Purdue 75, Illinois 60: No Robbie, No Problem!
If you had told me that Robbie Hummel would be outscored by Travis Carroll on Saturday I would likely have asked if we had replaced Illinois on the schedule with Cascade High School, one of Carroll's old Hendricks County foes. We're not going to have many games this year in which Rob is an almost non-factor, especially in the deciding minutes of the games, yet we when in a blowout. What we got yesterday was basketball nirvana. After Illinois trailed by only two at the half, Purdue came out and delivered 10 minutes of basketball perfection.
The alumni Paint Crew brought the nose too. Before the game I literally had goosebumps from excitement. During that 10-minute stretch Mackey was simply rocking from floor to ceiling like it should be every game. It prompted me to tweet the following:
It's official
@ThePaintCrew. I never want to leave. Please don't send me back to the old alumni section.
I couldn't think of a better way to end 2011, especially since even IU winning gave us a silver lining by knocking Ohio State out of first place. The Buckeyes are not going to lose many this year, so if they choose to completely ignore Jared Sullinger on offense after Cody Zeller fouled out and opt for the, "have Aaron Craft dribble around like an idiot until he turns it over" offense to hand Indiana a victory that only helps everyone else. Iowa's stunning win in Madison is also a very nice bonus.
The bottom line is that we are in first place in the Big Ten as 2012 starts. Michigan State is there with us and Michigan could be by the end of the day. We've also got a favorable schedule to go on a bit of a run here and build a nice little lead before going to MSU on Jan. 21.
Positives From The Illinois Game:
Travis Carroll - TC has taken quite a beating in the comments before, especially with the way he fell apart in section in the Xavier game. It was good to see him have his most complete game of the season. Two of his buckets came off of solid screen rotations and deft passes delivered perfectly. He also stretched the defense with his 19-foot jumper he hit in the first half. That's why I don't have a problem with him taking the three-pointer he took. Technically, he was 40% from long range coming in (2 of 5), so if he is wide open like that (and he will be a lot) why not let him have one or two looks per game under the Nemanja Calasan rule? TC was also very active on defense with two key steals. He's not exactly JJ: White Chocolate version yet, but he is improving.
Kelsey Barlow - The biggest reason we lost to Xavier and Butler is that we forgot to attack the basket entirely in the last 6 minutes of each game. Barlow has been in attack mode of late, and played the second half like a man possessed yesterday. This is absolutely critical for us going forward. I never thought I would say this, but GDB has become one of our most consistent free throws shooters, so if he keeps attacking he's either going to score or get to the line.
Ryne Smith - Yes, the four triples for 12 points was big, but Ryno got the defense started in the second half and it spread like a virus. How do you make a 7'1" man disappear in Meyers Leonard? You have infectious in-your-jersey defense spread to everyone on the team so they can't even get him the ball. It was like a plague in the second half. Ryno started it, but soon Barlow, Terone Johnson, Anthony Johnson, and everyone was playing smothering D as we opened the second half on a 32-7 run. For several possessions there we were playing such tight D that I was afraid Brandon Paul wouldn't have been able to go to the bathroom without a Purdue defender standing there to hold it for him.
Lewis Jackson - 8 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, and one, "I am a bad mother***er" hard foul to establish dominance. Not bad for the smallest man on the court.
D.J. Byrd - D.J. is quickly becoming an indispensible asset off the bench. John hart might be the guy with a knack for the right basket at the right time, but I could get very used to Byrd coming in and scoring 10 or so off the bench.
Teamwork - It cannot be overlooked that the 10 minute stretch to start the second half was Purdue playing absolutely in sync. Everyone on the floor was perfectly in tune with everyone else. When we reach those stretches it is a lot of fun to watch, and it can allow us to overcome any talent deficiency. Illinois is a very good team. They were just outside the top 25, have an excellent center, and pretty good guards. Instead, we made Leonard a complete non-factor and the rest of the Fighting Illini wilted from the Mackey Magic. Now we have a third top 50 RPI win, we're 3-2 against the top 50, and we moved into the top 50 ourselves.
