I'm diggin it
by jbennett28 on Jan 28, 2012 7:30 PM EST
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PrintThe starting 5 we had out there worked very well. I dont know if it was just because of the matchups we had for this game, but i'd say keep with it. Something new and we generated very good shots. why not stick with it? TJ and Byrd were huge! of course rebounding will be a problem, but thats when lawson and TC come off the bench. what does everyone think about the matchups we have on IU? Who is on Zeller and Oladipo?
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Does anyone know if we ever wom before losing by 15 boards and is 18 an all time low for Painter.
TC did a freat job on Meyers Leonard, that gives me some hope against Zeller. We’ve seen him be taken out of games this year not only by defenses but by his own guards not feeing him the ball.
On our lineup tonight, don’t expect to see that again. Northwestern presents some very specific matchup problems due to the style of offense they run. We are lucky to have a guy like Byrd that can guard Shurna like he did and still make a difference on offense.
by BoilerGOZ on Jan 28, 2012 8:34 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
He was good on Sully last year too.
He can bang on defense when needed.
by Boiler_Ditsor on Jan 28, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
He struggles more with mobile bigs than with Shaq-style pure posts like Leonard and Sully.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Jan 29, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
He has an advantage of playing against Zeller in high school
They played each other in the 2010 semi-state
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washington (zeller's team) won
both guys had 14 points.
travis is going to have to play zeller like he played meyers leonard. be physical, front him and deny entry passes to the post.
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Boiler up!
by therailroadtie on Jan 28, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
and hope Crean continues to be dumb and not give Zeller the ball
I have never seen a team fail to exploit weaknesses like Crean.
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by BoilerTMill on Jan 28, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
yep Crean's fault
not the players that refuse (until recently) to make that pass and for Zeller not to battle more to get open when being fronted. All on Crean. The man who runs scrimmages in practice where the points don’t count if Cody doesn’t touch the ball on the possession.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
Maybe it's what he should be yelling about
And if he already is, he might try another tack.
It sounds like Crean has some plans for drilling the right thing to do into his players’ heads, but if players aren’t quite making that pass yet, some blame will need to fall on him for recruiting players who are less than the sum of the whole. I mean, I assume he recruited them because he felt he could learn to fit them into the team.
That said, if as you mentioned they’re doing a better job, then he pieces all fit together, watch out…I think we Purdue fans are worried.
by Beavis Beefcake on Jan 30, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Its mostly players slightly TC's
A lot of has to do with most the players not having a caliber big man like CZ I mean they weren’t exactly trying to pound it down to Pritch the last couple of years. On the other hand at what point does TC have enough and put someone in there that doesn’t get a lot of run and say hey catch the ball entry pass to CZ. We don’t know what happens in practice he could be harpin on it everyday in practice in which case ignoring CZ in games should have repercussions.
honestly I think it is just the limited abilities of the point guards that make it so bad
Hulls can beat you with a first step or two to create space but will rarely blow by a guy. Jones has that capability but does so with his head down, Oladipo the same way. When guys are fronting CZ, we don’t seem to have the guns to keep them honest yet.
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Missed the starting lineups
But we’re very lucky Mirkovic wasn’t ready to go. From what I see now, I think it was a good choice given the situation, but vs a team with a serious big—we’ll get gouged inside.
by Beavis Beefcake on Jan 28, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions
We need to continue more of a focus on the transition game.
Every time we ran down the court looking to score right away it generally worked. As much has some people dislike Dakich, he is right: Our half -ourt offense is not good. We don’t have Moore and JJ who were the primary players that made the offense work. Our transition game is much better than our half-court.
Been saying this for weeks.
i don’t know why we don’t push when we have the chance.
by Boiler_Ditsor on Jan 28, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Nwestern
Did a good job of forcing Lewjack to work on every possession as i am sure the scouting report on him is that he can be deadly when healthy but is currently hobbled by back and foot issues…hopefully he gets well rested so we can rum all over IU next weekend. Hopefully TC has a career changing game as well.
by grebek on Jan 28, 2012 9:07 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
What was starting five?
I missed the tipoff
by Scurts on Jan 28, 2012 8:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Rob, Byrd, TJ, Ryno, LewJack
I am not digging it. It only works today b/c NW has no inside presence whatsoever. I don’t wanna put Robbie on Zeller. Rather, I want to see TC bumping Zeller with his big butt like he did to that white 7-footer from Illinois. I like Byrd in the starting lineup and TJ to come off the bench.
Barlow
Any update on him? Last time he came off the bench I’ve read that it was b/c he was sick. Was he still sick? Is it b/c of the match-up or is it a permanent change? In any case, I just hope there isn’t any issues with GDB. We need him driving to the hoops and defend with his long arms to have any chance of success in March.
