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Back To Detroit: Purdue To Face Western Michigan in Little Caesar’s Pizza Bowl

You enter the season hoping to feel the southern California sunshine on your face on New Year's Day. I've been there, and it is even more awesome than it sounds. With the rest of the Big Ten Bowl tie-ins, there is always a good chance you feel Texas, Arizona, or Florida sunshine if you can't make it to California. Then there is Detroit, the last bowl in the pecking order. It has been affiliated with the conference for years, but only twice have there been enough teams eligible from the Big Ten to go there. Northwestern went in 2003, mostly because they had to. In 2007, it was our turn. In other years, it is usually filled by a bowl eligible Sun Belt team just to fill the spot.

Because of its status of being the only bowl game where the Big Ten is set to face the MAC, it is viewed with a lot of scorn among the fans of the conference. Being sent to Detroit is almost a threat. It means you weren't bad enough to fall out of the bowl picture, but you weren't good enough to really be a threat to anyone. The fact it comes against the MAC, a conference that everyone in the Big Ten uses as schedule fodder to get to bowl eligibility (and away from Detroit) means that doesn't even feel like a special trip. Instead, it feels like a game being played on the third weekend of September before conference play begins. Like then, little good can come out of it in terms of national perception. Win it, and you did what was expected. Lose it, and you become the laughingstock of the conference.

Tonight, we became the first Big Ten team to be sent to Detroit twice.


Any opportunity to reference Kentucky Fried Movie's A Fistful of Yen is a good one.

Star-divide

I know that this is a bowl game looked upon with a ton of disdain, but when we couldn't even make it this far since going in 2007, it is a very small step forward. We can do one of two things. We can moan about it like Dorien Bryant did four years ago, or we can use it as a chance to get some extra practice, get some game experience, and build for the future. Nearly everyone else in the conference has had the advantage of extra practice and growth in the last four seasons, so we can finally get on an equal footing with even the middle tier of the conference.

It is also another chance to play football on national TV, and a chance to win another game. Let's face it, winning a game against a MAC team is not a gimme for us anymore. We need to prove we can win these type of games before moving up in the conference. Our opponent will be the Western Michigan Broncos, a team that was 7-5 overall and 5-3 in the MAC. They were even midlevel for a MAC team, so it should be an opponent we can beat.

We have two common opponents with WMU. We both lost to Michigan, but they lost 23-20 to Illinois while we defeated the Fighting Illini. They have an offense that can put up some points, as they dropped 68 on Akron in their last game and lost 66-63 to Toledo. They have a win over a BCS conference team in Connecticut. Alex Carder is your typical mad bomber of a MAC quarterback with 3,251 yards and 28 touchdowns against only nine interceptions. That was all done in ten games too, as he didn't play against Akron or Michigan. Jordan White is statistically one of the best receivers in the country with 127 catches for 1,527 yards and 16 touchdowns.

Historically, we have played Western Michigan twice, beating them both in 1993 and 2002. I remember the 2002 game as an ugly 28-24 win with a metric crapload of turnovers by us because we were in the middle of a stretch where it seemed like every carry resulted in a fumble. Montrell Lowe could have finished his career as Purdue's all-time leading rusher, but lost his starting job in this game because of multiple fumbles.

So that's the bowl game. It is what it is. It's not some sexy matchup in a warm locale. Instead, we're in a bowl mostly because the Big Ten did the work of setting up this connection for us, and it results in a game against the type of opponent we need to learn how to dominate again. I, for one, plan to enjoy the chance at seeing another football game this season and a chance to build some momentum for the future. With Ralph Bolden officially tearing his ACL yet again we'll get to see what Akeem Hunt has. We'll see what happens in three and a half weeks.

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Guarenteed to piss off the average fan, and to make sure Danny Hope will lose to a MAC team every year.

by Strawmy on Dec 4, 2011 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

if we lose...

is Hope out?

"The goal remains the same"

by TimeToPlayHard on Dec 4, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

If Purdue attendence is poor and we lose by 30

Maybe, but doubtful.

