The Real Game Begins: Purdue Heads To East Lansing
All this chaos in the Big Ten has been fun to watch and it has erased our mistakes, but now is when the real fun begins. While a Big ten title is unlikely for our Boilermakers, we're one of five teams tied for first place in the loss column with only two defeats. The Penn State loss looks a little better now that State College has inexplicably become a fortress that only Tom Crean can figure out (which should tell you how crazy this Big Ten is).
The fact everyone has at least two losses means we still control our own destiny for the title despite two stumbles that really shouldn't have happened. Still, everyone else has their own WTF loss so far (Illinois and Purdue at PSU, MSU at NW, OSU at Indiana, Michigan at Iowa), so we're all pretty even. Our next five games are a critical stretch that will decide if we're in this for the long haul or if we'll simply fight for an NCAA tournament berth.
I like that we begin this stretch at Michigan State because we get one of the toughest games out of the way early. If we win it, we get a major boost of confidence that we can go 4-1 or 5-0. We've won two in a row up there in pretty convincing fashion, but that means very little since we did it with JJ and E'Twaun. The Spartans have looked vulnerable of late with two straight losses after winning 15 in a row, so the potential for a shocker is there.
2010-11 Record: 19-15, 9-9 Big Ten
2011-12 Record: 15-4, 4-2 Big Ten
Postseason Result: Lost 78-76 to UCLA in NCAA First Round
Blog Representation: The Only Colors, The Enlightened Spartan
Series with Purdue: Purdue leads 65-46
Last Purdue win: 2/27/2011 at Michigan State 67-47
Last Michigan State win: 3/11/11 in Big Ten Tournament 74-56
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Last year's Michigan State series was a little odd. In a span of less than two weeks we went from a dominant win on their home floor to a punchless loss in the Big Ten Tournament as everything began to fall apart. Everyone expected a lot more from MSU last season with them coming off of two straight Final Fours and having good senior leadership, but something was off all year.
This year's Michigan State team has looked really good at times, but their recent two-game losing streak has shown some vulnerabilities. They are spotless at home so far, but they survived overtime at Wisconsin, lost a close one at Michigan, and got picked apart in giving up 81 points to Northwestern.
On our end we have to play team-oriented basketball that has been the hallmark of our excellent stretches of play. Terone Johnson, Kelsey Barlow, and Lewis Jackson must attack the basket. If Ryne Smith gets open looks he has to knock them down. LewJack is especially a key, as he was dominant in the two wins over them last year.
One thing that stood out in the win over Iowa was our aggressiveness on the glass, especially by Travis Carroll. Michigan State has long dominated us on the glass because of their size, but we've still managed to win three of the last five games against them including the last two in East Lansing. If we can keep it fairly even on the boards it should go a long way toward winning.
That's easier said than done when Draymond Green is an automatic 15 and 10 every night. I'm not sure if Robbie Hummel or Carroll will draw that assignment defensively, but we cannot make things easy on him. This could be a game where we go bigger at times with Sandi Marcius or Jacob Lawson in with Hummel and Carroll. Adreian Payne id effective in the paint too at 6.7 ppg and 4.7 rpg. Branden Dawson (a.k.a., the one that got away) is averaging nearly eight points per game too. They can field a big lineup with Derrick Nix, Payne, and Green down low.
Keith Appling is the only other player in double figures with Green at 12.7 ppg. He and Green also dish out nearly four assists per game. This team likes to share the basketball. Brandon Wood, a fellow Kokomo Wildkat whom we have seen before with Valparaiso., is having a good one-year-only NBA audition at 9.7 points per game. He is the type of player that can heat it up and go for 30 any night, but I have been impressed with his growth. At Kokomo, he was a score first, second, and third player. Over the course of his college career he has grown into a solid all-around player.
Derrick Nix, Travis Trice, and Austin Thornton round out the main rotation. In reality, this is a team that is very similar to us in a lot of respects. Green is their Robbie Hummel-type power forward that can also shoot the three. Appling is a bigger LewJack with more of a scoring edge. Wood is kind of close to D.J. Byrd in terms of being a versatile player that fits very well in the offense. Dawson is a bit like Barlow in that he can get to the rim and also rebound and handle the ball. Trice is like Ryno in that 51 of his 87 FG attempts are threes. Nix is a combination of Carroll, Marcius, and Lawson if we could put the best attributes of those three players together in one guy.
Those similarities give me some confidence. Green is going to do his thing, so I think the key is defending Appling and Wood so they don't get going from long range. We're going to have to shoot the ball well, rebound, and keep attacking. Michigan State is 10th nationally in rebounding at 40 per game, so keeping them off the glass has to be a priority. They're also 16th nationally in assists per game at 16.7, so we have to switch well on defense and avoid living shooters open.
