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Corruption at Indiana Elite/2012 IU Recruit Perea?
by boiler_nuke on May 26, 2011 1:56 PM EDT
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First time poster, (Hello,world!) long time lurker. Reading an article on espn.com about possible improprieties at Indiana Elite (whoulda thunk it?) and their seemingly a little too close for comfort relationship w/ that school down south. Curious as to what you all think.
I can't say I'm surprised, although I also feel it fair to reserve judgment like I would if this were another school and not our for real Most Hated Rival. Makes you wonder if Clappy has succumbed to the pressure of big time expectations, or if this is just another example of ESPN muckraking.
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The Adams Family.....
scary bunch……
Crean had the cajones to insinuate Purdue had something to do with this article. Can you say Paranoid???
I think he was insinuating Baylor
as they threatened to have Hanner deported if he committed elsewhere.
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mentioned both Purdue and Baylor but....
Yeah, that whole threatened deportation thing was pure thuggery, and if I was Crean (or anyone associated with Perea) I’d be serious ticked off too.
Tell Me...
what is the difference between threatening a kid with deportation (Baylor) and hanging a kid out to dry on their own if they don’t listen to their American Daddy? (Adams)? Both are exploiting the most vulnerable and least protected. If only Adams can find a way to deport those kids who refuse to play his way without casting light on the sham he’s operating……
by ZoKnowsDefense on May 26, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose
I find myself wanting to believe this Adams guy simply because his organization COULD be a great thing, but then the question arises: why only help potential basketball players?
Even if this whole thing is crooked I’d like to think the kids get something out of it (American education) but when you consider the sacrifices hey make, leaving family behind, etc. how many of them become victimized in the process?
It seems to me...
The more damning connection seems to be the connection between the timing of Adams’ son’s hiring and the commitment of the Indiana Elite recruits. As far as Perea, I think his potential ineligibility has been a known possibility for awhile. If I was an IU fan, I would be much more worried about the IE issues than the AHOPE issues. Also, interesting that the son has now left IU!!
his son left IU for a better job at New Mexico a month ago
and was initially hired on as a peon and worked his way up to head of operations.
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HMMM
It seems a little fishy, but keep in mind when IU hired Drew Adams it wasn’t against NCAA rules. That kind of thing happened pretty frequently before the NCAA made the rule you can’t recruit players that have been coached by someone on your staff in the last 3 years. I think the Elite coaches prefer IU, but I don’t see IU giving them benefits so really IU is probably fine in all of this. The real issue is (as this comes out) that good players are going to avoid the Elite AAU program.
Read...
JohnM’s piece at Crimson Quarry.
As he eluded to, this team has had many players go to different schools. Bade, Byrd, and Jackson all played. Despite our hating of IU, this piece is one sided and singles IU out. This is nothing new, right or wrong.
http://enginerdknows.blogspot.com
also check out Dustin Dopirak's twitter feed
he’s already talked to Adams since the article was released.
http://twitter.com/#!/DustinDopirak
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"Yeah, the whole thing smells.''
how do you run a nonprofit organization whose mission is to "Facilitate African student athletes study in the U.S., but whose financial ability would otherwise make it impossible.’’ yet only spend $68 on schooling. That is less then 0.1% of the organizations total expenses.
mostly because they attend private schools
where they attend as under privileged/unable to pay, which usually means no cost to the student.
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I hate
that clappy implied that Purdue was giving Espn info about IU. total bull, crean has had zero success against purdue so why does he think painter has nothing better to do then to try and get iu into trouble? Really lowers my opinion on crean (not that it was high in the 1st place)
We shall see
They don’t have quite the amount of talent that they will have when 2012 – 2013 rolls around.
Maybe they just need mediocre coaching?
Shoe Companies
I think it’s the shoe companies that are ultimately to blame for the corruption in AAU basketball.
