does. Purdue’s away schedule has been, Iowa, Minn, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan State and Northwestern. Indiana’s has been Michigan State, Penn State, Ohio State, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan and Purdue.

We’ve played the non-IU top 5 teams in the conference on the road and two bottom feeders. Purdue has played the top 2 and then 4 of the bottom 5.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Well...

Purdue shot under 30%. It doesn’t matter what kind of atmosphere you play in when the home team shoots that percentage.

Unfortunately we (Purdue), do this more often than not.

by Kodiak33 on Feb 13, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I realize that

but if we’re going to toally give up and say there is no chance we win then there is little point in even going to Bloomington

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by BoilerTMill on Feb 13, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree TMill

Nobody gave us a chance in Columbus and as you just said, we might as well of not even made the trip. Without the officials sucking off Sullinger the whole game, we upset OSU. While it may be unlikely to beat IU in Ass Hall, stranger things have happened and I would have placed more money on a win in Bloomington than a win in Columbus.

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

IU's Players

Are not as good as OSU’s though. And they are the ones that score, not the fans.

I’m not predicting a W but it’s not crazy to think Byrd could come out 4-4 from deep and then the crowd is out of the game for an extended stretch and we just hold on…

by BoilerchE on Feb 13, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you here

it wouldn’t be crazy to think that Purdue can come out hot and put the pressure on in Bloomington. No Purdue-IU game is an easy win. What you described here is essentially what Minnesota did and then there were runs that the crowd could get back into it with an IU bucket and they’d make a silly pass or take a dumb shot. IU is far from flawless at home.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, Bruce kind of deserves it.

He had great success with a team full of players coached by Self. Since those players left and Weber’s players are the ones playing, his success has fallen dramatically. His teams almost always have a conference season collapse after starting hot. His teams almost always have plenty of talent and do basically nothing with it.

by herby20 on Feb 13, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

as much as people have tried to knock Crean for lack of results with tons of talent (which is not true)

Bruce Weber is indeed the poster child of said argument. Problem is I think he recruits in a best players available approach and not best players available that fit with what you already have.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Ironic...

If Purdue beats Illinois at their home, Weber will certainly be gone.

by Kodiak33 on Feb 13, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Always liked Bruce

considering he is a member of the Gene Keady coaching tree, but I’m not sure how his teams always under perform. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he does get canned. This is the first I have heard of it though. While Illinois isn’t quite Indiana, they are a basketball rich state… I don’t understand how he doesn’t get some better recruits.

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

he gets great recruits

he has 8 four star recruits on his current roster. Unfortunately they always seem to under perform. I don’t know if that is because they’re mentally head cases as in the Jereme Richardson scenario or if it is Weber’s coaching.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

That isn't an issue for OSU

Matta absolutely blows as a coach, but one hell of a recruiter (but then again, how can you not be a great recruiter when you are spending the money that OSU does… ZING).

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Thad Matta is a good coach when it comes to game prep

he struggles with in game management. He isn’t a bad coach, his strengths just aren’t as visible as his weaknesses.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I beg to differ

I could do what Matta does on game day and get the same result with that talent. Obviously I’m exaggerating, but you get my point. I live here bud… even some OSU fans think he blows as an actual coach, but they overlook that due to his talent doing the winning.

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't doubt you could do what Matta does on game day

he’s not very good in game. He’s pretty darn good at having those guys prepared to play the night before though. Rarely do you see an Ohio State team come out flat and unprepared to play.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Matta needs to learn how to utilize his bench.

There are some very good players that aren’t getting any time at all on the court. He has the talent to win a championship almost every year, but at the end of the year playing 35+ minutes per game catches up with his 6 man rotation.

by clarkaj24 on Feb 13, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

totally agree

but I can see where he pigeon holes himself into just going with the few guys he knows absolutely that he can trust. I did the same thing with my middle school ball team. Sometimes it is just hard to have faith that no matter how much you’ve prepared them, that someone can perform once in the ball game.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I definitely see what you are saying

But the difference is, you coach what you were given. Matta gets to go out and pick who he wants on his team. I just don’t understand how he can’t trust players who he has recruited and known for years. I’ve also never coached, so I’m sure it’s a lot harder than I think.

by clarkaj24 on Feb 13, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

let me fix that for you...

Matta needs to learn how to utilize his that he has a bench.

To your call once more we rally....

by BoilerPaulie on Feb 13, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Matta doesn't believe in a bench

Just get a Nation POTY candidate, a few more 4 star players and let them run around like a monkey F’ing a football… so far it has equaled wins for him. Matta coaching ability = 0

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Matta preparation is that it isn't hard

His game plan is remarkably simple give it to one guy and let him go make plays. As for evidence I present to you Sullinger, Jared and Turner, Evan. He basically told those guys go do what you do and forget the rest of the team.

I would like to see what what Matta does with even above average talent compared to NPOY talent every year, which is partly a result of the (lack of) system.

I literally have no idea why any one would want to go there unless the a Sullinger level player. You would sit on the bench for a couple of years only seeing garage time because the substitution rules apperantly haven’t found a corner in which to live. And even if you are lucky enough to see playing time odds are you are going to be a minor role player. Really what’s the up side for that player?

by MNBoiler on Feb 13, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

uhh.... Deshaun Thomas....

didn’t see the floor hardly last year. Has been a world beater this year. Amir Williams will likely do the same thing next year.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

This was not the case last year

Deibler, Lighty, and Buford were all big contributors around Sullinger.