I'm not going to lie: this is going to be a difficult game to win, but it is not impossible. Northwestern got to the line 29 times and hit 21 of them, so attacking can pay off. It only pays off if we keep hitting our free throws, however. That area took a surprising step forward against Iowa, so maybe we're coming out of that funk.
The bottom line is that we still have a chance in this Big Ten race. We are certainly capable of winning this game, but we have to be the good Purdue that has been dominant for stretches of play against Illinois, Xavier, Minnesota, etc, and avoid being the bad Purdue that had inexplicable stretches of awful play that cost us in four of our five losses. It really is as simple as attacking the basket, being aggressive on the glass, and hitting our free throws. When we do that, we win. When our offense resorts to the "hot lava offense" of passing the ball around the perimeter without attacking, we lose. It is that simple.
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I am very intrigued by the matchup between Lewjack and Appling. Lewjack must keep his speed contained and not allow him to run out in transition all night like traditional MSU pg’s like to do.
Our guards MUST crash the boards to help our bigs. They’ll have their hands full keeping out Green and Nix, we can’t afford their guards picking up junk boards or it will be a long day.
That said, on offense I’d really like to see us feed Carrol at least 3-5 times in the post (close your mouths!). He has earned it with his play the last few games, and if he can get Green or Nix in some foul trouble early that will really open up some lanes for our guards to go to the hole or kick it out to Ryno and Hummel for open 3’s. Just my two cents.
by BoilerGOZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:19 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
are you not mentioning IU's wtf loses
because you are trying to stay away from mentioning them, were only talking about teams with 2 loses, or you expected them to lose to Minnesota and Nebraska?
I am limiting it to the 2 loss teams as contenders now
At 3-4, they aren’t currently a contender for the Big Ten title.
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by BoilerTMill on Jan 20, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Three keys to winning
1. Don’t get murdered on the board. At least be respectable to give us a fighting chance.
2. Hit FTs!!!!! This is the kind of game we can’t afford missing out on large amount of FREE throws.
3. TOs. This is the area where we have the advantage. In terms of getting extra possession, MSU will do it on the glass, so we have to do it on the TO column.
Above all, play hard defense, hustle, win the 50-50 ball battle (coz we’ll likely lose all the 50-50 calls when we are on the road). Matty knows how to play MSU. I’ll be super thrilled if we manage to pull off an upset.
+1 on everything
Especially the TO’s. We will likely get out rebounded regardless but if we can keep it close and cause lots of TO’s then it will cancel that out.
Also we just have to make shots. We have been mostlly playing with more heart since the PSU game but we just have to put the ball in the basket.
we also need Hummel to find his touch again
It will be a rough game if get another 4-14 type performance.
by TheBox on Jan 20, 2012 11:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
break out game tomorrow
Would be awesome!
by Bloomington.Boiler on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
+1 We're due for some incredible shooing.
by BoilerGOZ on Jan 20, 2012 11:34 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I remember the close loss @MSU in '08
Was the only loss of the first 13 or so games for the Baby Boilers.
A strong performance this weekend goes a long way. Not that you play to almost-win, but I think this team coming up just short against a really good team may provide future motivation that a loss against a weaker team might not.
by Beavis Beefcake on Jan 20, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Thoughts
I personally have been very impressed with how Kelsey Barlow has been playing of late. He has played some pretty decent TEAM basketball, hasn’t showed off, and has been respectable from the charity stripe (which not many of our Boilers can say right now). If he keeps playing the way he has been with good quality minutes, I think it will help tremendously.
As for Lewis Jackson, I love his play and effort (don’t get me wrong), but he has to be to blame (partly) for his tumbles and back issues. I know many of you will crucify me, but how do you fall to the ground on EVERY SINGLE DRIVE to the hoop? I know he often gets raped on his way there, but not every single time. Don’t take this out of context, please, but LewJack needs to work on landing on his feet some. Love his hustle and determination though!
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+1 on Barlow
And I completely agree about Lewjack. I made this point as well a few games back. Hopefully the coaches are noticing this as well and instructing him to be more careful. I think he is partly trying to get the foul called but refs just aren’t buying it.
by BoilerGOZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:36 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think part of it
is a show to draw fouls….
He does get fouled a decent amount… (not often enough)
by PurdueEnginerd on Jan 20, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
There has to be a fine line
between trying to draw fouls (putting on a show or not) and committing season suicide by harming your body to the point that we lose our PG.
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I see where you are coming form on LewJack.