“In fact, it is brilliant. [Mike] Barnett works for Adidas. His son is going to Indiana as a walk-on. The other guy’s son [Drew Adams] is video coordinator or something [at Indiana before leaving for New Mexico]. And Adidas can pay Indiana Elite good money to get good players and do whatever they do — house them, feed them, travel with them.’’
What is the common connection between Indiana Elite and IU, besides being in Bloomington, Adidas. Who’s to say that Adidas isn’t pressuring Indiana Elite, or rewarding them, to steer players towards IU. IU is an Adidas school and I’m sure it is killing Adidas when IU is terrible. I’m sure they are dying for IU to return back to its glory days and they would like to do nothing more than to assure that top level talent is heading back to IU. End of the day….CREAM (Cash Rules Everything Around Me). Someones got to fund these AAU teams and the only reason shoe companies do it is for potential gains in the future, call it a marketing expense.
Please read
They played their hearts out, if you want to see just how shitty people can be to potential recruits. Real depressing stuff, but eye opening.
Suffice to say that I'm happy Purdue has nothing to do with it
Whether the allegation about Perea is true, I think this quote from a former African kid whom Mark Adams brought to the U.S. reflects the situation accurately,
“I’ll be honest, if you come here for any type of reason, it is definitely a better opportunity than staying in Africa doing basically nothing. So if [Adams] says that he is bringing kids here to give them an opportunity, it is true. Everyone in Africa dreams to come here. … He is helping a lot of kids, don’t get me wrong. *But at the end of the day, if you don’t listen to what he says, you are on your own. And if you are on your own and don’t have family here, it is going to be difficult. It is going to be really hard for you.*”
So in a perfect world, I think Adams is doing these kids a service by giving them the opportunity out of poverty, and doing the colleges he associated with by bringing them the talent. It’s win-win. In an imperfect NCAA world, it is somewhat shady.
From reading the article
It doesn’t appear IU did anything illegal. Unethical, yes. The grey area here is so gray that it is black.
by PurdueBoiler1995 on May 26, 2011 5:06 PM EDT reply actions
The article was a smear piece...
Plain and simple. To suggest a recruiting rival in Baylor (im sure you all know the story behind that) and Purdue (whom we are taking Indiana recruits from and you guys know it) not necessarily their head coaches are feeding this “journalist” “info” isnt too far off. Come on, take your Boiler blinders off. You dont think there would be anyone in your athletic department capable of something like that, or someone at IU’s capable of doing it to you guys? Not Crean or Painter but a worker?
Simply put... No
I work in an athletic department. Not Purdue’s, but I can tell you right now that an athletic department as a whole would want nothing to do with this situation. Even if they are rivals. Purdue has owned IU lately, and has a top 10 class in 2012 and probably the #1 class in 2013. Starting some kind of smear war or what not would have repercussions.Purdue isn’t going to risk its position as a top program in the country just because the second best team in the state is closing ground.
by OldSchoolStyle on May 28, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats a valid point as well...
But the piece was a smear campaign, with or without Crean’s comments. Even a Purdue, UK ILL fan has to realize that
by IU on May 28, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
No dispute there.
It certainly was an untactful smear piece, but to accuse Purdue is foolish in my opinion. Sometimes as fans we get caught up in the rivalry, but Purdue is concerned about more than just one in-state rival.
by OldSchoolStyle on May 28, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes I agree
You want to in a NC more than you want to mess around with IU, I agree. If hardened Purdue fans agree with me on its a smear piece then Im sure you could imagine how I view it
by IU on May 29, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
What a hypocrite!!
1) To call the ESPN article a smear piece and then himself smearing by implying someone in the Purdue athletic dept is responsible for it.
2) When attacked, instead of addressing the fallacy, they cry like whining babies “It’s a smear piece.” Maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger should try this tactic too. In his heavy Aussie accent, the Governator said, “What child? It’s a smear piece. Come on, take your blinders off. You don’t think there would be anyone in the newspaper industry capable of something like that?”
3) I guess it is just a reflection of the quality of IU fans. Blame, blame, blame, always blame first.
I think that..