WMU runs their offense as efficient as anybody, and will have as much a homefield advantage as us being only 2 and a half hours away. Burke might take that as ‘oh well, it just wasn’t the right set of circumstances, blah, blah, blah’.

by Strawmy on Dec 4, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope

Burke won’t can him. If past behavior is the best predictor of future performance, Hope is safe for now, at least. Whether or not Hope SHOULD be out is the discussion that never ends.

by One of these days on Dec 5, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Hahaha. Classified as a “sports lounge”.

by Sasquatchcc on Dec 5, 2011 1:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I thought he wasn't at the IU game due to a concussion

I would assume he could play in the bowl

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by babaoreally on Dec 4, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't travel to Bloomington due to a concussion.

And Hunt ran for 100 yards on 10 carries and looked great during the 18 carries he had prior mainly versus SEMO and Notre Dame so it’s assumed they’ll stick with the hot hand. Shavers has done very little down the stretch after a decent start

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by Bryan Steedman on Dec 5, 2011 7:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd give Mostert some carries, too. Too talented to just leave on kick offs.

And WM’s run defense was near the bottom of the MAC. Will we exploit that? Who knows. I think if we get in a shoot out and abandon the run, we lose this game. It’s going to be about how our defense does against their passing attack.

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by carmen_fanzone on Dec 5, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Curious what will happen with Mostert on offense down the line considering he was recruited and brought in as a WR but his limited offensive touches have all been from the backfield

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by Bryan Steedman on Dec 5, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

i would like to go...

But I have 0 days of vacation left… Not worth 2 unpaid days for me… I’ll be sure to keep some days back next year for Pasadena… lol

Boiler Up! Hammer Down!

by JuJuan some Moore? on Dec 4, 2011 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

Me too!

I am also out of vacation days. I could call in sick, but it would be way too obvious!

by hoffdaddy83 on Dec 5, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Big ten bowl locations

3 Florida
2 So. Cal.
2 Texas
1 Arizona
1 Louisiana
1 Michigan

One of these is not like the others.

by Strawmy on Dec 4, 2011 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

Good for the kids

Nice to see the seniors get to experience a bowl at least once in their careers. The younger guys can compare their Detroit vacation to what they see on TV the rest of the bowl season and maybe come back a little hungrier next summer.

My biggest wish, though, if for Danny Hope and his band of wizards to stay the hell out of the way and let these kids utilize their talents. Put a solid game plan together that leverages our strengths and defends our weaknesses. Leave the trickeration on the shelf. Resist the temptation to fool everyone with your secret 7-man football offense from West Texas. Don’t try to guess when WMU is gonna quick kick on 1st down and put the return team in.

Name Sean Matti and Keith Smith game captains. Build a nice lead early. Give everyone a chance to play. Play with pride. Let Wiggy try one from Ann Arbor. Start a new bowl win streak. Then get on the bus and start working on next year.

Boiler UP!!

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Dec 4, 2011 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

"Make Sean Matti and Keith Smith game captains"

This is brilliant. Especially the Smith one. Fkin NCAA bureaucrats.

"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"

by Boiler Bandsman on Dec 4, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope Bolden gets his degree and moves on – not meant to be

by BoilerRick on Dec 4, 2011 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

Yes

To the frozen tundra we go. My primary memory of the 2007 bowl is tailgating in the freezing parking garage tossing around a beer can coozie because we forgot to bring a football and needed to stay warm.

by scruffy_p on Dec 4, 2011 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

Sucess

For those of you who considered this year a success- have fun tailgating in the parking garage in sub zero weather-
How many more of these do have to “enjoy” with Hopeless

by BoilerRick on Dec 4, 2011 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

Well considering this is the only bowl game I can actually go to...

and I’m a diehard Purdue fan, me and my best friends are going up and I WILL enjoy it.

http://theboilermaker.blogspot.com/

by Bryan Steedman on Dec 5, 2011 7:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Total Rumor!!