Up next:
It is time to go on a run in the Big Ten play. We go to Penn State next, which should be an easy win. A trip to the play on the Demon Wood of Xibalba at Minnesota will be tricky, but without Trevor Mbakwe we can win in Minneapolis. Wisconsin never wins at Mackey Arena (just a fact) and we follow that with a home game against Iowa. Suddenly, a 6-0 start to league play looks very possible with three road wins and a boatload of confidence before we go to Michigan State.
Nothing is easy in this conference though, as we saw yesterday with Iowa stunning Wisconsin and the Hoosiers honestly pulling off a bigger upset than the Kentucky win. I thought Ohio State would run away and hide, but it is clear they are a vulnerable team on the road, especially if they make ridiculous decisions in the final two minutes of a close game. To me, Indiana's win over them is much more impressive than yet another overrated Kentucky team crapping itself.
It is still very early, but we might be able to compete for a Big Ten title after all. With everyone having played two games after today we're one of only two or three teams without a loss. That's a good position to be in. As long as we defend home court and pick up wins at Penn State, Minnesota, and Northwestern we can be right there before we even talk about trips to Michigan State, Illinois, or Indiana.
Admittedly, it Is still only a dream, but a Big Ten title this year is only a dream for everyone right now. We happen to be one of the few schools closest to making it a reality.
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A lot deeper than people think
That was one of the best games I’ve watched recently. Watching them go on a run without Lewis, Rob and Ryan on the floor goes to show Coach Painter knows his stuff. We may not have a lot of superstars and household names but we do have heart and discipline. Any team that doesn’t take these boys seriously, does so at their on peril. Are going to run the table, no. Are we going to make some noise, you bet.
depth was key
A lot of that 2nd half run was made with starters on the bench.
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
It's funny how college basketball works.
Look at Xavier and Purdue. After they played, Purdue loses to Butler in dramatic fashion while Xavier schedules a brawl and a basketball game breaks out. A few weeks later and the state of both programs looks completely different now.
Charlespig break it down
Hey you are a numbers guy break down the rest of the season for us.The crowd was crazy yesterday I was shocked without the students most of us old people set on our hands was not the case it was close to the OSU game last year.I think we will go 22=8 or 23=7 and get 4 or a 5 seed.Kenpom has us @ 25th and projects 23=7 Weber said Barlow killed us he brought the fight to us and we didn’t have a answer.Good article very accurate assessment charlespig break it down.
Ha
One thing I’ve learned as a Quant Analyst is that prediction is hard, especially if it’s about the future. Numbers only allow you to look at what happened (so that you can take advantage in the present), but you need the future to resemble the past for any extrapolation to be meaningful. One freak injury and the most accurate prediction model is off (and so many of our players aren’t 100%).
Also, I like what coaches always preach: one game at a time. As long as we focus on the next game and play our best, the rest will be taken care of. I’ll be extremely happy if we manage to protect home court while stealing half the games on the road (@O$U, @MSU, @IU, @Mich, @Ill, @NW, @Minn, @Penn). For that to happen, we need TC to be aggressive like he was yesterday.
In fact, the bench is the key for us. We need to have someone stepping us for us from the bench each and every game. It doesn’t have to be the same person, but that’s what we really need.
The 1 and 5 spot remains our weakest in terms of depth. If anything happens to Lewjack (and man, he is banged up) we are in deep trouble. Also, you never know which TC will show up, or how many minutes Lawson can stay on the court. So those are my two biggest concerns.
As far as number is concerned, one thing that stands out from the Ill game: 10. That’s how many rebs LewJack (6) and Ryne Smith (4) have combined. When the two smallest players grab >40% of the rebs, and the generously-listed 5’9 guy is leading the team in rebs, the bigs ought to be ashamed! Lawson once again has ZERO reb. TC only got two, but he played very well yesterday in other areas that I don’t wanna lay it on him. And make FTs! 16-28 is a good percentage for threes, not FTs!
re: the away games
I noticed that you conveniently listed those in order of decreasing difficulty (according to me, anyway). I think the only ones that I would “accept” as losses are those first three – OSU, MSU, and IU. The rest we should win, but there’s never any guarantee. Michigan will still be pretty tough but I think that one will come down to coaching, where I give Painter the edge.
To your call once more we rally....