You will find much disagreement of your comment even from your own fan base. We can argue the merits of Crean’s comments all we want and the dividing line will be clear on who feels what about what Crean had to say, but the major bulk of the article was a smear piece.
The author got many facts wrong and has in fact edited the piece several times since it has been published, ESPN took it off its front page after only 1 hour, only one other sports new agency has even acknowledged the existence of this work and Sportsline did it very modestly (posit that with the major news coverage of the OSU situation for instance). ESPN never put this on their broadcast network (again posit it with the OSU situation). This should tell you a little something about the article.
Im sure you hate IU and why wouldnt you but try to keep some common sense about you and if you are going to claim it to be true and defend the article, do a little research first and you will find a lot of holes and innuendo in it.
That's exactly the kind of attitude!
Just like Dwayne Wade when he whines when the world is happier because Miami Heat lost. It’s a self-proclaiming us-against-world. The world hates us. Everyone is plotting against us. It’s a smear campaign. Blah blah blah.
No, I don’t “hate” IU, but I hate your kind of hypocritical and whiny attitude. If you call the ESPN article meritless (which for the most part maybe you have a point given how it got took off), then your own implication that maybe someone from our own athletic department would do that is even worse than meritless! It’s utter baseless – at least the ESPN article would provide some evidence and at least attempt to talk to someone inside, but yours is complete fabrication and out of your own creative imagination.
Of course you are not a journalist so I can’t subject you to the same kind of scrutiny a national well-established website should follow. But your “smearing” of Purdue’s athletic department while whining about someone else smearing IU is just hypocritical. It seems that your mode of reasoning is, “If something goes wrong with IU, it must be Purdue’s fault. If someone in IU breaks a leg, it must be Purdue’s fault. If IU sucks, it must be Purdue’s fault. If IU is full of whiny people, it must be Purdue’s fault. If IU students can’t think, it must be Purdue’s fault.”
I think the funniest part
Is that the article is really more of an indictment of Mark and Drew Adams – less so of Crean and IU. Yeah, there are some ties, but I’d rather read about this now when something seems fishy, than 5 years after the fact when the damage is done. Yet many of the IU fans act like it was a smear piece against Crean’s mother.
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by sea.of.white on May 29, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously?
as if Purdue needs to do anything for IU’s name to be drug through the mud? No action necessary – just sit back and watch.
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
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by sea.of.white on May 29, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
And very well deserved, good sir.
by Jackson Brunner on May 30, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes I agree
You want to in a NC more than you want to mess around with IU, I agree. If hardened Purdue fans agree with me on its a smear piece then Im sure you could imagine how I view it
I tend to think that there is something fishy with the Indiana Elite/A-HOPE/IU connection...
but I just don’t know whether or not it is a violation of any NCAA rules… The article he wrote was a stretch in some parts… but I would worry a little about that Hanner kid’s eligibility if it is true that he was having things paid for…
Boiler Up! Hammer Down!
by JuJuan some Moore? on May 29, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I am..
Worried about Hanner’s eligibility, not whether Crean/IU broke any NCAA rules
by IU on May 29, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Interview with Mike Fish
http://www.1070thefan.com/podcast/Episodes.aspx?PID=1632
Very interesting stuff here. Indy’s The Fan did an interview with Mike Fish that is quite combative and illuminating. It was also unaired. Wonder why?
The radio host keeps coming at him about what this can possibly have to do with IU and his response is basically 1) Hanner Parea may not be eligible, and 2) the timeline of hiring the IE coach’s son to staff and all of the IE players heading to IU is problematic. He specifically debunks the whole ‘only two A-HOPE players have gone to IU’ and ‘IE players go to lots of schools’ as irrelevent. It’s beside the point of the timeline of the hiring of the Adams kid and getting the recruits, which he points out is actually somewhat of a pattern. Whenever this kid gets a job at a school certain players – not all – are pushed to go there by Adams. How is this not something that would anger IU fans, who have just gone through the consequences of having a cheater as a coach? Is this pathological rationalization at work?