He seemed happy and personable with fans after the game FWIW
I suspect it was probably just sickness. Now you mention it, I did see him run off with 5 minutes left or so. I figured he might not come back due to foul trouble anyway.
by Beavis Beefcake on Jan 28, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
That's correct
The ESPN replay shows he was guarding Sobolewski and that cost NU a few seconds before Shurna’s desperation heave.
So that is a positive. I had assumed he was out for the game and was a bit worried. Gotta pay more attention next time.
by Beavis Beefcake on Jan 28, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
We can't have TC not start against teams with a center
They didn’t have one yesterday so that gave us an extra option to play with. TC has made a ton of progress this year, and believe me I was one of the people who was saying he lacked the toughness to play in the big ten. I think he’s earned his starting spot and we need him on defense.
Yeah, he seems to have one hustle play a game
We need that at the least, and I think he knows that and works for it. I mean, not just to do the bare minimum. He got beat by a backdoor cut or two but that seems to happen for everyone vs NU, as I think I read in an interview before the game with Robbie.
by Beavis Beefcake on Jan 29, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
TC has to
bust it back on D against Zeller IU gets a lot of easy points just by Zeller beating the defense down the court.
that's one if the things I really like about Tacos
if you watch, he really does bust his ass to get back down the court on defense. Sometimes to a fault though, since he sometimes misses out on some of the rebounds that rattle around a bit. if it doesn’t come right at him, he’s usually booking back to the other end.
BTFU!
by BoilerAdam on Jan 29, 2012 9:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Agreed.
I think if TC keeps up the way he has been playing and busting his but he won’t shut CZ down but he doesn’t have to he just has to keep him from going off. Boilers just have to get out on the shooters something they seem to struggle with at times, can’t have Roth coming off the bench and hitting 4-5 three’s like we have allowed other no name guys to do.
Zeller
Isn’t the problem.
For some reason, we’ve struggled defending the 3 and that’s where a ton of IU’s offense comes from.
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I think where Zeller will hurt us most, as an above poster hinted, is Zeller running the court in transition. He is very athletic for a big and runs the court well. Whoever is on him will have to bust it every time down.
that' s something Carroll seems to do well
is get down the court. Don’t think he’s quick enough to keep up with Zeller, but he does it better than some of the bigs that were forced to deal with him so far this season.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
Carroll hustles when he's on the court
It just doesn’t seem to me like he has a very high basketball IQ. And I hate that term, but sometimes he just seems like he doesn’t quite get it. Hopefully he can prove me wrong.
basketball IQ is an overused term
but when it actually applies it means a ton. Cody Zeller has a high basketball IQ, Myers Leonard does not. You can see the difference in each other’s game in that sense.
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by JustAJ on Jan 30, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Carrol's problem is more lack of aggressiveness.
He’s just so damn timid sometimes on the court. If he’d just get mean, he has enough tools to be effective. Personally, I think that’s why he does better against bangers: he gets fed up with being beaten on and goes after the guy, as opposed to having to chase a mobile big all over the court.
And I think Leonard has a decent IQ, he’s just being horribly misused in Weber’s offense, if you want to call it that. The guys around him, on the other hand, especially his guards, don’t.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Jan 30, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
not any more than average
Indiana scores 26.1% of their points via the three pointer which is below average and 202nd in the nation. 51.5% come via the 2 point FG, nearly exactly average. 22.4% comes through free throws which is two percentage points greater than the national average.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
while that's true
IU’s ability to shoot the three is still a big concern. first of all, because we have shown a weakness in our ability to close out an 3-pt shooters, but secondly, because IU has some guys who can flat out shoot it. IU has four guys who have hit at least 10 3-ptrs so far, and all of them are hitting at least 44% of their 3s:
Watford: 46.7%
Hulls: 48.4%
Sheehey: 44.4%
Roth: 57.4%
As compared to Purdue, who also has four guys who have made at least 10 3-ptrs, but our best three point shooter is only connection on slightly less than 42% of his shots:
Hummel: 35%
Smith: 41.8%
T. Johnson: 30.6%
Byrd: 39.7%
so while IU may not be as reliant on the 3 as some have suggested, with your three point shooters you have the tools to exploit one of our defensive weaknesses in a major way.
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Boiler up!
by therailroadtie on Jan 30, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
agreed if that was the point being made
IU is very capable but not overly reliant on the perimeter shot. However, if they are hitting from long the chances of them losing are slim. Similar to Purdue in that aspect. If Purdue is pouring it in from three, then their defense and ability to take care of the ball is more than enough to survive. If IU is pouring it in from three, their defense and rebounding usually hold up well.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
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