Pretty good observation
I did rank them in decreasing difficulty. I wouldn’t say we should win but more so that we could win the latter five. Winning on the road is never easy. As Painter always says, you have to be 10-15 pts better than the other team to really win on the road b/c u can almost be assured getting bad calls. Having said that, somehow I get the feeling that we got a homecourt disadvantage yesterday. A lot of the calls against us really make no sense (e.g. Lawson’s first foul that wipes off Ryne’s first 3), which I thought it should only come on the road.
I'll agree with that
To your call once more we rally....
by BoilerPaulie on Jan 1, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Rebounding
I don’t know why you consider lewjack and ryne combining for 10 rebounds a bad thing. Painter always stresses we need to rebound as a team, presumably because we only have one truly athletic big, and Lawson is very young. I do think we should get more from Lawson but he does do a good job of keeping balls alive, so I’ll give him a bit of a pass. If TC and Sandi box out and keep there man from getting the ball that’s a job well done. If the ball comes there way they need to grab it, but if lew, ryne, Barlow etc track down the shots that’s a good thing. That’s what Painter expects. Illinois also had like 17 TOs; which means less defensive rebound chances.
by Boiler17 on Jan 1, 2012 5:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well
It isn’t a “bad thing” per se for LewJack and Ryne to get lots of rebs if we are winning the rebounding battle (which we didn’t). Perhaps it just a testament to how hard Ryne and LewJack played. If the bigs are boxing out such that the guards get the ball, that’s fine, but don’t you think it is still ridiculous in 39 combined mins Lawson and TC only get 2 rebs? It reminds me of what TMill says about John Allison’s rebounding.
Bottom line, it’s great that our guards are rebounding well. But if we face strong rebounding teams like MSU, our bigs need to crash the board every time in order to have a chance to not get murdered on the board, so they may as well start doing that now.
Stats
I just went back and looked at the stats and was quite surprised that UI beat us so badly on the offensive glass. Too me that is the biggest rebounding stat. I think it’s tough to analyze stats in a game in which a team shoots so well. We played so well for 10 minutes that we basically won the game during that span.
I do think that Lawson and TC (especially Lawson) need to combine for more than 2 boards, but I think the stats were skewed a little bit because we shot so well. UI had more possesions then us (which is usually a disadvantage) but we shot so well it didn’t matter. But I don’t think it’s a glaring problem, because for the most part our guards work hard and rebound well (and its expected of them). If a team boxes out properly the ball should hit the ground before anyone grabs it. TC boxes out very well, and he has to because he has physical limitations. I don’t think we should be too critical of TC when he is playing fundamently sound ball.
I think everyone needs to acknowledge that rebounding isn’t our greatest strength, but it’s not as bad as many people believe it is either, plus we make up for it in other ways. Namely winning the turnover battle. I don’t think rebounding is going to hurt us against teams like MSU and Minny like everyone believes.
TC
I was most impressed with the way TC abused Leonard when Illinois had the ball. Leonard kept trying to push him around, but TC pushed back and was able to help a lot with getting those two 3 second calls.
by Bryan Kennedy on Jan 1, 2012 11:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
couldn't agree more
Travis played a wonderful game yesterday! So glad to see him playing with confidence again. If he can keep building on it he will be a huge contributor for us this year! Those three second violations he forced were awesome, and he basically frustrated the crap out of their 7 foot center! He also was setting perfect screens, freeing up Byrd and Smith on multiple occasions. I hope he continues to build on this performance. This is the TC I was expecting to see this year after last season. Glad he is back!!!!
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Jan 1, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Glad to see everyone hopping back on the TC bandwagon
Hopefully word gets back to Travis that the fans are behind him. It’s amazing what a little confidence boost like this game will do. He was the better big man, against a guy who has been called one of the top 3 centers in the conference.
BTFU!
by BoilerAdam on Jan 1, 2012 12:12 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
This is so funny
All the TC hater, TJ hater, Ryne hater Byrd hater got absolutely nothing to say! I am just so sick of ppl throwing TC under the bus, saying how shitty TJ is, or that Ryne should not start or Byrd should play less than 10 mins. I think criticism to players (when they don’t play well) is fine, but throwing them under the bus or calling them garbage really crosses the line. Glad those guys step up big time yesterday. I am very happy for them, and at least for once I don’t have to listen to the crap ppl unfairly put on them.