Again, IU may not get in trouble simply because the evidence might not be material enough, but shouldn’t the whole ‘hire AAU coach’s son,’ ‘get AAU coach’s best players,’ ‘AAU coach’s son leaves just before story comes out’ be enough to get some anger directed toward the compliance office and Crean instead of merely at the messenger? I should also mention that Fish says he asked IU’s compliance office about all of this stuff and what they knew and they refused to answer. Doesn’t sound like a situation where they had already okayed it with the NCAA to me.
If the link doesn’t work you can get it over at ITH or just go to the 1070 the Fan site, click on podcasts in the top right ‘Features’ menu, click on ‘The Ride with JMV’, and scroll down to the interview with Mike Fish.
except everything you just said is not true.
Drew Adams was qualified for the initial position he was hired for in 2009. He received promotions as guys ahead of him left and he excelled at his job. Then he was offered more money and responsibility at New Mexico and left for that.
Tijan Jobe is the only A-HOPE player to attend IU before this recent flurry of commitments. Cody Zeller was an Indiana Elite team member. Austin Etherington committed and then switched over to IE. Yogi, Hollowell, Patterson all switched over to IE after committing. Perea was a near lock for Baylor until he had second guesses and they threatened to have him deported. Jurkin was already a part of IE when he committed. Hartman was IE but then changed teams. Devin Davis has always been with EG10. There are a ton of holes in the argument ‘hire AAU caoch’s son,’ ‘get AAU coach’s best players,’ ‘AAU coach’s son leaves just before story comes out’.
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hell if anything
this run’s the opposite direction. You’d think Mark Adams is paying off IU to get them to recruit for Indiana Elite.
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I agree that Fish is likely fishing, and that IU probably committed no violations. What I don’t understand is that Fish, an outside observer, seems to have smelled the smoke of the Adams hire, the Hanner turn-around, and all the IE players now committed to IU – and says he finds evidence of this happening before, but just not with IU (i.e. Adams seems to have pushed different schools based on where his son worked, or who knows why, but he or the Barnett guy were said to have pushed players) – but IU fans who should be ultra-sensitive to this sort of thing want to dismiss it as the work of Fish’s imagination. Sampson destroyed your program after IU nation looked the other way, and you said you’d sure have your eyes open for the next guy, right?
Crean’s done two major things to (we think) get IU back on the map – developed the ‘relationships’ to get this pipeline from IE, and started somewhat of a dirty (IMO) recruiting war in the state over who can sign a 14 yr old the quickest. Both of these things aren’t illegal, but they are representative of the shady side of college basketball from wence the really illegal stuff comes from.
Before IU reached recruiting nirvana with the Zeller pickup, I kept hearing how great of a fit Crean was because he sure wouldn’t do anything approaching what Sampson did. Well I’ve got news for you, Sampson wasn’t putting money in paper bags – he was building relationships. Eventually he slipped over the line on a materially minor thing, but was so bought in to his “relationship building” that he couldn’t stop himself. But of course, nothing to see hear with Crean.
Well, I just realized I’ve wasted a lot of time on something I shouldn’t care much about. I’m just a little amused how quickly it went from ‘At least Crean has a lot more class than Sampson’ to ‘At least Crean stuck to the letter of the law’. Selah.
tough to draw comparissons....
… even with ND football – and you know how we like to do that. Willingham, Weis, and now Kelley were each anointed as savior of the program. Trouble was – Charlie and Tyrone didn’t produce. IU fans seem to be less critical, at least so far.
I think it’s more so that the whole Kelvin Sampson thing gave the University such a black eye, that they’ll bob-and-weave as much as they need to avoid that scenario.