I noticed that awhile back, but I also noticed he doesn’t really land on his back most the time. Its normally just landing on his feet and he just kind of falls on his butt and slides himself backwards. A lot of that has to do with how he approaches the basket…he can’t go straight up like most players. His height makes it so he has to essentially kill all momentum gained from jumping, and makes the landing much more awkward. To get his underneath layup to work, he has to bend his knees to change the momentum ( how he kinda stalls out midair to fool the defender) , and landing with your knees bent usually results in landing on your toosh. I know that sounds stupid, but try to go underneath someone to the basket, and you’ll notice its a lot harder to land on your feet perfectly like that.
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Izzo was genius last year
when he started to foul us with alot of time left in the game. They got close, but our FTs were good enough to hold onto the lead. This year… he’ll do the same if we have a lead (or maybe if we’re close). I hope Matty had them shooting FTs alllll week.
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Doubt he'd foul us if it's a close game.
We’re awful at FTs, but not that awful.
by Bloomington.Boiler on Jan 20, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
We're worse than last year
He did it then, why not this year? Hopefully CMP will get TJ out of the lineup if this happens.
by BoilerGOZ on Jan 20, 2012 11:32 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don't think he'll be TOO extreme about it.
If you saw the Hack-a-Howard game in the NBA a couple weeks ago, the same theory still holds. Howard, a notedly awful FT shooter, was intentionally sent to the line 39 times by Golden State.
And it was the most efficient offense in NBA history. Mass fouling even a bad FT shooter simply does not work over any length of time. Yes, the clock-stopping part makes it useful lategame, but over more than a couple minutes at most it just doesn’t work.
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"9:30"
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by Boiler Bandsman on Jan 20, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
i'd take tj over lawson in a heart beat at the foul line
TJ over the last several weeks has improved and has a better opportunity at breaking the press. I think it would be dumb to bench a good defensive player/ ball handler in the clutch.
If it's a close game, or as long as they are behind late in 2nd half
I am pretty sure Izzo will make us earn it at the line. Book it.
He did that even to Duke. MSU will fight till the end and will do whatever it takes. In a way, I kinda respect that attitude. If we get a W, we’ll have to earn it at the line. Mark my words.
Anything i suppose could happen,
but I’d be more worried about this game being a blowout. MSU hasn’t lost at home by less than 13 pts this season. In their 2 conference games they beat IU by 15 and Iowa by 34.
There is zero expectation to win this game, so maybe Purdue can come out relaxed and play well. But I’m not counting on it.
I don't want us relaxed
We lose our edge and our offense slows way down when we have any reason to believe we can relax. I want us to play as though we are always in the middle 20 minutes of the game (last 10 of first half, first 10 of second half). From what I recall, none of our bad 5-10 minute stretches have taken place during that time, for whatever reason.
by BoilerGOZ on Jan 20, 2012 1:27 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Agreed.
I think we definitely play away games to our opponents energy level i.e. @Penn State with no energy in the crowd
by Bloomington.Boiler on Jan 20, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
We need to come out like we did at Xavier, and close out like we were against Wisconsin
Two negatives make one positive, right?
Tough matchup
This is not a good matchup for Purdue.
Hummel will have to play a lot of minutes and guard Green which could take a lot of engery out of him for the offensive end. Watching Carrol against Nix and Payne might be similar to the shower scene in Shawshank Redemption. 10 minutes is the over/under minutes for Lawson before he fouls out. Once Carrol gets violated and Lawson gets his 2 quick fouls, Marcius will come storming off the bench thinking it’s prison rules and pick up a few quick fouls himself. Either that or Marcuis will step up and have his 2nd decent game of the year.
Purdue has to come out shooting the lights out and create turnovers to win.
MI St. frustrated
Clearly they are frustrated after blowing the last couple of games during a long win streak. But I’m starting to believe their frustration is showing up on the court and hurting their ability to play as a team. The three bigs, Payne, Nix, and Green don’t control their emotions very well during the game. Green pouts, and Payne and Nix both visibly get down on themselves. I also see Green get pissed at the others when they make mistakes, which is all good and well for a leader of the team, but then he turns around and makes similar mistakes only to pout about the outcome. I don’t know how we do it, but we need to get into their heads from the very beginning. If we can get Green pouting early, and Payne and Nix to look like puppies with their tails between their legs, it will give us a major upper hand.
TMill, how come there is no getting behind the enemy line this time?
I’d be curious what the MSU folks think about this game. Do they see it as an easy win at home as a way to release the frustration over the last two games, or do they see legit concern for dropping three in a row?
I usually only do those when they reach out to me
which does happen often.
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I'm a rabid Spartan fan
First of all, good preview.