LOL
If one were to hate all those players, who’s left? Are they even Purdue fans? If you hate all those players, you’re basically left with Robbie. I guess that means you would just sit on the couch and cheer when Hummel has the ball, and scream profanity at the screen otherwise. Kind of a funny mental picture.
I was never down on TC
Just always thought he needed his confidence back… looks like it is… and it is the perfect time for it!
Boiler Up! Hammer Down!
by JuJuan some Moore? on Jan 1, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know what got into him
But he made Leonard look like he was about to cry at times.
He was always in position to make something happen and probably had a dozen key plays.
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My observation on TC ...
is that if he is aggressive, goes low and uses his butt to bump the other team’s big man off posn then we are in good shape. He did it to Sullinger at Mackey last year. He did it to Illinois’ big yesterday. He needs to keep doing that. Apparently when he is confident (like making his first jumper), he plays like a different person.
loved watching him play D in the paint
Where has this been!?! TC (and Lawson too) erased Leonard off the court. We need to see more of this, esp against Minny and Sampson III.
Best of all – we finally, FINALLY got to see that Purdue D that we’ve been lacking. This is what they mean when they say that defense wins games.
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
Keady Would Call it The Magic Level
Very encouraging to see the team buy into the concept of intensive defensive pressure. Much good comes out of it. This level of defensive intensity needs to be a staple of Purdue’s game going forward.
As someone who has been all over Carroll’s shit (and Byrd) of late, I thought they both played very well. Carroll has a good basketball IQ, he needs to play with the confidence of possessing it.
As far as easy wins on the road, I believe that is a very dangerous and risky notion. This team needs to maintain their hunger at all times.
by ZoKnowsDefense on Jan 1, 2012 11:22 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Cooch
I haven’t been able to watch the previous 3 games but I noticed Sandi didn’t play yesterday. Is he injured or are there other reasons he didn’t see action?
Strained calf muscle
He had a pretty big wrap on it last night. He was in warmups, but didn’t even participate in the shoot around.
BTFU!
by BoilerAdam on Jan 1, 2012 11:34 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Calf muscle injury
He’s the player who REALLY needs more rep. This is just not good development. Although, if that means TC will get more aggressive knowing that he’s guaranteed to have the minutes, then I don’t mind too much.
With Lawson starting and TC's effort off the bench - Sandi can stay where he is.
I was hoping to see a lot more out of the Choooch this season, but right now I’m good with seeing less
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
Agree
But if and only if TC’s EFFORT LIKE YESTERDAY’S GAME. If he gets back to the TC in the Xavier game then I can’t imagine how many baskets Sullinger or Zeller gonna score…
eleventy billion
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
6-0!?
I’m sorry but I don’t think that will happen. We killed ill yesterday, but this team is so nonconsistant. We beat High Point by 1 at home, so I don’t think wiscy at home is going to be a given, just because they haven’t won here in a while. I think we lose that game. We beat Ill and now think we are big ten contenders? Show me the 6-0 start first before even thinking those kind of statements.
by TheBox on Jan 1, 2012 11:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions
okay, jsut saying it is reasonable to think
It’s easier to contend int he Big Ten with said 6-0 start, especially when nine other teams have at least one loss already.
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Really? You're still talking about that game?
Remember Wofford 4 years ago? By your logic, we should have gone winless in the B1G that season.
by Jackson Brunner on Jan 1, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Not trying to say that
Saying that we had a really good night, just like we did when O$U stopped by last year, but that doesnt constitute that we are contenders yet. I would like to see a little more consistancy before making those types of bold statements. We win big, everyone thinks we are contenders, we lose and everyone trys to figure out if we will make the tournament this year. How about trying the middle approach.
If you don’t like High Point as an example, try using Butler just 3 games ago. Yes, I would love it if we were 6-0, but lets take baby steps. That way there won’t be hugh swings in thoughts on how the season will go.
Really?
Even after the game last night you don’t have a single positive thing to say? Jeez…
BTFU!
by BoilerAdam on Jan 1, 2012 12:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
There were many positives
My point was the prediction of 6-0 and how we should hold off before preclaiming that we will compete for a title this year. TMill addressed all of the positives.
