Gary Watch: 2011 - The Harris Vigil Open Thread
by John Wadas on Nov 4, 2011 7:00 PM EDT
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Gary Harris takes his final official visit tomorrow in East Lansing, and is expected to commit to a school shortly thereafter. This is big news for all four schools involved. And how do we here at H&R celebrate big news??
Dominating an open thread.
Remember, it's a scientific fact that every comment brings GH that much closer to being a Boilermaker. So hop to it!
Editorial note: I decided to publish this as a Fan Post so that it will not get buried on the front page. The early signing period runs from 11/9 to 11/16, so we could be in for a long haul.
Stuff in the FanPosts is entirely at the discretion of those that post them. They do not represent the views of Hammer & Rails, SBNation, or Purdue University in any way.
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We have all been patient. Are we ready to hear and accept his decision, whatever it may be?
BTFU!!
by mtschohl on Nov 4, 2011 7:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
What ever happens, happens
its all we can do
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by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Nov 4, 2011 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
I have mad props for Gary and his family
They ran one classy operation for the last year when things started to get really serious. I hope the kid chooses a great fit for him and he has a lot of success. Even if we don’t get him, I will still follow him closely and wish him well.
I hope he comes to PU though :)
Absolutely. Nothing but respect for Gary and family.
They conducted themselves in a way that all other recruits and their families should emulate.
Ever grateful, ever true.
I dunno about that...
This poker face thing keeps me guessing for too long, and good or bad, I’m afraid I’ll have a heart attack when he finally announces…
As a fan it sucks
But from a recruiting point of view, it was done very professionally. DId his visits, didn’t show any type of favortism through the media, and has really taken the time to think it out.
OK, I'm just joking
I like Joy Holmes’ humor, and honestly, I think the Harris family handles it much, much, much better than the Willis family.
Anyone else think he is going to wait until the last day of the signing period?
With the way his family has handled the recruiting process, I can almost see him and his family doing it just to mess with everyone for a little while longer.
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I did some research and found it made its debut during That Game In Minneapolis.
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Well now we can't have that.
Crazy Psychedelic Frog Time!
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If we get Harris
I guarantee this will make an appearance in every Open Thread of which I am in attendance.
So mostly away games or home games that conflict with something I have to do… like exams or something.
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All glory to the hypno-toad...
BTFU!
by BoilerAdam on Nov 7, 2011 12:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh god I hope not
I have to travel into the land of Meechigan tomorrow for a concert. Snow or no snow, Harris will be a Boilermaker.
I come from a land down unda
I can't help but enjoy
How rather unbiased AJ can make stories. He should be writing on a bigger stage than the idiots at the IU Star. Commendable, for a Hoosier.
I come from a land down unda
by BoilerRoo on Nov 4, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agree he writes so much better than the guys at IU Star
and waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than this idiot beyond measure:
http://www.vigilantsports.com/2011/10/14/why-gary-harris-should-go-to/
But, I can’t forgive him for least wanting Harris to come to Purdue. Come on AJ, I can understand you want Harris to go to IU, but if he doesn’t, why not come to Purdue so that we can rekindle the kind of rivalry that we had in the 80s/90s? You know, make it the top rivalry of the nation instead of Duke/UNC. And as much as I like AJ, come on, I have to say he just displays a loser’s mentality when he reveals that he doesn’t want Harris at Purdue b/c his top priority is to ensure “Purdue to be a lower rung than IU”. I mean, this just reveals how shaky his confidence is in Tom Crean. Look, with CMP as our coach, I think most of us would agree that we aren’t afraid of the IU’s “#1 recruiting class” at all b/c we know CMP can coach a better TEAM even if he may not have the best individual players.
It has nothing to do with my feelings for Crean or my confidence in his coaching
It just guarantees that IU has a more talented team for a length of time. Which if you want to win means a lot. Any Purdue fan saying that they aren’t concerned with IU’s class this coming year is kidding themselves or drinking too much of the kool-aid. You may have all the confidence in the world in Painter but he’d be at a decent disadvantage for a year or two until 2012’s project guys develop and 2013 gets a year under its belt.
You’re very misleading and twisting my words when you say my “top priority” is to have Purdue lower on the rung. Would I love for that to be true? Of course for the same reasons you all greatly enjoy beating on IU for the last 3 years. Pride. When IU is better than Purdue the world is slightly brighter and it’s much easier to talk crap.
