Shot Down At Mackey

That is the primary reason we have lost some of these games and what was the one issue we had no answer for going into this off-season. Carrol has improved, but he is no JJ. I don’t even think he is half of what JJ was last year.

Maybe you can put it on Painter, or maybe on the players, or on recruiting, or whatever. But that is the one area that this team simply can’t fix this year. We knew this was going to be a down year, and I actually think it is somewhat of a good sign that we have such high expectations of the basketball program now,

I like tmill that you are optimistic but these games at home need 2 be wins. Honestly are you that confident that we can win games on the road in the big ten. Our easiest games on the road are over. The one we have a shot at is northwestern. Then you ask yourself look at msu…they lost there. I’m not giving up cause anything can happen but we live and die on the three and frankly were not that good at that. Were not 2005 Illinois that shot almost 50 threes against zona in the elite eight and one. We need 2 get in the paint and I only believe in lewjack doing that consistently. I’ll never stop believing but games at home need 2 be wins.

We settle for 3’s is look how hard they gotta work on offensive end. The only one can get his own shot is lewjack and its a driving layup. Our 5 is only a rebounder and hummel and smith sit outside waiting to get a pass.

i don’t think anybody was saying that Painter couldn’t recruit or was overpaid when we went to the Sweet 16 after Hummel got injured two years ago or when we were competing for Big Ten titles year in and year out. I think in some ways he’s a victim of 1.) his own success as this year looks very bad compared to recent years and 2.) Hummel’s unfortunate injuries because we never had a chance to really see what could have happened and how that could have impacted recruiting. He has good recruiting classes coming in, so there’s still a lot of reasons to be excited for Purdue basketball in the future and there would only be a few coaches I can think of that I would rather have than Painter (and they’re not leaving their current jobs for Purdue as much as I would dream of it).

too upset/angry. I don’t know where some of you get your optimism, but I’m lacking some right now. We had one of the easiest opening schedules in the big ten and were only .500. Time for this team, coach included, to really, really bear down and get tough.

We played a good game and lost to a better team with more talent. 7th place in the Big Ten will get in to the Big Dance and 8th is a maybe.

To add common thread of get behind 10 to 15 pts at home in first 10 minutes

This is one of the deepest conferences from top to bottom that there has been in a long while. Look at the teams that have had 2 and 3 game losing streaks only to put it together and go on 2 or 3 game winning streaks. This current team certainly as its weaknesses but every team has weaknesess. It is the team that can exploit the other team’s weakness that wins. We are going to win some games and I would bet we will go on our own 2 or 3 game winning streak.

I want some abuse on these thoughts 1.)Keady defense—weak post D and can’t cover three. 2.) Do we miss Lusk OR new coaches not integrated yet. 3.) Rob’s help D leaves shooters open: Mich, MSU and PSU. 4.)New Mackey is not a home court advantage yet. 5.) Our 5’s need to play goaly down at the new arch. Please knowledgeable BB people correct my uninformed observations.

Except for the dumbass recliner seats that are empty. This team has to give them something get excited about and wisconsin and michigan we are behind 10 in fist 10 minutes

Thanks to the better informed and those that played more than pick-up.

Purdue has Iowa, Minn, and Wisc working for us. Those teams can do some real winning among the othe BIG teams. The final BIG rankings will be very intteresting.

We will win 80% at home, 50% on the road and sneak into NCAA, that’s it for this year

who they said we were. Bottom line. The objective analysis is usually the accurate one.

this is not the game that you can pin on recruiting and I don’t think any one game or stretch of games can be case in point wrap it up and throw away the key. Recruiting is a war not a battle and we are losing the war right now.

and then the B10 tourny. We can DEFINITELY still get in. Win the next three, no ones worrying. We just have to try and avoid the cold stretches. That’s what killed us tonight.

and I don’t think a freshman transferring 4 years ago has anything to do with the current struggles of the team

But cmon everyone knew this was going to be a transition year, you don’t lose 2 NBA players and keep on trucking unless you’re a top 10 program and objectively we aren’t. There is a bit of a gap between the baby boiler team and whatever is coming next but these guys are doing their best to hold it together and grind things out.

This year we knew that we were going to live and die by jump shooting which after having 2 NBA forwards in a row is a tough pill to swallow, especially now that it’s gone cold the past few. Hopefully it comes back at an opportune time and we can get in and make some unexpected noise in the tourney.

Tonight was a tough loss but don’t forget we had 2 IDEAL looks from 3 to take a 2 point lead with both ryne and robbie getting shots that they are capable of knocking down. They didn’t fall, you know the rest; such is life in the big ten this year, nothing is easy especially without a true post.

I’ve learned that life gets a lot better when you don’t dwell on the negative, and search for the positive, no matter how small the positives are.

My brief evaluation of the 2011/12 Boilers are that we are a jump shooting team that can play good D in spurts. That’s our identity this year. Now that we are 21 games into this season, no matter how hard the coaches try they are not going to change that team identity.

That being said, we’re only going to have a chance to win games when we shoot open jumpers and hit them. Reference our two best W’s this year – home vs. Illinois and @ Minnesota. Both games we were hotter than the sun for a good portion of the game.