Do you really think we could not beat Wiscy last night?
You have to balance optimism with pessimism. You can’t just focus on the bad and you can’t just focus on the bad
by Caleb Benner on Jan 1, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
The way we played last night will get us 18-0 in B1G (ok, maybe 17-1)
The key is, can we reproduce/sustain that? It’s like the way we played @MSU or against O$U last yr we should have won every game the rest of the way and be crowned NC. The biggest X-factor is 1) LewJack needs to stay healthy, and 2) MCL (Marcius, Carroll, Lawson) needs to hold up.
Sustaining It is Extremely Difficult...
Alot of mental focus required plus good game prep and in game management.
I would add that the first half of Xavier and Butler games also showed how good Purdue is capable of being.
by ZoKnowsDefense on Jan 1, 2012 2:13 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Not a fan of MCL
I mean its better than ACL but still feels pretty dangerous to be talking about.
fried ocra
Somebody holla at me!
by Bloomington.Boiler on Jan 1, 2012 11:20 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
ocra?!
north of the mason-dixon? the hell you say
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
by sea.of.white on Jan 1, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
We crushed Illinois at home
and just beat Iowa on the road, the same Iowa that had a convincing win over Wisconsin in Madison.
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Does that mean that Iowa will be a contender since they beat Wiscy?
These are single games… just saying let us let things work out a little before proclaiming we are a top team.
naah...
but it does mean that they are officially twice the contender as Nebraska!
:)
To your call once more we rally....
by BoilerPaulie on Jan 1, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
This just in:
A one-point victory is … a victory. So quit treating it like it was a loss.
Turns out that 6-0 is 6-0 no matter how close the margin of victory in, as long as you win each game.
To your call once more we rally....
Well we actually beat High Point by 2
so I guess that’s really good if we were basing this discussion off of a 1 point victory
That's the nice thing about bball
You can turn ugly non-conference losses into learning experiences instead of season killers like in football. The Butler loss was going to define our season one way or another and so far it looks like the team has rallied and not withered. We have been up and down this season so it will be interesting to see if we can carry this momentum further.
Also I have been tough on TC like everyone else so far and I will happily say he stepped up big yesterday and proved the doubters wrong, hopefully he can keep it going.
This team can get away with defensive intensity like that for the whole game
With an 11 man rotation (when Sandi comes back) you can keep up the pressure without guys getting too gassed.
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amazing difference halftime makes
I DVR’d this game and has to quit watching with a couple minutes left in the first half. I switched to live TV to find us up 74-58! Needless to say I was VERY happy. Can’t wait to watch the rest today and see us pulling away!
by BoilerGOZ on Jan 1, 2012 12:57 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Yes, halftime makes A LOT of difference
For the good, see Western Carolina game; for the bad, see Butler game. If you watch only one half you’d either declare us the best team in CBB or the worst team in CBB.
that is certainly true.
Seems like the stretches where we are in sync are coming more and more often. I think the apparent good health of D.J. Byrd and John Hart making it back in the rotation are making great improvements on our team.
by BoilerGOZ on Jan 1, 2012 3:59 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Agree
the apparent good health of D.J. Byrd and John Hart making it back in the rotation are making great improvements on our team.
And not long ago ppl were calling John Hart a waste and Byrd shouldn’t play more than 10 mins. Duh.
Don't agree with your title.
Just having Robbie’s leadership on the court and around the young players makes this a much better team even if the stats aren’t there sometimes. With Painter and Hummel we have 2 top coaches that know the system and how to carry it out.
Exactly
It only shows that Purdue can win big games without big numbers from Hummel.
by ZoKnowsDefense on Jan 1, 2012 2:05 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Disagree
GDB has become one of our most consistent free throws shooters
GDB was only 5-7 yesterday, which is right around his avg at 71%, and that is good (Purdue standard) but not great number. In terms of shooting percentage he is still behind Robbie, Ryne, and LewJack. And in terms of getting to the line he is still behind LewJack.
Having said that, give the kid credit for working hard and improving his FT% from 47% as a frosh. It shows that there is still hope for TJ.