I don’t know much about this season’s Purdue squad, haven’t been able to see many of your team on TV (and in the recent past, all you need to know is JJ/E’Twaun/Robbie).
For MSU to prevail, another player besides Green & Appling will need to step up on the scoring end. In the two recent conference losses, Wood has disappeared, and while Nix was huge vs. U-M, he wasn’t enough to overcome a lack of offense by Green.
Basically, if MSU can get to at least 40 points from Green/Appling/somebody else, be it Wood, Nix, Dawson, whomever, I like their chances. But if youg guys can make it tough to score, I like the Boilers chances. Best way to limit MSU offensively is to not let them run, Appling, Wood, Green, Trice, Kearney, and even Dawson can all kill on the break.
Defensively, MSU should be fine – the 81 that NW put up on us in Evanston is certainly an aberration, and the 60 we held M to at AA is more par for the course this season. MSU has been incorporating a little bit of zone this season (and by little bit, I mean tiny – as in, for maybe 4-6 possessions/game, throw out a 2-3 zone for the first 15 seconds that the opponent has the ball past the midcourt line, then go back to in your face man D).
Due to inexperience (two starters first year on team, two of four in active bench rotation new to team), the Spartans can look lost out there sometimes, and can be susceptible to trickeration like backdoor cuts & men getting open due to off the ball screens.
Great review Dersch, thanks
I hadn’t realized Appling was that big in your offense, what do you think of his matchup with Lewis Jackson? I certainly hope Dawson is not your big third scorer against us, that scar is still closing for some around here :)
We have been primarily score by committee this year. I think most would agree Robbie is having his struggles adjusting to being THE guy. Byrd, Smith, Lewjack, Barlow, Hummel have all had some big games for us and our guards seem
To be getting more comfortable with going to the hole.
Your switch from zone to man in a single possession is a very interesting strategy and a testament to your coach. Don’t tell him, but I think the opposite switch may work better against us, we have a tendency to freeze up when we see a zone. Good luck tomorrow, but not too much ;)
by BoilerGOZ on Jan 20, 2012 3:31 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Appling is interesting on D
He seems to perform better against bigger, stronger, but slower guards, than he does against the smaller quicker type – see Trey Burke on M as a perfect example. Though Jordan Taylor certainly had his way with MSU earlier in the season. IIRC, Lewis Jackson is more quick than strong, which could bode well for them.
One surprising development this season has been on the boards – MSU is doing quite well there, which is not a surprise, but 6’11" Adriean Payne is nearly nonexistent on the boards, and after Green, some of the clutch rebounding has been from backcourt players Appling, Wood & Thornton. Brandan Dawson looks good, especially on the offensive boards, but he’s been regressing on D since the start of the season, and keeps seeing fewer minutes/game.
And regarding zone on D, yeah the book is out that MSU often freezes up against the zone, especially when a team switches to it mid-possession – just look at the final possession of the M game, MSU nearly turned it over 3 times in the final 30 seconds!
Dawson hasn't been much of a factor this year...
His game is pretty limited at this point. As another poster mentioned – his defense is very suspect at times (he simply doesn’t hustle/expend enough energy on it) – and he offense is very limited. He has no jump shot — won’t even attempt one. His offensive game is almost exclusively offense rebounds/putbacks. Occasionally he will try to drive and jump and try to get the ball in from a couple feet from the basket – but that’s about it. His defensive rebounding isn’t anything to write home about.
Dawson may become a super stud in the coming years- but at this point in time he’s something like 7th in minutes on this MSU squad and is nothing but a role player at this point.
Also – Appling is very much like Kalin Lucas on offense. He is lethal in transition and is actually faster with the ball in his hand than Kalin was. He isn’t quite the shooter that Kalin was yet (hasn’t mastered the pull-up jumper) – but he’s a little bit better at driving to the hoop (when he’s not charging.. which until the last game he’d gotten much better about).
Dawson . . . IDK what to say
He came in with SOOO much hype, he’s been starting since game 1, and looked like a stud early in the Carrier Classic until he turned his knee. He looks completely lost on D when he has to switch, and has no handle. But he’s 4th in the team in minutes, though less than two MPG ahead of the three immediately behind him.
So right now, Spartan fans are underimpressed with him, but everybody seems to be holding back the angst & just waiting for that breakout game. He’s far from a bust, but I think we just don’t know what to make of him right now. But he’s fourth on the team in scoring & second in boards, so it’s not like he’s not performing.
Hey - just in case you guys were curious...
Izzo and Draymond Green have a lot of respect for Purdue/Hummel… here is a story you guys might like:
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2012/01/purdues_robbie_hummel_has_a_su.html




















