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Know Thy Team 2011: Quarterbacks

Now that I have gone through the entire schedule in detail on all 12 opponents, it is time to get to know what we're going to throw at them. For the first time in a very long time it seems like we have some definitely depth at several positions. Much of it is not proven, but the silver lining of having to play so many players due to injury in 2010 is that a ton of guys now have experience.

At no position is that more true than quarterback, where in two of the past three seasons injuries have forced us to play four guys. In 2008 we played Curtis Painter, Joey Elliott, Justin Siller, and even walk-on Chris Bennett for a handful of plays. Last year we saw four different QBs start a game if you count Siller. As we go through day five in camp the word is that the passing game is lagging behind the running game despite the experience returning. It is all about reps though, and many of these quarterbacks have never been able to get consistent reps with the current group of receivers due to injury.

Coach Hope has already said that as many as three quarterbacks will play. Yesterday he even stated that the best one throwing the ball might be Caleb TerBush. Personally, I don't think a quarterback rotation is a good idea no matter how good each player is. You need that consistency at the position to make a passing game work, and 9 out of 10 times a dual system is a recipe for failure. What baffles me even more is that one of our quarterbacks has already struggled in a shared system.

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That said, here is my breakdown of the position as we head into the season:

Starter: Rob Henry - So. (RS)

Career starts: 7

Career stats: 86-162 for 996 yards, 8 TD's, 7 INTs. 547 yards and 4 TD's rushing

I think Rob Henry needs to be named THE guy right now. His hand is finally healed and he showed a lot of improvement from the beginning to the end of last year. His best game was the Indiana game where he threw for three touchdowns, but he still forced a crippling interception in overtime to pretty much seal our fate. Over a quarter of his passing yards came in that game as well.

The other big factor is that he was already voted a team captain. He was chosen as a leader by his peers, and that is rare for a guy in just his second year on the field. Henry gives us the most versatility at the position with his ability to create plays with his feet. He just needs time that I fear he is not getting in the passing game because we insist on sharing duties at the position. You can't discount his performance at Northwestern, where the passing game was limited but he still created a win with his legs. Ultimately, that was the most important result. If we have to run the ball that is fine as long as it is successful. Whatever it takes to have more points at the end of the game is fine with me.

Of course, you still need the passing game to be a threat, and that is the most critical feature when Henry is in the game and taking snaps. The Wildcat bullcrap only works so much. What I fear is a system where Henry enters on running downs and Marve enters on throwing downs. We might as well tell opposing defense our intentions if that happens. As long as we insist on splitting quarterbacks Henry has to be at least a threat to throw, and throw successfully.

Top Backup: Robert Marve - Sr.

Career starts: 15

Career stats: 183-312 for 1,805 yards, 12 TDs, 17 INTs. 172 yards and 3 TD's rushing

In a perfect world Marve is entering his second full year as the starter. I really like the kid and I feel like he has had nothing but bad luck his entire career. Part of it was his fault at Miami, but he has suffered a car accident, minor legal troubles, a quarterback rotation in Miami, a tumultuous transfer saga, and two ACL tears in the same knee all since beginning his college career. The kid has matured since coming to West Lafayette and I would love to see him have success this season.

Unfortunately, the knee is the question. He has already had to be held out of practice once because of swelling, and that was in the non-torn ACL knee. The swelling stems from the tendon hey took from that knee to repair the other. The kid has been given a ton of talent but has completed exactly one college football game while healthy since 2009. He was banged up in the first two home games before the ACL went against Toledo.

Undoubtedly Marve is the better passer than Henry, but he still struggled against Ball State and Western Illinois last year. The knee seems to be limiting him so far in his battle to regain his starting position. Only twice in 15 starts has he thrown for more than 200 yards in a game, with 220 at Notre Dame last year as his career high. Based on everything that has come out of camp so far I can't see him passing Henry, but he has to be ready. With Henry as a running QB injury can always rear its ugly head.

3rd String: Caleb TerBush - Jr. (RS)

Career starts: 0

Career stats: 4-10 for 22 yards

TerBush is the poster child for Danny Hope talking about a good practice. He might be the greatest practice QB in the history of college football, but we have yet to see it on the field. He missed last season due to academics and has played in a grand total of one game. He saw mop-up action in the 37-0 blowout at Wisconsin in 2009. Still, he has the most experience in the system by being around for three full years.

Allegedly he is the best passer so far and might be edging up on Marve for the #2 job. If he is truly the best passer I would be tempted to make Henry a Superback type and name TerBush the starter right now. It seems like all three of these guys have strengths that I wish we could combine into one QB.

Redshirting: Sean Robinson - So.

Career starts: 1

Career stats: 44-91 for 306 yards, 2 TDs, 6 INTs, 50 yards rushing

Robinson probably redshirts last year if TerBush doesn't get suspended academically or Marve stays healthy. Instead he was forced to play and even start a game when he probably needed the redshirt year to get up to speed. Now he is in line for said redshirt and stands a good chance of battling for the starting position in 2012 and beyond. In high school he was a solid dual threat quarterback, but we didn't see a lot of his running ability last year.

Still, he was respectable for a true freshman making his lone start against Big Ten champ Wisconsin last year. He had 141 yards passing with a TD and 31 yards rushing against one of the better defenses in the conference. Those aren't great numbers, but not bad for a guy that was playing out of sheer necessity. He still has a lot to learn, but has time to learn it.

