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Hate week part 2.... Bob Knight


(I'm sure some people will comment based on the title of this article alone, but to those who read it, let me lead off by saying these are purely a bit of hate week fun. Though it really ruins the whole premise of a sarcastic "hate" article, after yesterdays reactions I felt the need to put a disclaimer on today's musings. I have a great deal of respect for Coach Knight, but this is hate week, so without further adieu, let's do some "hating" on the face of IU basketball.)

Ed. note: I am bumping this to the front page for quality haterade.

Well, I thought a long time about which IU figure to go after today, and finally I figured let's go big or go home. Mr. Knight, your career had many ups, some downs as well, but you really confuse me. Why are you so angry? Seriously, go to his wikipedia page. The first picture of the man, not even kidding, is this:

Does this look like the face of a celebrated coach with millions of dollars, not to mention countless players who've gone on to succeed with the lessons they learned under the aforementioned coach? Evidently it does, but it also bears a striking resemblance to another famous figure:


Star-divide

Ah, now I could go on and on comparing the similarities between these two figures, both have long histories of luring promising youths to the "dark side", both are famous for evil language (the emperor is far less profane however), and both love to give someone a good choking every now and then. I won't though, I don't want to go overly nerdy. Just know that I could have.

Speaking of "the choking incident", it was brought to my attention that some professional actors attempted to recreate Bob Knight's famous Neil Reed choke from 1997. Here's a photo:

Shocking stuff here. I would point out that poor Neil had no mat to land on. Neil was the first to speak up, but apparently this was a traditional punishment for asking for water during a practice.

But enough about his record of evil and violence, let's dive into the basketball itself. Sure, there's a few good years in there, but I think we all know the players did virtually everything themselves. Anyone could have sat on the bench and taken credit for those teams. One needs only look at the 1970-71 season at Army to see his real coaching capabilities. 11-13. A losing season. Way to suck. Then he came to IU, and after a few unmentionable seasons we come to the '76-'77 campaign. 16-11 overall, 5th place conference finish, and no post season. How impressively mediocre! Skip over a few more years and we find again what Knight can really do with a team that's not loaded. The 89-90 season sported an impressive 7-11 conference record, good for 7th place. Somehow the Hoosiers managed an invite to the NIT that season anyway. Maybe Knight showed up at the NIT Selection Committee meeting and threw some chairs. Maybe he choked someone. Maybe he shot lightning from his hands. I don't know, I wasn't there.

A few years later Knight's career at IU came to an end after a long string of student assaults. Still, the student body at large supported Knight, villifying those poor victims who fell prey to Knight's fits of rage. When Knight was banished from the land, the university president was an instant social pariah. Guess that's what you get for guaranteeing the safety of your students from a mad man.

So, with nowhere else to go, Knight stumbled into Lubbock, had another losing season in 05-06, and finally resigned during the 07-08 season, realizing that his career had no future. He finished his coaching career with an astonishing 371 losses. Given a typical 32 game season over most of his tenure, that's enough losses to fully cover 11 seasons. Terrible. Just terrible.

Almost forgot, he was the star of a reality show too. That's right, this evil emperor mixed with serial assaulter had his own TV show. I never watched it, but I bet it sucked. I know the winner got to be on the team, then went on to play all of 5 minutes or something like that in 2 years. What a wonderful experience! Congratulations on your big win! Have a seat on the bench for 2 years. Way to get a kid's hopes up and then crush them Knight.

I think that's enough ammo to get some hate rolling. I'm sure there's more out there, so let it fly. Facts need not stand in your way. Or just choose to expound on the parts that suit you. Works for me.

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And what rock have you been under, if you aren't?

"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"

by Boiler Bandsman on Jan 31, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Kids

There are mythical creatures called kids who don’t have knowledge of past events till exposed to it in some form or another.

by mastertim on Jan 31, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, I'm 20. I wasn't even alive then.

And the chair throw was STILL the first thing I knew about Bob Knight, 15 years ago.