He is one of our most consistent this year
Compared to TJ, Carroll, The Chooch, AJ, Lawson…
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OK, agree if the emphasis is ONE OF
Yet, 71% isn’t exactly exciting. But comparing to where he came from and considering the rest of the team then yes, he’s a bright spot in terms of FT.
compared to Terone Johnson,
he’s LETHAL from the FT line :)
To your call once more we rally....
by BoilerPaulie on Jan 1, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
And Barlow's game gets him a LOT of FTs.
A 70% FT shooter who gets to the rim and draws fouls often is more valuable than a 90% shooter who only shoots a pair per game at most.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Jan 1, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
LewJack shoots at a higher percentage than Barlow and gets to the line more often than Barlow.
Agreed. My point was consistency implies doing it a lot.
I would consider Barlow more consistent than say Beshears, to take an extreme example, because he gets a lot more FTs, regardless of percentages.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Jan 1, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
And I’d agree even if you use Ryne Smith as an example. Smith is a great FT shooter just doesn’t get to the line enough.
B1G Title
It is still very early, but we might be able to compete for a Big Ten title after all.
Watching the IU game last night I keep wondering which team do I want to win more? My heart says IU but my mind says if O$U loses it increases our chances of winning the B1G. Or at least a share of the title. If we get even a share of the title this year I say Painter deserves to be named national COY and worth every penny of his $2.3M contract.
Even a 2nd place finish
Would open the eyes of all the critics.
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top 8 would open Gottlieb's eyes
wait, no, no, it won’t.
but neither would a championship.
To your call once more we rally....
by BoilerPaulie on Jan 1, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
HIs eyes are already open
Unfortunately they’re completely caked with semen from his bukkake scene with <insert flavor of the month teams/ Perennial power teams>. The man is a moron. It’s a shame he’s wasting otherwise valuable oxygen by continuing to breathe.
On second read, maybe a tad harsh, but I’m leaving it that way. To repeat what’s been said many time before, he’s an asshat.
To all Ryne hater
I wonder what you have left to criticize his game yesterday. That he missed a three and made ONLY 4 of them? That he drew the 3rd foul on Illinois’ big man not soon enough? That he ignited the team’s defense like wild fire? Oh, maybe it’s b/c he ONLY gets 4 rebs, which is one more than Lawson, TC, Barlow and Byrd combined!
Sure, he is not athletic at all, but come on, he plays as hard as anyone on the floor to overcome his deficiency and become an overachieving contributor. That, to me, is what defines a true Boilermaker. I’d rather take a kid who has heart over a kid who has “talent.” Geez, I wish we’ve red-shirted him and have him for another year.
Ryne was tearin' it up
esp the way he saved that over-and-back turnover by throwing it off of the Ill defender…. :)
Seriously, I thought Ryne was the Senior, emotional leader that Robbie wasn’t last night
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
LOL, Robbie has that grin
Finally we catch a break in the calls :-)
he knew!
not sure what would be more impressive – actually pulling it off and throwing it off of the Illinois player, or just making it look like he did and getting the call anyways….
yeah, it was kinda like having Jim Burr on your side for once.
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
/cue twilight zone theme
To your call once more we rally....
by BoilerPaulie on Jan 1, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Barlow
Continues to prove himself this season. There is improvement in nearly every facet of his game. When he is dialed in defensively, he is a menace to the opposing team. Yesterday he (along with Ryne and others, granted) wore IL down. Offensively, he’s shown much better decision making in terms of driving the ball and shot selection. His FG% can be improved, but he is indispensable penetrating, defending and rebounding. Too soon to put the kibosh on “GDB”?
Barlow is my preseason breakout player of the year pick
But then, let’s wait till April and don’t jinx anything. He is the kind of player who can do sth incredibly dumb in a heartbeat (like getting suspended from the team). So let’s be cautiously optimistic only.
Barlow
No it is still “GDB” but it means something different. AS in “GD” I can’t believe how much Kelsey dominated that game. He barely missed 3-4 additional steals that would have made for a much larger 1st half lead. Barlow is the most talented player on Purdue’s team, and is on his way to becoming the most important. Might be time for Painter to figure out how to keep him on the floor longer.