That was aided by the fact that Sullinger is a good enough player to find the open man outside when he draws double-teams.

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by Danulas on Feb 13, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

We didn’t have a great game defensively

They played pretty well defensively, considering the fact that they just aren’t that good a defensive team. Northwestern had a hard time taking advantage of the constant switching because they don’t have great athletes.

by Ray Williams? on Feb 13, 2012 9:24 AM EST reply actions  

Just a thought here

but is there any player in the Big Ten country that is uglier than Jon Shurna? I like how hard he plays, nice kid, and obviously he is smart if he’s going to NW, but good god… I think he hit every branch of the ugly tree. He reminds me of a tall and very white hobbit.

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 9:54 AM EST reply actions  

I can say confidentally that I'm a Jon Shurna fan

and that he’ll never threaten my security in my sexuality.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Lol

He has the ugliest shot form I’ve ever seen though.

by Jackson Brunner on Feb 13, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he and Hulls are related...

I think Hulls looks like an extra from the Lord of the Rings!

by boilergal on Feb 13, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Difference between Shurna and Hulls

is that while both may be ugly hobbits, Hulls is a thug.

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet

Hulls plows more chicks than you can dream of (being at IU and all).

I still hate him, especially after last year’s game at Bloomington when he got pissy with someone from Purdue (I think Barlow?)

by Kodiak33 on Feb 13, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Being a basketball player at IU will get you chicks

but it doesn’t change the fact that he is ugly and a thug. Besides that, he can have those slutty IU chicks… it fits him.

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Hah

My gf is an IU chick. So I’m taking offense :D

I still don’t like Hulls.

by Kodiak33 on Feb 13, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Being a chic...

That thought makes me puke in my mouth… You have to have some standards!

by boilergal on Feb 13, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

So if you had to pick (him playing for IU not being a factor) would you go with Shurna or Hulls?

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

GAG!!

Due to the lack of acne, I guess if my life depended on it, I would go Hulls! Puke!

by boilergal on Feb 13, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I know what you mean...

Kind of like me picking between Jen Aniston and Jessica Biels. Puke!

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

thug… dude is one of the nicest guys I’ve met. Him and Dusty Kiel are the two guys that you will never hear anyone that knows him say anything bad about.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Good thing Keady stayed too long

Looking back we are lucky that Keady stayed a couple of years too long. Otherwise we probably would have had Bruce Weber as our coach instead of Matt

by BoilerRick on Feb 13, 2012 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

I will take Painter over Weber any day

but that said, we could have done a lot worse than Weber… just saying. With Morgan Burke as AD, anything is possible.

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

We would be damn good in practice!

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well if you say "Guards" in general

we aren’t far off now lol.

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Gives a whole new meaning

to “Basketball on Grass” (Tiller years).

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by purdue9939 on Feb 13, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't like your tone, young man.

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by Danulas on Feb 13, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

glad I could provide humor

I don’t even necessarily get the details of the joke. I just picked it up here during the football season and decided to run with it.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey AJ

What is the likelihood of Cody Zeller leaving school early?

by ItsALLgood on Feb 13, 2012 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

early as in this year? a shade above 0% but a shade below 1%

next year it becomes slightly more plausible. After his third year it becomes a 50/50 on whether he sticks around for a fourth year. Going on his family’s history in playing college ball, his family not hurting for money and knowing a bit about his family (grew up near by and playing against Luke and Tyler) I think he will stay at least 3 years and wouldn’t be surprised to see him exhaust his eligibility.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

This year?

He’s not ready. Don’t get me wrong, he’s pretty solid for a freshman, but he still has stuff to work on. I don’t think he’s as good this year as Sullinger was last year. That being said, he is more important to his team than Sullinger was as a freshman.

Then, once their next class comes in, I have a hard time seeing him taking off early unless they win big (NC or FF). With that kind of talent on the team, they will most likely feed off each others desire to win at the top level, and stick around until they do.

by AustinP0027 on Feb 13, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

a major factor into his and Yogi Ferrell's college decision is that they wanted to play together

can’t imagine them only playing one year and then Zeller bolting.

I agree he isn’t ready, but when has the NBA ever drafted on league readiness? Kid’s a beast and everyone knows it. Most teams would take a runner on him this year, hoping to have a world beater in 2.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

What? You mean Jereme Richmond didn't turn out?

Impossible. He was born to be an NBA player! What do these draft people know!?

by herby20 on Feb 13, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Jereme Richmond was told he wouldn't even be drafted if he left

Zeller would go in the first round. I get this post is sarcasm but I’m concerned others won’t.

That being said, good rebuttal and I laughed. Sorry to kill the joke.

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by JustAJ on Feb 13, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Jereme Richmond is the prime example

of what happens when a kid is told all his life that he is going to be an NBA player and buys into the hype and assumes talent alone will take him there. It’s sad too because he had the talent to eventually be an NBA player, but had no work ethic whatsoever.

by clarkaj24 on Feb 14, 2012 7:59 AM EST up reply actions  

And the even sadder part

is that he’s a microcosm of Illinois basketball under Bruce Weber.

To your call once more we rally....

by BoilerPaulie on Feb 14, 2012 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

this

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by JustAJ on Feb 14, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

recruits at NW game?

I saw an assistant coach showing around 2 young men at the game, any thoughts on who they might be?

by boilerdadx2 on Feb 14, 2012 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

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