"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"

by Boiler Bandsman on Jan 31, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure your upbringing is typical of all kids across America. Especially kids these days who weren’t even born when Bob Knight was a coach at IU.

by mastertim on Jan 31, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh

Were your parents killed in a horrible sarcasm accident or something?

by mastertim on Feb 1, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

The boy who cried asshole.

No one will believe you when a real asshole comes along and knocks the drink out of your hand.

by mastertim on Feb 1, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

pretty sure it’s standard, universal curriculum in the school of life

To your call once more we rally....

by BoilerPaulie on Jan 31, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone knows about the chair toss

but I didn’t realize that there were 6 free throws to follow. That’s pretty funny. I thought the broadcast was going to show a different stat about the shooter before every FT. They did before the first two and stopped. I wonder what the most in a row is.

by clarkaj24 on Jan 31, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the same thing

This is textbook bowling form. Solid balance, follow through is a little off the side, probably would’ve been a pulled shot on the lanes. Still, if the the chair weren’t in the foreground, you’d have a hard time convincing me he wasn’t bowling.

by AAMB Boiler on Jan 31, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought golf was more his sport

But I never realized what good form that throw was

by Beavis Beefcake on Jan 31, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the fact that he hated Purdue too

I don’t know how to post links to youtube, but there is some funny stuff on there. The locker room rant about how he is “sick and f’ing tired of losing to Purdue” and the old video of the Bob Knight show where he has a donkey with a Purdue hat on saying something about how our AD wouldn’t come on but he thought this was pretty close. I hated him because he coached at iu but he was entertaining.

by Scotty A on Jan 31, 2012 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

you just couldn't beat the Gene Keady / Bob Knight rivalry

Other programs might have “bigger” rivalries, but it’s hard to find two rival coaches more fierce than these two.

>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...

by sea.of.white on Jan 31, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

One more thing

Being hate week and all, can we please bring back the rap video those iu students made last year and make fun of it some more.

by Scotty A on Jan 31, 2012 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

Mizzou just made one

They ripped on IU’s rap and i was cracking up. Good addition to hate week in my mind haha

by kristinemarie42 on Jan 31, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh Mizzou...

Thinking you can compete with Kansas. Adorable.

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by Danulas on Jan 31, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Mizzou and KState fans make me laugh every year.

Before the season they all get excited and think this is our year! We’re winning the conference! Every year Kansas just sits back and laughs and quietly wins the conference. I’m thinking it might be the same this year. I’ve always respected Kansas’ program. I wish they would stop getting upset in the tourney by mid majors.

by clarkaj24 on Feb 1, 2012 7:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Not that I don’t love upsets, I just wish it were Duke or Kentucky getting upset.

by clarkaj24 on Feb 1, 2012 7:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I know

I live in KC now and they were making fun of the missouri one on the radio yesterday. I heard them mention the iu one so that is what made me think of it.

by Scotty A on Jan 31, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes sir. It was great. He had the kids on yesterday and every time they said it was a parody and a joke, he called them out as liars.

by Scotty A on Feb 1, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

ya I know, I was listening

by mrpink51089 on Feb 1, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

yes!

Are you bringing back the Purdue rap video as well or are most Purdue fans pretending that it doesn’t exist?

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 31, 2012 2:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

not the biggest fan of ours either

but it at least has solid production value

/trolling

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 31, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I think there is something we can all agree to hate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6mE9Au3CwM

I will now duck fruit thrown in my direction.

A futile crusade to prevent mass ignorance

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by BoilerTMill on Jan 31, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

yes that is indeed the most terrible thing every made.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 31, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

AHHHHH

I clicked on it and then when the title loaded I promptly closed it.

I do NOT want that stuck in my head for 3 more days.

To your call once more we rally....

by BoilerPaulie on Jan 31, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I sang it all day yesterday

it was terrible. In fact, I might head downtown and punch Mike Golic in the kidneys for that very reason.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Feb 1, 2012 7:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll help

A futile crusade to prevent mass ignorance

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by BoilerTMill on Feb 1, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

was there

he was in range, but couldn’t pull the trigger. I think watching him walk on those absolutely shot knees that he has got him by with the sympathy.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Feb 1, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

blasphemy!

