Patrick Bade To Switch To Football?
In a stunning turn of events Brian Neubert of GBI tweeted that Patrick Bade is planning to leave the Purdue basketball program...
...and join the Purdue football program.
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If all goes as expected, junior Patrick Bade will leave #Purdue basketball team and join #Boilermakers football team. Not finalized yet.
Yes, you saw that right. Bade is apparently done on the hardwood and instead will be heading across the street to Ross-Ade Stadium to play tight end for Danny Hope's Boilers. I find this a bit surprising. I knew he was highly recruited out of high school for football, but to go back to the game after not playing in two years, especially when some people questioned his toughness on the basketball court, is nothing less than stunning.
The thing is, he could play immediately. He has three years of football eligibility left thanks to the "5 years to play 4" rule by the NCAA. That means he could redshirt this year as he re-acclimates to football. He could, while being on football scholarship, still play during the Big Ten season if we needed him. We're going to be short on size yet again, but I was someone who wasn't ready to give up on him. I think he was thrown into a bad situation as a freshman and was expected to do too much, especially after Robbie Hummel went down. Last year all the talk was that he was much improved, but he struggled to find minutes after starting early in the year.
After the Ohio State game in Columbus he got himself a few more minutes because he "stopped feeling sorry for himself and got back to work", but he still didn't play a lot with Travis Carroll and Sandi Marcius taking what minutes he had. In many ways, this season was a step back. He went from 51 points scored to 18, 35 games played to 23, and 55 rebounds to 35. Combined with two freshmen passing him, I guess it is not as much of a surprise.
I still feel bad for Patrick. He's a good kid that took a lot of unwarranted abuse from message boards and even commenters on this site. I have no doubt that he was trying out there because coach Painter doesn't play people who don't try. For whatever reason his skills, which were stellar in his senior season at Franklin Central, never translated to Purdue's style. That's not his fault. I wanted him to succeed and still felt he could be a valuable member of next year's team. I always felt that with the shooting ability he had in high school he could have been more like Hummel, but he was never asked to fill Hummel's role.
So what are the football implications here? At 6'8" 229 pounds he is probably going to project as a tight end. USC, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Notre Dame were all giving him interest to play football. With Kyle Adams graduating there is certainly a spot for him to play. He'll battle Sterling Carter and freshman Robert Kugler for playing time. Gabe Holmes, Justin Sinz, and Crosby Wright are also tight ends currently on the roster, but only Holmes has played.
There is also the possibility that he can still contribute in basketball. As a football scholarship player he can technically walk on to the basketball team, but he wouldn't be available until after Thanksgiving at the earliest. He can even sit out for a year in basketball, concentrate on football, then return for two more years as a walk-on while still being on football scholarship.
In basketball, the immediate implications leave us with only Hummel, Marcius, Carroll, and two freshmen in Donnie Hale and Jacob Lawson as big men. Of those, only Hummel has made a big contribution so far. It does, however, free up a scholarship for next season. If Brandon Wood were still available this would be his spot. That scholarship will likely sit empty for the 2011-12 season, but I know people are more concerned for the 2012-13 season.
Unfortunately, we're still questionable for that year. The Ronnie Johnson announcement put us one scholarship over in what would have been Bade's final year of basketball. We're now back to full for 2012-13 and 2013-14 instead of being one over for both years (Correction: We're still one over in 2013-14). Everyone wants Gary Harris and he hinted that Purdue is still in the running, but as of right now there is not room...
... at least for basketball.
You see, Harris is also a highly recruited wide receiver with the Hamilton Southeastern football program. We could technically sign him to a football scholarship for the 2012 football season, and while he redshirts he would be fully available to walk on to the basketball team. He then would only need to stay on football scholarship for one year, walk-on again as a sophomore, then there would be a basketball scholarship available for his junior year in 2014-15 for basketball.
The pieces are starting to line up here. We seem to have gained a lot of ground in the Harris sweepstakes after Ronnie Johnson signed. His addition would be a major coup as it would give us possibly the best in state player in the class of 2012.
Stay tuned!
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This reminds me of Chris Kramer
A lot of people (myself included), thought Kramer would play for the Football team after his time with the basketball team was up. Unfortunately, we were wrong. Ah, the nostalgia. Can you call that nostalgia seeing as it was only 2 years ago? Anyway, I think it might effect the B-Ball team a little bit to lose a guy going into his Junior year, now you have to find and prep someone else to take over after Hummel. Assuming he leaves the team anyway. My guess is this is just something he’s only thinking about. Nevertheless, I wouldn’t mind having a 6’8" tight-end…
Crippled -- Just like Purdue
by SwaggerOfTheCripple on Jun 7, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
Simpson
Looks like he’s going to prep school next year.
La Lumiere
Looks like Simpson will be teammates with Hanner Perea. It’ll be interesting to see how that dynamic will workout since both players play the same position. I’d say they’d have a pretty formidable front line with both of those guys.