Finally, why would I want the top talent at Purdue? What in the world would possess a fan to wish ill on his own team (which is what Harris to Purdue would be). I understand the want to have the teams competitive. I want that. But I would much prefer my side of the rivalry to be more competitive. Harris brings it close to a wash. In a similar situation (like Jeremy Hollowell) I think anyone that wanted him at IU as a Purdue fan should be certified. Are you telling me you’d prefer if Purdue didn’t get Gary Harris that you’d want your top rival IU to get him? Rather than a much less rivalish team with a respectable program like Michigan State to land him? I find that impossible to believe.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
AJ, totally disappointed at you here
I thought you on the H&R site long enough and you would get to know sth about Purdue basketball. With Gene Keady and Matt Painter, the vast majority we aren’t anywhere close to a “talented” team. This is obvious when you consider guys like Chris Kramer and Brian Cardinal are among the most beloved Purdue bball players b/c they best represent the Purdue spirit. I’m cool with having a bunch of nameless, scrappy, hard-nosed players against your so-called “#1 recruiting class”, I really do, and I am neither kidding myself or drinking. I’m sure a bunch of other true Boiler fans share similar views.
Sure, I’ve enjoyed beating IU the past several yrs, but frankly, it’s getting boring and even perhaps disappointing. When you play an opponent that you are supposed to blow away, winning doesn’t give you as much thrill while losing would just be disastrous. It’s like the US Olympics bball team. Before the Redeem Team, players hate to be on the US team b/c everyone thinks that winning is a given. And funny you mention about pride. Pride is when your team overcome great challenge and beat an opponent that no one thinks you can beat. There is no pride in stomping over a defenseless ant.
Finally, believe it or not, I actually would prefer IU to get Harris over MSU. I really do. #1, I’d prefer IN talent stays in IN. On a selfish side, that’s b/c I don’t want MSU to invade our turf, esp given they already stole Dawson. #2, at Purdue here, our goal is to win the B1G championship, unlike IU, where playing Purdue is already their Super Bowl (sorry to borrow Kelly’s words). I think Harris at MSU is a lot more dangerous than Harris at IU, b/c of the coach and b/c it really fills one of MSU’s biggest needs. So I’d rather help a weaker opponent than a stronger opponent. #3, Harris at IU might help rekindle the kind of Keady-Knight rivalry between the two schools, which only make basketball more interesting. And #4, Thanksgiving dinner is always delicious but it’s also a lot of pain b/c many times we overeat and it actually becomes a pain. I see IU adding Harris to be overeating. It disrupts their chemistry. It becomes a mess in recruiting. Ppl only see the upside (the tasty food) but never the downside (health risk). So even if IU adds Harris, I think it can be an overall negative for them in the long run.
In short, many things you deem as impossible or just kidding, actually makes a lot of sense but it’s just that you can’t understand b/c your IU education won’t allow you to understand. You can’t see as far b/c it’s beyond your level and your way of thinking.
Having said that though, look, I still like you, and I think your article on Harris is a good and fair one. The only thing I am saying is you really tip your hand at your (or better say, IU’s) loser mentality. Here at Purdue, I think the team attitude is always, we aren’t scared of anyone, no matter how “talented” they are, because if you want to be the best you have to play the best, and because we know we usually aren’t the more talented team, but we pretty damn sure we are the hardest-working team, and that’s what it matters. Basketball is not five games of one-on-one, it’s one game of five-on-five. If talent is all that matters, LBJ would have already won a championship at Miami.
Nowadays
you NEED take-over-the game, pro-level talent to win national championships. It’s a requirement. Now you could try to refute that by throwing Butler in my face but remember that I said “win”, not “get ridiculously close to winning.” So you can say that you don’t care if IU, UK, and Michigan State get all the 5 star talent in the world because you’d rather stick with the ‘Purdue way’ of getting blue collar guys who overachieve, but I bet most of your buddies would be perfectly happy with landing a few one and dones if it meant a Final Four appearance and a real chance to win it all.
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by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Nov 6, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
Butler is a unique case.
If they shoot the ball as well as they did the rest of the season last year they win the title game by 15 points. UConn shot poorly, but Butler was abyssmal.
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Yeah, that game was just bizarre.
If I had to rank the worst NC games of my lifetime that would most assuredly be number 1. Hard to imagine how 2 teams who played so well to get there could fall apart so completely when it meant the most. I remember saying about 50 times: “These shots have GOT to start falling at some point. They just f*cking HAVE TO!”
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by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Nov 6, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
I think you are misinterpreting
I will be lying if I say I don’t want 5-star talent. Heck, I so much wish Dawson is on our team precisely b/c he’s a 5-star talent that addresses our team’s main weakness in rebounding, esp offensive rebounding. I’d be lying if if I don’t want an athletic freak like GH to be on our team. Yes, landing a 5-star recruit increases our chance to make FF and even NC, no question about it.