Barlow gives Purdue an edge, much like Chris Kramer used to.
if he puts in the work again this offseason
I think he can be in the NBA. He obviously would need to work on his shot and it’s already improved from last year. His jump shot form looks good.
When thinking ahead to next year’s team I keep thinking man it really could be a down year after losing two groups of players in two years that are very huge pieces combined. Hummel, LewJack and Smith are leading our team and I really can’t even fathom not having all 3 after losing E’twaun and JJ.
However, if Kelsey improves even slightly I think we could be very solid with him and Byrd as Senior leaders and Hart’s experience as a Senior. Throw in the other key players like the Johnson’s and the new talent and potential x-factor of Hammons and we could be pretty good again.
"Time for Painter to figure out how to keep him on the floor longer."
He led the team in minutes last night with 27, so obviously Painter sees the same things we do. To me, Barlow has been by FAR the most improved player this year.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Jan 1, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this
and I said it before but I am even more encouraged by it now: if he can remain consistent, he could be on one of the all-big ten teams this season.
To your call once more we rally....
That's a strong statement
Barlow is the most talented player on Purdue’s team
Talented? Or athletic? The funny thing is ppl now singing him praise when back in April they were hoping him to not return so as to free up a scholarship for GH.
He's very very athletic
Barlow, Lawson, LewJack may be the most athletic….
What Barlow is missing is hustle/intensity (he looks slow or lazy from time to time), and the talent to finish some of those very athletic plays.
Case in point – against Ill, he attacked the basket very well, just like we needed him to. He was beating guys off the dribble, elevating like none other, and not even close to finishing. With the way he’s been shooting, I’ll take the free throws, but an ‘and 1’ would be even better.
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
one of my favorite Barlow qualities
Is that he absolutely hates IU.
by Bloomington.Boiler on Jan 1, 2012 11:26 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
how could I forget
silly me

>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
by sea.of.white on Jan 2, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
For several possessions there we were playing such tight D that I was afraid Chris Paul wouldn’t have been able to go to the bathroom without a Purdue defender standing there to hold it for him.
pretty sweet that we shut down Chris Paul.
hahaha yeah
I noticed that too.
I think you mean Brandon Paul, TMill.
LOL
I saw that, and I was wondering but for a moment I thought he really meant Chris Paul and I was scratching my head to figure out why.
I don't like
projecting wins and losses. It’s one game, we played great, and I think it’s a good blueprint for our team going forward. But these are college kids, the season is long……there’s always letdowns and “scratch your head” performances that we don’t expect. Projecting wins based on other team’s performances this early just leads to more team and player bashing when the inevitable bad loss happens. JMO
I think yesterday’s performance is what Matt has been working toward and waiting to see. He knew depth was going to be a big strength of this team and has been tinkering around with rotations to see what clicked……..getting everybody healthy also played a big part.
The key going forward IMO is maintaining the defensive intensity. There will be lapses and bonehead plays, but if these guys have really bought into the team defense concept this could really be a lot of fun.
Get use to it ;-)
I got murdered dozens of times too and still surviving :-)
OMG
The killed Charlie!

>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
You bastards!!!!!!!!
Boiler Up! Hammer Down!
by JuJuan some Moore? on Jan 1, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn't meant to be personal
I hope you didn’t take it that way. If you did, I’m sorry.
The key point that your post was missing is the optimism going forward, and you seemed to be caught up with dwelling on past mistakes.
I’m optimistic that we’ve learned from the mistakes of the Butler and Xavier games, and came out stronger in the second half and finally closed out a game. There was one point, shortly after Lew got called for the foul on the inbound play, where it looked like they were going to go on a run, and we were getting cold. Then DJ hit a long three, and we were back in business.
BTFU!
by BoilerAdam on Jan 1, 2012 9:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i agree
I thought the game was great, especially given rob only scored 5 points. If we can get this type of production from tc, byrd and kenny we will be hard to stop. While I am not expecting we can play at that level every game from now on, it does give hope that we are improving.
by TheBox on Jan 1, 2012 11:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who's Kenny?
I guess I’m just too used to GDB, lol



