My fiancé lives next door to a guy who works as an accountant at Purdue. He said that Hope gets fired after the bowl game and that they already have Sumlin and just need to announce they got him. Complete rumor, but it got me excited as a Purdue fan and I wanted to share with everyone else and stir up some talk.

by BTFUWlala on Dec 5, 2011 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

Arizona State stopped looking at him pretty quick. Could have told them he found a new place…. or that he was staying in Houston. Either way ill keep my head in the clouds.

by BTFUWlala on Dec 5, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Besides,

We’re talking about a guy that is going to be courted with contracts in the $3 million range from schools with A LOT more talent, fan involvement, and press. No way on God’s green Earth that MB spends that much unless for some reason Burke leaves and Drew Brees becomes the new AD…

by Caleb Benner on Dec 5, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

and Matt Painter just offered me a scholarship

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by HawkeyeBoiler on Dec 5, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Tis the Season

This time of year, its important for all of us to believe in Christmas miracles.

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Dec 5, 2011 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

"Fire Coach Tressel?"

“I’m more worried that he will fire me!”

OSU Prez Gee – right before he fired Tressel.

ADs express their full support until they don’t. Its more PR than fact. That said, the MB quotes in the article do sound like the clueless bureaucrat who came an eyelash from blowing up the basketball program last March.

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Dec 5, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Tressel

If he wants to come to Purdue and you are the AD, will you hire him?

by charlespig on Dec 5, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Good question

Are there any tatoo parlors in WL?

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Dec 5, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends. Leaving out the show-cause penalty for a moment,

I’d hire him IF he was willing to accept that I and every member of the compliance department was going to be on his ass from day one making DAMN sure that he stayed clean. One slip-up, one mis-filed paperwork, and he’s gone. If he won’t have those conditions, then no, we don’t want his type.

"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"

by Boiler Bandsman on Dec 5, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

seems fair

To your call once more we rally....

by BoilerPaulie on Dec 6, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

It makes sense for them to wait until after the bowl game to make any official announcements

After the Painter situation, the mentality of the AD may have changed a bit.

Firing a coach mid-season isn’t fair to the coach and it isn’t fair to the players.

While I find this hard to believe, I wouldn’t say it’s completely out of question. With all of the negativity surrounding our athletics, it’s time for some positive thinking. Let’s get Sumlin!

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by Danulas on Dec 5, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

+10,000

For the Kentucky Fried Movie reference. Pure comedy genius.

by docjay0 on Dec 5, 2011 12:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Thought it was just us old farts

that loved KFM. A true classic.

……and I’m not wearing any pants.

by Bobobi on Dec 5, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

BIG JIM SLADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by BoilerTMill on Dec 5, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Parking

Depending on the weather (I realize it will be cold), there is free parking at the MGM Grand Casino parking garage. It’s about a 10 minute walk to Ford Field.

I attended the last game the Boilers played there, and look forward to cheering them on again one more time in 2011. If you haven’t been, I assure you the facilities are worth visiting; especially if other bowl games are held at college stadiums that don’t serve beer (even if it will be astronomically expensive at Ford Field).

Those of you who have the means, and are already searching for accommodations, I recommend the Dearborn Inn, located in Dearborn, MI (the Ritz is in the same city, approx. 8 minutes away; there’s a very nice Hyatt as well, and all 3 provide easy express-way access to Detroit); there are plenty of other quality establishments to choose from outside the city as well. I have not stayed at any of the hotels downtown, as I’m only 20 minutes from the city proper, but I’m sure you can find some deals online.

I’m a bit bummed, but at the same time excited, with the Boilermakers coming back to Detroit. I feel it’s good exposure for people in southeast Michigan, who are so blinded by the Green/White & Maze/Blue, that they’ve never heard of the rest of the B1G.

The silver lining: It’s indoors, there’s quality food, spirits, club-seating, and atmosphere for us fans, quality facilities for the team, and an easy trip home win-or-lose.

Cheers, and Boiler Up!

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by DetroitBoiler01 on Dec 5, 2011 12:54 AM EST reply actions  

Your signature

just entered the top spot on my “favorite things I’ve ever read on H&R” list. I’m still giggling. Well played…..

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by YMSH on Dec 5, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Boycott N.C. Game

I think we need to spread the word and boycott the National title game. I know many SEC fans will watch but this is a crock. Two teams from the same conference should never play for the national title unless one agrees to leave the conference for 10 years. If the ratings tank then the greedy TV networks won’t allow it to happen again.

by lift26 on Dec 5, 2011 2:49 AM EST reply actions  

I have no interest in watching that game anyway.