But, the way our system works allow us to be less reliant on 5-star players. Carl Landry wasn’t a 5-star. Neither is Brad Miller, or Brian Cardinal, or Chad Austin, or Cuonzo Martin. The only 5-star guys I recall is Glenn Robinson and Mike Robinson. Having more 5-star players would be nice, but I would be equally happy to see another Chris Kramer or Brian Cardinal.
I don’t think you can throw Butler under the bus like that as if getting to the NC game two years in a row means absolutely nothing b/c they didn’t win the big one. If that’s the case, UK stinks big time. UNC stinks. OSU stinks. Kansas stinks. Many of them didn’t even get to FF at all despite an entire starting lineup of McD AA. Every team in the country stinks except UConn and Duke in the last two years.
Eh, I'm of the opinion that you can't have too much talent.
I hate UK 100 times more than I despise Purdue but I’d still take their one and done recruiting classes every day of the week and twice on gameday. Their fans are giddy at the start of every GD season because of their potential. It just has to be and insane amount of fun to be a UK fan.
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by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Nov 6, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
But the odds of Five 5-star freshmen winning a National Championship is slim to none… You have to have talented upperclassmen as well, and if one-and-dones is ALL you bring in, then you are building on nothing. I prefer cheering for players for four years with the occasional blue chipper over all new players year-in year-out! idk, just my preference!
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 6, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
If I had the choice
between winning with a bunch of one and dones and winning with a bunch of 3 and 4 year guys obviously I’d choose the latter. You want to pull hardest for the guys who have bought in entirely to your program and aren’t just using it as a stepping stone to the NBA. But I’m at the point now where I just want to win. Screw all this ‘We want to win but we want to win with Indiana guys who play the Indiana way’ crap. Overload with talent. Coach em up. Win.
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by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Nov 7, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Oh... I have never cared that they had to be from Indiana...
But I DEFINITELY think that they need to fit in to our system, at least at Purdue they do. There is no point in recruiting a kid that isn’t going to play defense when that is what our entire team concept is based on. That would do nothing but hurt in the long run. Very few one-and-dones are going to play hard nosed defense because, well… they won’t be expected to at the next level, so all their focus is on the offense. Now… if we can find the rare blue chipper that DOES want to work hard, then GO GET HIM! I’m all for that, but if he is going to sit around and act entitled, I’d rather pass!
Also, there is something to be said for guys that come in, bust their ass, and put the team first. They end up with a strong connection to the University that does nothing but help in the long run. Guys like Brian Cardinal are the types of guys I love because they work their butts off, do the dirty work that most players won’t do, and it pays off for them! Then, their success comes back to Purdue because they have that strong bond with the University that most one-and-dones would not have!
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 7, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
x2
And Cardinal just joined our staff as an “athletic admin intern”, whatever that means I am happy he’s back. If he can teach our players something about diving for loose ball I’ll be even happier.
I'm now starting to appreciate this NBA lockout
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by sea.of.white on Nov 8, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Long term
You may think it is sour grape, or maybe I’m just brainwashed by the Purdue-style, but I feel if I have the choice I’d still prefer being a Purdue fan rather than a UK fan. Sure, every year UK has a recruiting bonanza (didn’t they just get 3 of the top 5 frosh this year?), but then you have to wonder, when Cali leaves (or gets busted), what is left at UK? (Urrr, likely some NCAA sanctions?) With so many one-and-dones, even when they become big-time player, how loyal will they be to their school? (I am sure some will remain very loyal, but don’t you just feel good about guys like Brian Cardinal, totally defy the odds and contribute to win an NBA championship, while also donating money to his alma mater to build a basketball facility?) And the thing is, I’d think the UK fans are numb to 5* recruits. Just 5* no longer excites them but needs to be in the Top 5. Whereas, when a 5* recruit come to our school, he’ll sure be getting a ton of love.
I know a couple hardcore UK guys
so I’ll ask em if they’re numb to getting 5-star recruits. They definitely bitch a lot considering their recent success so I wouldn’t put it past them.
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by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Nov 7, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
I definitely feel like it isn't good enough for a guy to be just a 5-star recruit for UK fans anymore...
They want the elite of the elite, or they aren’t happy!
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 7, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
You are crazy if you think Harris wouldn't make IU better
“I see IU adding Harris to be overeating. It disrupts their chemistry. It becomes a mess in recruiting. Ppl only see the upside (the tasty food) but never the downside (health risk). So even if IU adds Harris, I think it can be an overall negative for them in the long run.”