No college rap videos are much good but I sincerely believe that This is Indiana is the most successful and well made out of the lot of them. Plus there are hot girls in it.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 31, 2012 3:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You mean the one with the fake blonde hair and the crow's beak for a nose?

Yeah, I’ll pass.

ps. I’d be more inclined to agree with you if it wasn’t hate week here.

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by Danulas on Jan 31, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

up to that p.s. part I was think, yeah bullshit, you know you’d be all over that.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 31, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

His F*&&$%g grouse hunting was done on my grandparent's farm

My boys better go to Purdue so they can appreciate the autographed BK items I have to pass along to them, because they sure as hell are not going to Bloomington Beauty College.

by 01Boiler on Jan 31, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I enjoy his candid and honest comments as an ESPN analyst

And he hates the IU administration WAY more than you may hate him. This all seems rather silly considering how far removed from IU he is now.

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Jan 31, 2012 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

True that he's removed from the program

But there’s no denying that he still is, and probably always will be (at least in my lifetime) the face of IU basketball. Not to mention the fact that a VAST majority of the IU fanbase still regard him as the patron saint of basketball.

by AAMB Boiler on Jan 31, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

rumor mill claims that the relationship is thawing

being as nearly no one is left from the administration that treated him like street trash. Still think pride will get in the way of any reconciliation for awhile though.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 31, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope it gets to good terms.

He deserves to at least have the court named after him or something.

by clarkaj24 on Jan 31, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Did Dickie V steer you down the wrong path??

Dick says this pratically every broadcast he ever does (IU game or not), how has someone not let him know the court is already named?

by boilergal on Jan 31, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

No Dick Vitale says

that instead of Ass Hall it should be named after Robert Montgomery Knight

"The goal remains the same"

by TimeToPlayHard on Jan 31, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't hate him.

I actually love the guy. I have some autographed Knight stuff in addition to my signed Purdue things for my Purdue room when the kids move out and I get to decorate it.

by GeorgiaBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a Gene Keady autographed hat

prized possession that I keep hidden out of view

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 31, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I keep telling people I am an 85% free throw shooter

I have four years of eligibility too.

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by BoilerTMill on Jan 31, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Todd Foster

Does anyone have a pic or link to a pic of Todd Foster stomping on the IU logo @Assembly Hall? I believe it was the 95-96 season?

by hoffdaddy83 on Jan 31, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

man this has me thinking about this weekend

the Michigan will be great and all but I am damn ready for Saturday.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 31, 2012 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

It's a trick, get an ax

by tiptonian on Jan 31, 2012 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

unneccesary.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 31, 2012 3:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

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by Danulas on Jan 31, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

not sure what this image is in response to

but if its the “rape” comment, Knight should have been fired over that. I don’t care much about the chair tossing or “bury me upside down” speech, etc. but you don’t even joke about that stuff when you’re an employee of an institution that by its very nature has high sexual assault rates.

by boiler_nuke on Jan 31, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Negative

I didn’t see the rape thing, the image was in response to the whole article. I assume 87 said it was unnecessary because it’s a big image. Which is true, and I would change if I could.

It's a trick, get an ax

by tiptonian on Jan 31, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Image size isn't as big of deal...

As long as you put a caption. Then it can be closed. Just FYI.

There are literally DOZENS of us!

by Tracer Bullet 82 on Jan 31, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Bingo

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Feb 1, 2012 7:20 AM EST up reply actions  

the rape comment

is an old joke from the 40’s. It was originally a joke about the weather in Texas, “If the weather is inevitable sit back and enjoy it.” That joke eventually evolved into a barroom joke of “Confucius say: If rape… etc.” He didn’t pull the comment out of his ass. Inappropriate but not completely out of nowhere.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 31, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

We should have planned ahead...