Very interesting
They’ll battle each other in practice, and then the next 4 yrs in the rivalry.
Apparently...
Rapheal Davis is considering a move to La Lumiere as well. I’m not sure how I feel about either player making the switch to prep school but if it helps them in the classroom and on the court than it can’t be a bad thing. Plus, Rapheal’s team in Ft Wayne is pretty bad so it would be nice for him to play with quality players.
Whoa
I did not see that one coming. But I have to say, if he has the likes of USC and OSU after him to play football what made him choose basketball?
It's a trick, get an ax
Brandon Wood?
Wouldn’t he be an option for the extra scholarship next year?
Already announced
Michigan State got him.
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H.O.L.Y. C.R.A.P.
Everything is starting to come together for us to get Harris. If Harris were added to our 8th ranked 2012 class, we would probably move up to 3rd in the nation according to ESPN.com
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/127/class/2012
This is in front of a year in which we will have the #1 class (as of now). It is a good time to be a Purdue basketball fan.
I really hope that Bade does well with whichever sport he decides to play.
He always came off as a good kid who got caught in a very unfortunate circumstance. Best of luck, Bade! (Thank God you’re staying in West Lafayette!)
Come on
He’s just a kid. He’ll be fine.
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by BoilerTMill on Jun 7, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree with Tmill
I don’t think there is any reason to have that kind of attitude. By all accounts he worked hard and tried to do his best. I hope he does well on the football team! We are in need of a good tightend
I seriously hope he gets on the football team
And blow all our minds away with how awesome he is. Wouldn’t that just be fantastic?
I can only dream.
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There's a precident
Every time Antonio Gates catches a touchdown pass you’ll either hear about how he has basketball hands and / or how he blocked out his defender
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Wishing Patrick all the best
I’ve met members of his family at the games a few times and he’s a solid kid. Hope he’s able to make a big impact on the football team, and soon. Still though, I’d rather have him as a multi-sport athlete as a walk-on with basketball so we can still smash our hands together in the student section for some “BADE SMASH” action.
To your call once more we rally....
BADE SMASH!
Will live again!
Maybe he can get his revenge against Hitler from two years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV4NTBBZvYk
(Also, that video turned out to be eerily prescient in terms of how this past season shook out).
I was guilty of some Bade-bashing
But I really do wish him the best. I think expectations for his sophomore year were pretty high and I think that, along with some other issues really weighed him down. I admire him for taking on the challenge of putting the pads back on after putting so much into basketball. I think a fresh start with zero expectations will be a great opportunity for him. I’m glad he’ll still be in the Boilermaker family.
Maybe Pryor will follow Bade’s lead and join O$U’s basketball team.
Lord, jager me strength.
by doublegoldandblack on Jun 7, 2011 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
Harris will not play football and basketball
The topic of football was brought up by a reporter last night and a lot of journalists ran with the hypothetical. IF he was to play one, you can almost guarantee he wouldnt play the other. But he’ll play basketball. You can count on it.
But it’s pretty amazing the way the tides are changing. Purdue’s momentum is coinciding quite well with Louisville’s staff change and IU’s mess of a scholarship situation. At the least you can really start identifying a solid case for him to pick Purdue, and the planets seem to be aligning more each week.
But we have been through this many o’ times and know what it’s like to have our dreams crashed. But at this point, it will be a win – win (provided he doesn’t go down south).
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Speaking of win/win.....
If the reports are accurate, PB will get to remain a Boiler and a D1 athlete with 2 more years of school paid for. Let’s face it, there was very little chance of him contributing in Bball. Obviously, this helps Matty’s scholly situation and he is on a recruiting roll. And, who knows, he may end up being a solid football player. It looks like Coach Painter, Coach Hope and Patrick found a way to make lemonade.
by Hummel's figurines on Jun 7, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
....also...
We’ve found away to deflect the “creaning” accusations that IU fans have had loaded in barrel since he got the RJ commitment. Obviously it’s inevitable that it will happen at some point, but at least we can hold it off for another season.
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Like I said in the post about Ronnie Johnson's "near perfect game"
Every week their is news.
And it is always good news. Today has been a flurry of good news. With Ronnie Johnson getting a ton of attention, Gary Harris Sr. openly saying that Purdue is still a strong contender, Terrelle Pryor skipping his senior season at OSU, and now Patrick Bade playing football instead of basketball.
I think this is a great switch for him. He’s going to be big for a tight end at 6’ 8" and I don’t think I’ve ever seen him shy away from contact
It all fits.
My guess is that Painter knew this would happen after talking to Bade.
by Jackson Brunner on Jun 8, 2011 12:50 AM EDT reply actions
Best of Luck
I always was for Bade getting more minutes. I felt that he just couldn’t handle all the pressure placed on him this year. Especially with Rob going down and all of the talk from summer and fall. I feel he would have been a great role player in this upcoming season but I guess we will never know. If I can get my hands on a Bade football jersey though that would be sweet.