In my mind, LSU’s already won the title regardless of that game. They beat Bama already. Every Game Counts* my ass.

*Unless you’re in the SEC and ESPiN really likes you.

"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"

by Boiler Bandsman on Dec 5, 2011 3:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I only plan to watch it

If I have trouble sleeping. The first LSU-Bama game was a total yawn fest.

by One of these days on Dec 5, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Silver lining...

…I’ll be enjoying the SoCal sunshine on New Year’s Day, as I do every year.

One of the benefits of a Purdue education is the ability to get a job and live in warm places ;-)

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by Brad Warbiany on Dec 5, 2011 3:09 AM EST reply actions  

I will be in San Diego for the bowl game.

Hopefully will hit up that Purdue bar thats there.

by xBoiler on Dec 5, 2011 4:51 AM EST reply actions  

Henrys

I imagine the San Diego Alumni chapter will put something on

by rug2g on Dec 5, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure where you got your info...

…but Jordan White had 127 catches this season, not 61. Our secondary is going to have quite the test for this game. WMU has the 7th ranked offense in the nation.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/players/49618/index.html

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by carmen_fanzone on Dec 5, 2011 5:58 AM EST reply actions  

Boiler Women Take Down National Champs

Congrats to Lady Boiler hoopsters on beating Texas A & M.

by Danwesley Meyer on Dec 5, 2011 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

What am I missing?

Morgan Burke thinks Hope is moving forward (does he watch the games and see the stands?). Also Gary diNardo (BTN announcer and iconic failure as coach at IU) was pushing Danny for Big Ten coach of the year until they lost to Iowa. Coach of year compared to Hoke and MSU coaches- give me a break?

Also, having a top 30 recruiting class means you are not in the top 25 which is where you need to be even upper middle tier. And with Hope and his boys coaching a top 30 class, he can easily drag them down to top 60.

Hope said he wants an extension to help recruiting – wow

by BoilerRick on Dec 5, 2011 12:33 PM EST reply actions  

I don't see it from Hope or Burke either...

Painter’s off-season game of chicken was the ONLY time I’ve seen Burke come close to committing to something better than mediocrity and his hand was totally forced. OK, I’ll add the $110 million facilities upgrades in there as well. I would say best-case, the ceiling for a Danny Hope team is likely maybe 9-3 with a Capital One Bowl blowout loss to an SEC team and I agree our fans want more. That shouldn’t be the dream season that happens once every 7-10 years. Note, that’s not a knock on the players. I think we have some real good talent that’s limited in their guidance and they give it their all every Saturday. I agree in that we need a coach to take a top 30 class to the top 15, not drag them down to top 60. Without the AD’s buy in, though, our hands are tied. Burke is an eloquent speaker and every time I listen to him, I come away impressed, but then the actions don’t coincide with what I’ve heard.

by One of these days on Dec 5, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Burke

looks at it like this: “we made it to a bowl game and beat Illinois, Ohio State and Indiana!” Never mind that the Big Ten conference was down this year, we didn’t beat a single team with a winning record, we lost to Rice, and that Illinois and Ohio State will both have new coaches next year who probably won’t get “outcoached” by Danny Hope again.

The only reason making the pizza bowl in Detroit is progress is because we lost to a Mac team and a completely inept IU team at home the year before. Progress by Coach Hope standards, but very slow progress to any self-respecting Purdue fan who actually follows the team and believes we can have a successful football program some day. We’ll see if Coach Hope can beat a MAC team, I’d give him about a 70% chance of winning (Almost any other coach should have a 90% or better chance of winning)

by boilerg on Dec 5, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Pramatically speaking

Hope is getting another year. He has got better, faster players. I think the best we can hope for is a whole new slate of assistant coaches/ Offensive coordinator. I would be willing to give Hope one more year if we got rid of Gary Nord. (I say that because I know we are stuck with him anyways, so lets put some really smart people around him and maybe he can find some success)

by boilerrx on Dec 5, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see a Hope > Hoke argument when you consider the fact that