Done a week full of “Profiles in Douchebaggery” full of IU notables… We could have even put Luke Recker as #1, just so both sides would have something to agree about…

There are literally DOZENS of us!

by Tracer Bullet 82 on Jan 31, 2012 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

Well, doubt I can top this one

But I’ve got one in mind for tomorrow. Might need some suggestions if I’m gonna do a Thursday and a Friday though.

by AAMB Boiler on Jan 31, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Too Late

He already ducked and ran.

by BoilerchE on Jan 31, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

doesn't mean I'm not going to play the bad guy gansta

and shoot in the dark after him. He could be a mile away. I’m still going to feel better about myself if I get a couple rounds off in that direction.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Feb 1, 2012 7:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude...

We have a whole hate-filled month! 2-4 and 3-4

by Kodiak33 on Feb 1, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Jared Jeffries...

Just for inventing the “duck face”

There are literally DOZENS of us!

by Tracer Bullet 82 on Jan 31, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Further gripes.

“The 89-90 season sported an impressive 7-11 conference record, good for 7th place. Somehow the Hoosiers managed an invite to the NIT that season anyway.”

One season after we didn’t get there with an 8-10 record and we were rated as high as 25th.

Ignore the overall records (or how we lost so many games with bad late FT shooting)…IT’S US AGAINST THE WORLD.

by Beavis Beefcake on Jan 31, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

tommy got big.

We all saw it coming. If a person keeps a few extra pounds while they’re exercising strenuously for 4 hours a day then they’ll obviously put on a decent amount of poundage once they cease their workout regimen. Even so it’s a bit sad.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Feb 1, 2012 9:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Marty Simmons got big too and then lost most of it.

Anyone remember him? He left Indiana for Evansville with Jim Crews.

by GeorgiaBoiler on Feb 1, 2012 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

Thats the list

1976 — Upset over two turnovers in a Big Ten game, Knight grabs sophomore Jim Wisman by the jersey and jerks him into his seat.

1979 — Knight is charged and later convicted in absentia for hitting a policeman before practice at the Pan American Games in Puerto Rico.

1980 — Playfully fires a blank shot at a reporter. A week later, Knight and his wife take turns chiding an Assembly Hall crowd for not cheering enough during a game.

1981 — Uses his weekly program to show films of a “sucker punch” involving Isiah Thomas and Purdue’s Roosevelt Barnes, which he said proved Thomas’ innocence. Brought a donkey wearing a Purdue cap onto his TV show. In Philadelphia for the Final Four, Knight gets into a shoving match with an LSU fan, who says the coach stuffed him into a garbage can. Barnes played Linebacker for his 5th year at PURDUE and had a nice NFL career for the LIONS.

1983 — Knight criticizes Big Ten officiating by standing at midcourt and cursing at Big Ten Commissioner Wayne Duke, who is in the press box. Two days later, Knight assails the referees for the “worst officiating I have seen in 12 years.”

1985 — Tosses a chair across the court during a game against Purdue, prompting his ejection and a one-game suspension.

1986 — Receives technical foul for shouting at the officials during a game against Illinois, then kicks a megaphone and admonishes Indiana cheerleaders for disrupting a free-throw attempt by Steve Alford.

1987 — Bangs fist on the scorer’s table after being assessed a technical foul during a game against LSU. After tirade IU got 9 straight fouls called and won by 1. NCAA fines university $10,000, and Knight receives a reprimand. Refuses to let his team finish an exhibition game against the Soviet Union after he was ejected for arguing with a referee. He’s later reprimanded by the university.

1988 — In an NBC interview with Connie Chung, who asked how he handles stress, Knight says: “I think that if rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it.” He explains he was talking about something beyond one’s control, not the act of rape.

1991 — Asks not to be renominated to the Basketball Hall of Fame, calling the voters’ rejection of him in 1987 a “slap in the face.” Nevertheless, he was elected and inducted into the Hall. Publicly feuds with Illinois coach Lou Henson, who called him a “classic bully” who thrived on intimidation. Bars a female Associated Press reporter from the locker room, saying it was inappropriate for her to be there and also against university policy. All reporters subsequently were barred from the locker room.