We’re clearly in a cold shooting stretch right now (I haven’t scoured the stats, but that’s my feeling from watching the games). My hope is that they can shoot themselves out of the slump and play better in February. IMO, if you’re a jump shooting team, there’s going to be a cold stretch during the season at some point, and I’d rather have that cold shooting stretch come in January than in February or worse, in March.

Here’s to our Boilers heating up and turning this train around!!

… so if this has been mentioned/argued/debated already, let me throw something out for thought:

Is the NIT really so bad for this team? Let’s face it, we’ve lost a number of games we should have won and it frustrates all of us. Given the current resume, and assuming the current trend continues (.500 finish in B1G play), I think the NIT may be a better place for this team to actually have a decent post season run. If we make the NCAA Tournament, do you really expect this team to be able to put together a run such that we would make it out of the first weekend? Wishful thinking for sure, but honestly unlikely in my opinion.

However, an NIT bid puts us in a position to make a little post season noise and possibly have a longer run than the NCAA’s would this year as a building block for next year.

Don’t get me wrong, I would still welcome an NCAA bid; but with the team playing as it is now, I’m not sure it would necessarily be the best thing for us. I hope the team can pull it together and justifiably make an NCAA bid and run; I just don’t see this team as worthy of that at this point.

If this point has been made already – I apologize as I just felt like commenting first before reading through them all.

Don’t miss free throws and struggle on defense so that is a tired excuse. I think it is great that Hummel gets one last go ‘round but I think some of the other guys thought they could just contribute on the fringe because the savior was back. He’s clearly still hobbled and it is unfair that he feels the need to be THE guy. Hopefully these guys stop feeling sorry for themselves and play a tough game for a full 40 minutes soon. Believe it or not, some middling programs would love to trade places with Purdue. Trust me, I’m not trying to lower expectations but this team is not as good as the previous years and will continue to lose games we usually win unless they get it together.

Six seasons, went to NCAA once, NIT twice (not even make it past the quarterfinals), and no post season play three times. Not saying we should accept mediocrity, not when we paid a coach $2.3M, but just to put things in a little perspective. Things rarely are as good as they seem or as bad as they seem.

It’s a down year. These happen. I agree we’re probably an NIT team but what are ya gonna do? I’m really tired of all the people who seem to be abandoning ship on Painter. Give me a break! 9 months ago, we were all on our knees begging him to come back and now you want to run him out?

All the same, no excuse for a starting guard to shoot 34% FT’s (glances at TJ) and there have been far too many scoring droughts for looooooong periods of time this year. Last night, I heard Tirico say we didn’t get a bucket in the final 4+ minutes…at that time you need FT’s to carry you. You fix that drought and the ones vs Butler and XU alone and we’re a tourney team.

It may not happen this year, but Purdue basketball will be back. BOILER UP

In the ten remaining games, we have two “sure” wins (Neb., PSU) and two “sure” losses (at OSU, at IU). The remaining six games (three each at home and away) are likely to go 2-4, 3-3 or 4-2. In all likelihood, this will include one unexpected road win (such as at IL or at MI) and one frustrating home loss (such as NW or MSU). In spite of LewJack, Robbie, Ryno and DJ, the team plays like a team of freshmen and sophomores; an inconsistent mix of incredibly good mixed with excretably bad (sometimes, such as Xavier, in the same game). End result: 8-10 and first round loss in B1G tourney probably leads to a 4 or 5 seed in the NIT; most likely scenario of 9-9 and loss in quarters (second round) of B1G tourney puts the Boilers SQUARELY on the bubble and may create sleepless nights between the B1G tourney and Selection Sunday; best case of 10-8 and B1G championship puts the Boilers in the NCAA at about a 6 or 7 seed. Right now, I am thinking that going to NIT and not making round of eight is somewhat disastrous; in the NCAA, making it to the first weekend (Sat/Sun) would be happy time and Sweet 16 is the absolute upper range of my hopes.

We are in troubles.

At least we are one game closer to Football season…ugh

Even though this year has been down compared to the past, the future is very bright for Purdue. When you go from having two stars almost running your whole offense to a team where there isnt really a true scorer you wont be as productive on offense. Since everything ran threw Moore and JJ it hurt people like TJ, Barlow, and Smith because they got most of their scoring from JJ and Moore so them trying to create their own shot is hard cause they arent used to that. Even though they have had games where they played to their best ability. Also look at the recruiting classes that are coming in 2012 we have scorers and with Ronnie Johnson coming I think maybe he can help his brother out, Hammons will actually give us a low post presence. 2013 We have 2 of the 3 best recruits out of Indiana according to ESPN and in 2014 it looks like Painter is going to try hard to get good recruits. And this year people have to see that we dont have the players that can create their own shot whenever they want. And people who keep on saying that we should of never gave Painter that contract are wrong for many reasons.

1. Who would of we have gotten that is as good of coach as he is.
2. We have to look in the future with the 7 recruits coming in we will be deeper than we have and have more talent.
3. If Painter left we would of never got Hammons and most likely had some recruits decommit.
4. We need more players that fit into Painter system of defense.
I know its hard to see Purdue play like this but just get over it that we wont be like some of the teams in the past and look to the future cause it looks very bright at the end of the tunnel.