Deep reserves: Spencer Dawson, Austin Parker

Parker is a walk-on redshirt freshman from the same high school as T.J. Barbarette. Dawson is a senior that has been a walk-on for just one season. These two will only play in the biggest of blowouts or if there is an absolute disaster in front of them.

Wild Cards: Justin Siller, Delapo McCarthy, Justin Sinz

I call these guys wild cards because they were either quarterbacks in high school, have run plays at the position before, or both. Siller, as we know, has four starts at QB but wasn't healthy at all last year. It's been three years since he saw significant time at the position, but I can see him being the emergency guy even ahead of Robinson if they wish to keep his redshirt.

McCarthy was a late addition to the roster who ran quarterback during the spring game and was the #15 dual-threat QB in his high school class before going to prep school for a year. He's got good size at 6'5" and is currently listed as a receiver, but always keep him in mind for a trick play if he sees the field.

Sinz was a former all-state quarterback in Wisconsin who is now a converted tight end. If he sees the field a trick pass could be an option as well.

Final analysis:

It is terribly frustrating to be known as the Cradle of Quarterbacks when we don't have a definite starter at the position. it is even more frustrating when the best in-state QB prospect in years goes to freakin' IU. It is a tough position to judge because honestly there are things I like about all four of the top guys. I like Henry's running ability and leadership. I like Marve's toughness and work ethic as well as his arm. I like TerBush's arm. I even like Robinson's calm demeanor at being asked to play before he was ready.

Each player has huge question marks too. Can Henry throw effectively? Can Marve stay healthy? Can TerBush run the offense in a game as well as he does in practice? Is Robinson ready? Right now I feel like Henry is our best option, but I am far from totally sold on it.

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Going to have to agree with your assessment.

Lots of questions hanging up in the air, but I’m more anxious to just see some football played and let the answers be answered on the field rather than pontificate back and forth on the matter while I can’t do anything about it, so I’ll refrain from further comment until I see some football.

Did I mention I just really want to see football being played again?

To your call once more we rally....

by BoilerPaulie on Aug 10, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

The running game will help the QB this season.

Very good analysis, I like the fact that all of these guys will be back (assuming Marve gets a 6th year – tough to assume after Keith Smith I guess), and we will be getting Appleby, who I have heard is another perfect addition to the cradle.

by jffiv on Aug 10, 2011 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

here's what it comes down to for me

this is not “our year”. we’re a fringe bowl team AT BEST, and while marve is going to ask for a 6th year he’s probably not going to get it. so our future quarterback is either ter bush or henry, and i think (and it appears as though the coaching staff agrees) that henry has the higher upside. so with that in mind, i don’t know why we insist on having a dual quarterback system. i think we need henry to be the starter and sole quarterback. he needs to practice with the 1st team offense and take as many game snaps as possible because while that might lead to some terrible “7-22 for 92 yards” performances it’ll benefit us in the long run b/c it will give him the learning experiences necessary to make him a better QB for next year, when we will hopefully have the talent and experience to make some noise in the big 10. i’m afraid that if we insist on splitting time this year, next year, when henry will (probably) be expected to carry the whole load, he won’t be able to do it because he won’t be where he needs to be. he’s a talented guy for sure, but he’s got a lot to learn and he needs the opportunity to do so.

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by therailroadtie on Aug 10, 2011 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

totally agree

It’s happened several times where a guy doesn’t get to be “the guy” until his senior year. Why do we always insist on that? At a minimum, I think we should pick ONE of these guys, and know that the potential is there for them to get replaced. What if we made Henry the QB, and he turned out to be spectacular? Wouldn’t we love to then speculate about next year with him at the helm? Instead, we are at best going to “get by” with dual QBs, and still not know what we have for next year.

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by chevys10 on Aug 11, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

With all the unknows at QB...

…and little coming from the Purdue camp on who’s the man, I’m getting more and more antsy as the season approaches. Only three and a half weeks away. As I’ve said before, just like TMill notes above, the dual QB worries me most. As much as I see Henry as the guy, I’ll take Robinson over a dual QB offense.

by docjay0 on Aug 10, 2011 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

The dual threat QB talk is a load of bull.

By the time we reach game week Henry will be named the starter. Mark it down.
Marve is sitting out practices at this point due to fear of more injury and TerBush has never played significant minutes. The job belongs to Rob Henry…Hope is talking in “coach speak”. I’m 100% solid on this.

by Jackson Brunner on Aug 10, 2011 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm inclined to agree.

We’ll see how it all plays out though.

Is footballs heres yets?

To your call once more we rally....

by BoilerPaulie on Aug 10, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't be so sure...

…if you remember last season, before all the injuries, Henry took some snaps on running plays while Marve was the primary QB. So if history is dictating anything, being 100% certain is pretty bold.

by docjay0 on Aug 11, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good evaluations

In my humbled opinion, I still think this team will succeed with Marve running the show. I know last year when I saw him throw at the spring game, the beauty and “touch” of his deep throws was awesome. It made me want to get back out on the field and run some routes! (disclaimer, I’d probably have about 2 heart attacks out there! LOL)
He finally has the offense under his belt, and that seemed to be part of his problem last year. Getting used to the speed of the game will be the only real adjustment period I could see him needing. He also has gained much maturity on and off the field.
I’m pulling for Marve, but I’m obviously not Hope or Nord.
I’ll just be happy to see us take the field, who ever our QB may be!
BTFU!

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by sixmikey9 on Aug 11, 2011 10:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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