Boiler Up
Damn.
I thought that having Bade taking up a basketball scholarship at Purdue was the most devious and successful part of the A-HOPE/Indiana Elite/Adams/Crean/Duany Conspiracy of Evil.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jun 8, 2011 9:20 AM EDT reply actions
Would this indicate a fork in the pipeline?
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by sea.of.white on Jun 8, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he can walk on for bball
I’m not sure of the rules, but someone on GBI posted that Bade would be unable to walk on for basketball since he had previously been on a bball scholarship.
Good luck Bade
I’ve also haven’t given up on Bade. I always maintain that we should give the kid a chance and don’t throw him under the bus. I was hoping he would provide some necesssary toughness to our otherwise guard-heavy lineup.
Although his performance is below expectation, the kid did show a willingness to work hard. I hope he becomes the Antonio Gates for our football team, and then give a boost to our basketball team frontcourt during the B1G / NCAA run as a walk-on.
Good for Bade...
At the very least, I’m happy for Bade that he will be able to continue his education with full scholarship from Purdue University.
Like many of you, I felt that Bade wasn’t quite panning out on the hardcourt. I was then conflicted with the desire that somehow the scholarship situation would be resolved (likely by him not being on the team) to clear up room for another more promising player, but at the same time hoping that Purdue wouldn’t adopt the sort of athletics-first mindset of other universities [IU] and force him out.
So I’m happy that Bade will still be “taken care of” by the university. Whether he plays a down of football or not, he retains his scholarship and can obtain the education that he would likely have fully needed as it didn’t look like the NBA was in his future. And if he turns out to be the TE that was so highly recruited, all that’s just gravy — for him and for us.
There are a lot of ugly ways this scholarship situation could have played out. It reflects well on Purdue that those did not happen.
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What’s your evidence that Bobby Capobianco, who averaged 6 minutes per game while competing for minutes with Tom Pritchard and Derek Elston and would have spent his last two years competing for minutes with those guys plus Cody Zeller and Hanner Perea and Peter Jurkin, was “forced out”? Obviously, we’ll never know exactly what happened, but I don’t quite understand why it’s so implausible to you that Capo might have wanted to spend his last couple of years as a competitive athlete earning meaningful minutes somewhere. A related question would be how you know that Bade actually wants to play football and isn’t being forced into this because he has no better football or basketball option.
I tend to think that both guys saw the writing on the wall (and probably had frank discussion with their coaches at year-end meetings) and realized that if they hadn’t yet earned meaningful roles, it probably wasn’t going to happen. But I’m curious why it’s so obvious that IU is taking an athletics-first course of action while Purdue is doing the Lord’s work.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jun 8, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You beat me to it...
but I think John M makes some very valid points in which I am in total agreement. We don’t know what conversations took place between the player and coach. I tend to agree that both players probably saw the writing on the wall and decided to put themselves in situations where they could meet their own expectations. Bade obviously had opportunities to play football and perhaps he wants to see if there is a better future in football than basketball. Capo probably realized he’d only see mop up minutes and wanted a chance to play more meaningful minutes. I truly believe that both coaches probably do the same thing each year. Sit down with every player and evaluate the previous year and set realistic expectations for the upcoming year. In this case, both players didn’t like the situations and chose different routes. I’d say both players had more than fair chances to earn their playing time and simply didn’t. Bade is a hard worker but maybe he is better suited for football. I wish him the best and hope he flourishes on the football field. He seems like a great young man who was put into a tough situation at a young age. I still think he could be a contributor on the basketball team but I don’t blame him one bit for making the chance (assuming this is all true).
Frees up a scholarship....
..and he was NOT progressing at all.
Good luck on the football field, but this is a good day for the basketball program.
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Yes, but...
it only helps us out in 2012. We are now at the 13 threshold for the 2012 season but we are still oversigned by 1 for the 2013 class.
He was also a kicker in high school...
but don’t worry Carson! lol
by jffiv on Jun 8, 2011 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Kip Jones
Back in the late 80s Kip Jones signed on to the football team after his basketball time was up. I recall he did block a field goal or extra point. But that’s all I recall from his football career.
by GoB1g10 on Jun 8, 2011 11:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Does Carroll play football too???
Or golf? Or tennis?
I hope Carroll doesn't leave ...
Otherwise we’ll have no bigs left except for Sandi.
In fact, I expect a big jump in Carroll’s production. Book it! :-)
The better question is...
Does Sandi play football too? Or soccer? Or table tennis?
Sandi does play soccer
I have a friend who was in his comm. class in the spring. He mentioned how Sandi talked about liking soccer. We weren’t sure what position he’d be well suited for (our final guess was he was a goalie).





