So no, the loyalty lies with IU, and Tom Crean is a part of IU – the two are not mutually exclusive. So their fans won’t be hanging him out to dry any time soon. Especially on this issue, which again is less of an indictment of IU than it is for IE/Adams. But still, tough to get angry at Adams, I mean c’mon – he was on Crean’s staff (who’s in the club, as previously noted), and did a hell of a job at something that he’s totally qualified for (AJ, was Adams reporting to you or something? You seem to be super familiar with his job qualifications / performance…). Plus he’s now working for IU icon Steve Alford – so still in the good graces. And IE….. how can they be mad at IE? Because Hanner.
So to recap:
-Can’t be mad a Crean
-Can’t be mad at Adams
-Can’t be mad at IE
thus, it must be a witch hunt. A pack of lies. Must be mad at Fish. Fish is not IU. Fish is not Adams. Fish is not IE. Fish is the bad guy.
So until you find Crean in the back alley with the smoking Blackberry in his hand…..
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no but his qualifications have been poured over by the likes of Dustin Dopirak
and other media members much closer to the situation. It isn’t a pack of lies but it is a pack of half truths and spin to make a known scenario for years into something it is not.
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Drew Adams had a resume that was appropriate for the position. He was from Bloomington, played on a state championship team at Bloomington South, played junior college ball, walked on for a year at Iowa, and spent two years at Tennessee as a student assistant coach. Did his dad’s connections grease the skids for him? Probably. But at the time IU hired him, his resume was perfectly appropriate for the job of video coordinator. I think it’s important to realize that that’s all he was. While he had the “director of operations” title, it;s important to realize that IU has an associate athletic director of basketball administration (Jarryd Grossman is his name, I think) who does much of what the DBO does in a typical basketball program hierarchy.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jun 2, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
but there isn't a "pipeline"
most of the kids that come from IE to IU move there AFTER committing. So your claim of AAU relationships is full of holes.
I don’t see how it is dirty to recruit an obviously good kid young. Foolish maybe (see Purdue 2011) but far from dirty.
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Pipeline
It’s been a few days since I read the article so I could be forgetting pieces of it but I don’t think Fish is claiming that IE has been a pipleine for IU recruits. I think he is trying to make a correlation between the hiring of Drew Adams and the signing of the 5 players in 2012 class. I realize that some of the recruits didn’t play for IE before signing but it is a bid odd that they all played with IE afterwards. Either Adams is involved or IU is telling the recruits they should all play together. Perhaps the players just decided to get together on their own but I’m guessing someone facilitated it, most likely, Drew Adams. But, I’ve said it before, I don’t think IU is involved in any wrong doing. Do I think it is shady to hire a AAU coach with ties to a bunch of really good players…yes. Was it illegal at the time…no. Does it looks suspicious that Adams left so suddenly…yes. Was it perhaps just coincidence…perhaps. I don’t know what authority the NCAA has in regulating AAU basketball but I think there needs to be something in place that restricts AAU coaches from being involved with non-profit orginzations like A-HOPE. I just think it is a conflict on interest when the coach of the team is able to use his own money to pay for these athletes because it is done through the non-profit. It is against NCAA regulations for a coach to pay for athletes expenses so why should he be able to do it just because it is through a non-profit, it is still the coaches money. His intentions may be nobel but something feels sleazy about it.
I don’t understand the accusation that Adams left “suddenly.” He left in early May, a time when coaching staff changes still are going on, and took a position with more responsibility and more money. Most job changes in the coaching profession are “sudden.” One day you’re employed at school A, the next day at school B. And to what possible advantage would it be for IU, Indiana Elite, or Adams for him to change jobs? The NCAA knows the way to New Mexico. His resignation wouldn’t change anything.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jun 2, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
along with money and responsibility
comes the chance to work with former coach that gave him the walk on opportunity at Iowa, Steve Alford.
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That’s just what the article stated. It claims that he left IU when the questions starting coming his way. I’m sure New Mexico is a better job for himself and it is completely reasonable but the article just questions the timing of the move. Again, read what I wrote. I’m not blaming IU for anything. I’ve said it all along. The only thing I really question in all of this is the role of Mark Adams with IE and A-Hope. IU fans don’t need to be so defensive, IU has done nothing wrong.