Hoke has very little effect on this team, regardless of what most Michigan fans or people would tell you. This is Rich Rod’s team from a personnel stand point. The offense would be the same, probably a bit better under Rich Rod as it’s regressed a bit under Hoke’s reign. The reason Rich Rod struggled to win was because of his defense, which was decimated by injuries and a horrendous DC. This year the defensive improvement has more to do with an extremely easier schedule (weaker offenses), added experience and little injuries. Rich Rod can beat Notre Dame, would of started 4-0 and with OSU having a down year I think the only game under Rich Rod that was a question mark is maybe Nebraska (even though Nebraska was horrible offensively that game).

Hoke won with Rich Rod’s guys with a team that’d most likely have the same record with Rich Rod regardless

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by Bryan Steedman on Dec 5, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

If there is a chance that a big loss will

get rid of Hope, than I half hope they get blown away by 50.

Otherwise expect the Pizza Pizza bowl to be the high water mark for Purdue FB for years to come.

by ruascott on Dec 5, 2011 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

terrible attitute

This is exactly the kind of fan sentiment we don’t want. You always want to win every game. Plus saying the pizza bowl is the high water mark after 3 seasons where we got more than our fair share of injuries is ridiculous. There is no way you can judge true potential after three years. If you don’t like Hope then fine that’s your right as a fan, but don’t ever say you want the team to lose because of it.

by boilerrob on Dec 5, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I said "half" hope

becuase it was partly in jest. But to be honest, this kind of thing happens at way too many programs. A coach has a things “trending” upward just enough to keep his job, and then continuning to be mediocre for years to come, until one day you wake up and you’ve become a permanant lower-tier program, with dwindling ticket sales and no momentum.

And once you are branded that, it becomes very difficult to ever get out of that (ask IU).

by ruascott on Dec 6, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Not everyone loves Sumlin.

This is a post on CBS Sports about the UCLA opening

>Report: UCLA eyes Kevin Sumlin and Al Golden
I am a Houston Alumni. I was at the travasty last Saturday. I am not sure why all these schools want Sumlin. I can tell you he has not one a big game at UH. His big win was the Armed Forces Bowl against Air Force two years ago. That is it. No conference championships, no big bowl games and lost to important games in and out of conference. See UCLA last year and UTEP the year before that. I like Kevin Sumlin he has pushed our program even farther than when Briles was here. I think he is a really nice guy and a good coach. Saying that, big conferences was National Championships and big money BCS bowl games wins. Getting 10 wins a season and going to the Ticket 1 bowl isn’t going to cut it. Right now in Houston that is acceptable but not for long. I want Sumlin to stay until the stadium is built and we move to a better conference whatever that might be

by BoilerRick on Dec 5, 2011 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

View from Houston fans

Here is the link to the comments of an article about Sumlin being happy at Houston. Thought some comments were interesting, especially the ones about him leaving Tiller in Wyoming to go to Minnesota. There were only 44 comments this afternoon, now 108.

http://blog.chron.com/cougars/2011/12/sumlin-im-very-happy-at-the-university-of-houston/#comments

by Schoonernight! on Dec 5, 2011 6:11 PM EST reply actions  

I doubt he’d end up in Purdue, but a lot of that talk is all crap to keep things at an ease. Remember when Urban Meyer and his wife were telling recruits and the media they loved Utah, it was their ‘home’ and they weren’t leaving? Only to leave a few weeks later for Florida

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by Bryan Steedman on Dec 5, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

As I understand it

from what I’ve heard from national guys, is that Sumlin is a shoe-in for the Texas A&M job

by ruascott on Dec 6, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

What Sports Illutgrated said about our bowl game - too funny

30. Little Caesars (Dec. 26): Western Michigan (7-5) vs. Purdue (6-6). The Broncos boast the prolific passing tandem of Alex Carder to Jordan White. The Boilers boast a quarterback who made it through the season with both legs.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/12/06/bowl-rankings/index.html#ixzz1fmH6IbAv

by BoilerRick on Dec 6, 2011 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

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