1992 — Gives a mock whipping to Calbert Cheaney, a black player, during practice for the NCAA West Regional, offending several black leaders. Knight denies any racial connotations and notes the bullwhip was given to him by the players.

1993 — Is suspended for one game after a sideline tirade in a 101-82 victory over Notre Dame in which he screams at his player son, Pat, and kicks at him. When fans behind the Indiana bench boo, Knight turns and responds with an obscenity.

1994 — Head-butts Sherron Wilkerson while screaming at him on the bench but says it was unintentional. 1000% intentional! After the next game, the Hoosiers’ home finale against Wisconsin, Knight takes the public address microphone and recites a profane verse directed at his critics.

1995 — Is reprimanded and fined $30,000 by the NCAA for an outburst at a news conference at NCAA tournament. Upset that an NCAA media liaison erroneously says he would not attend the news conference, Knight lashes out at him.

1998 — Is fined $10,000 by the Big Ten for berating referee Ted Valentine, whose officiating Knight calls “the greatest travesty” he had seen in his coaching career. Knight receives three technical fouls and is ejected by Valentine during the second half of a loss to Illinois.

1999 — Is investigated for possible battery after allegedly choking a man at a restaurant. The man reportedly confronted Knight as he was leaving, contending he heard Knight make a racist remark. Prosecutor refuses to file charges. Assistant Ron Felling is fired after Knight allegedly throws him out of a chair after hearing him criticize the program.

2000 — Is investigated in March by university after former player Neil Reed says Knight choked him at a practice in 1997. In May, Knight’s suspended for three games, ordered to pay a $30,000 fine and barred from having physical contact with a player or university employee by IU President Myles Brand after an investigation found a pattern of inappropriate behavior. Is accused on Sept. 7 of grabbing a student by the arm, cursing and lecturing him about manners after the coach was addressed “Hey, Knight, what’s up?” Three days later, Knight’s fired for violating “zero-tolerance” policy and for what university President Myles Brand calls a “pattern of unacceptable behavior.”

2001 — General manager at the Compaq Center in Houston says Knight, now coach at Texas Tech, offered to fight him over remarks the coach made about the arena’s locker room — it “would have been very, very cramped with four midgets.”

2003 — Launches into a profanity-filled tirade after an ESPN reporter asks about his relationship with former player Steve Alford, who also was participating in the interview. Alford’s Iowa team was playing Texas Tech in Dallas. Knight later apologized.

2004 — Gets into a loud verbal spat with Texas Tech’s chancellor at an upscale Lubbock grocery store. Is reprimanded — but not suspended — by the university.

2006 — Approaches Michael Prince, using his hand to push his chin, apparently in an effort to get him to look up while talking to Knight during a timeout.

Lou Henson had it right……Bobby is a classic bully. If you are not 100% behind him…..kissing his ass……then you are against him and hated!

by PURDUE7 on Feb 1, 2012 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

I love me some RMK.

It’s kind of amazing reading all the crap he’s done when I know what a cordial and EXTREMELY charitable guy he can be. Definitely a bit bi-polar.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Feb 1, 2012 12:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LOL, I didn't know about several of these

This reads like a rap sheet. Amazing he hasn’t served any jail time.

by AAMB Boiler on Feb 1, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, 1 of these has mitigating circumstances

“1998 — Is fined $10,000 by the Big Ten for berating referee Ted Valentine, whose officiating Knight calls "the greatest travesty" he had seen in his coaching career. Knight receives three technical fouls and is ejected by Valentine during the second half of a loss to Illinois.”

How’d Valentine do reffing our game this weekend again?

by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 1, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

He's wearing argyle in that picture.

I’ve seen him wearing argyle before.

I’ve always hated argyle, just because.

Thumbs way down.

by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 1, 2012 6:12 PM EST reply actions  

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