Well, yeah, that’s what the article says, but that strikes me as self-serving sensationalism. The only person asking questions was Mike Fish during his “five month investigation.” Three of the months in which the investigation occurred (March/April/May) are the months in which probably more than 90 percent of college basketball staffing changes occur.
As for the defensiveness, did you see the artwork that accompanied the ESPN story? I would say that’s reason enough for defensiveness.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jun 2, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
thank you for bringing up the artwork
It made ME feel uncomfortable, and I’ve got no connection to the alleged “misgivings”, of this so-called “5-month investigation” by this supposed Mike Fish", if that’s his real name.
I mean the look on Adams face – so direct, so piercing, yet somewhat smug – as if to say, “What rules? We’re Indiana Elite, Mofo.”
Then Crean…. well, I mean look at him! It’s really more so about what they are NOT showing vs, what they are….. do you follow me? Yeah, exactly – HE’S NOT CLAPPING! Crean clapping = good times are here again, dust off the banners. Crean not clapping = accusations, shadiness, wrongdoing. It’s just all bad. Look how shifty his eyes look!
Then you’ve got Hanner – I mean, HOW DARE THEY SHOW A DEPICTION OF HANNER! They might as well have put the Prophet Mohammad in there.
Just makes me want to throw up with defensiveness.
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by sea.of.white on Jun 2, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
you think it's strange that 5 high ranking recruits in the same state elected to play AAU together?
so if they were on EG10 instead of IE would EG10 be a dirty program?
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Never Said Dirty
I never once said that IE was a dirty program. I said I though it was odd that all of a sudden all of these players decided to get together and play for IE once they signed with IU but I never said it was a dirty program. But let me ask you this…why did they choose IE over other AAU programs? Clearly IE has ties to IU. Is there something there? Again, perhaps it is just coincidence. I don’t really know and I’m just trying to spurn on conversation. This is a really boring time of year and it is nice to have something to talk about. In the end, I think IU is clean of any wrong doing and the only thing that could be against NCAA regulations is the relationship of Hanner Perea and Mark Adams.
If you have followed the coverage of recruiting over the last couple of years, it seems pretty likely that yes, they are kids who are friends and who wanted to play together. Austin Etherington, who was the first to commit, has done a lot of recruiting on behalf of IU.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jun 2, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
What do you mean by "Foolish maybe (see Purdue 2011)"?
Can you pls elaborate?
Purdue's 2011 class are all early commits
that looked like a pretty good class when verballed but are now a below average class for a Big Ten school because of injuries and a slow in their development.
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All???
Like all TWO of them? Lawson committed last September… not really early. Hale committed the summer before his senior year and then attended prep school last season. Hardly early recruits?
2012
I assume he meant the 2012 class. Which if that is the case, he is correct that they all signed rather early. In fact, some would point out that Purdue started the trend when they signed Rapheal Davis when he was a freshman, long before IU signed their young players. Signing players as freshman and sophomores is a risky business but it is a great way to create momentum in recruiting and gain a competitive advantage.
definitely a double edged sword
I was under the impression that Hale signed at the end of his junior year. Incorrect information on my part.
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verballed**
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2012 Class Looking Fine
The funny thing is that those early recruits in the 2012 class look like they’ll be fine for the most part. It was just ranked a top 10 class by Rivals (with You Know Who at #1).
2 things
1. Will You Know Who still get You Know Who
2. Can we get Gary Harris?
Those 2 things could change things up a bit…
Gary
I still think IU will probably be #1 even if Purdue does land Gary Harris, but Purdue would probably move into top 5 territory.
Neither IU’s compliance office nor anyone else associated with IU, including Tom Crean, can comment to the media about Hanner Perea because he isn’t signed. Despite his verbal commitment, at this point he is simply an unsigned recruit. Mike Fish either doesn’t know that or he does. Neither interpretation is flattering.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jun 1, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Thought this was a funny pic
(Can’t use .jpg? – here’s the url:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/ahopes.jpg/)
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