No offense but that is a pretty weak analogy; Harris at IU on top of the talent they already have coming in is something I don’t really want to consider. If we land Harris, I think it helps put Purdue on even footing with IU next year; if IU lands Harris, they are going to be pretty damn impressive for the next several years. We can talk all we want about hard-nosed scrappy players, but the reason we have been so good the last several years is because we also had a ton of talent with Johnson, Moore and Hummel.
I gotta agree with AJ on this one, I would much rather see Harris go to Michigan State if we don’t get him. You are also kidding yourself if IU’s 2012 class doesn’t make you at least a tad apprehensive. That doesn’t mean Purdue isn’t going to be good either, but IU will be very, very good with what they have coming in and if they add Harris, watch out.
Yep. Now its to be seen if they can be properly developed,
but to say that IU’s recruiting class is weak is about as wrong as you can possibly be.
Anywho, back to the Harris vigil 2011 and the continuation of the depths of hatred towards Twitter and what it does to my psyche. Boiler Up, Gary!!
Who said IU's recruit class is week?
I dunno, but not me. If anything, I say I’m not afraid. Duke has great recruiting class year in and year out. But I am not afraid of facing them. If you want to be the best, you have to play the best. You may lose, but that’s how you learn. Beating a crappy IU team brings joy and is such a guilty pleasure, but at the end of the day, I think we have much higher ambition than that.
I didn't say you said there class was weak,
I said you were crazy if you think that adding Harris to IU’s class would somehow make it worse.
OK, maybe I should add "potentially" in the overeating statement
At the end of the day, I think the main difference is, if you can have only one, do you want to beat IU, or be the B1G champ? I know some of you would pick the former, but for me, it’s the latter. I value a B1G champ more than beating IU, and so I see Harris at MSU a bigger threat to that goal than Harris at IU. To me, B1G champ means we are among the elite in the entire country. Beating IU is fun and joyous, but it says nothing about our status nationwide.
You seem to think IU is going to continue to be a bottom feeder in the Big 10
Obviously I would rather win the Big 10 championship as it is more important than just beating IU, I think many Purdue fans would feel the same way. Make no mistake though, if Harris goes to IU it will negatively impact our chances of winning the Big 10 title. As it stands now they are going to be a major player in the conference when their 2012 class arrives; add Harris to that class and it only gets better. If you want you can say I have a ’loser’s mentality’, but if we can’t have Harris I would rather have him go to MSU or UK (where it wouldn’t negatively affect us at all) over IU. I don’t really feel like IU’s class needs to get any stronger and I just can’t fathom wanting a player of Harris’ caliber to go to our biggest rival.
How about this?
Let’s have a side-bet. If Harris comes to Purdue (which is what we both want, right?), I’ll bet that MSU will still have a better B1G season than IU in 2012. I am not saying IU will be at the bottom of B1G to eternity. After all, they do have Jesus and their 2012 class is pretty darn good. But still, I’d say MSU will finish higher than IU in the B1G in 2012. I’ll even say MSU is ranked higher by at least 2 spots than IU in B1G in 2012 after it is all said and done. And so my point is just being that, if winning B1G is a higher priority goal, and if the choice is to hope Harris at IU or Harris at MSU, I’d rather he go to IU. It’s just picking the lesser poison.
jeez man
because you disagree you’re going to insult me and my education level. I’m not about to get into a flame war comparing schools, but I’ll just point out Times Higher Education (the most respected rankings in the world) Has Purdue and IU within 20 spots of each other on a global level. If we’re talking respect for each other you just blew yours with that schtick.
This whole bullshit losers mentality crap that you keep projecting onto me and Indiana in general is pretty far out there. Then there’s this crap that IU’s super bowl is playing Purdue? God, you are so full of yourself. Thank goodness the rest of this sight isn’t projecting this smugness that you just spouted here. Good luck with your pseudo moral high ground. I’m sure it will make you a lot of friends in the future.
Also your embarrassment of riches argument for IU is so incredibly flawed it’s not even funny.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
Maybe we can just call it truce, eh?
AJ, you’re one of the four IU fans I have respect for. Maybe we can just write this issue up to the rivalry?
Yeah
No hard feelings towards anyone but you need to back off AJ or at least use your head when talking about Purdue. His participation over here makes things more enjoyable so either be respectful or stfu.
by OldSchoolStyle on Nov 6, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
very true
AJ brings solid analysis and has a good head on his shoulders. that can be hard to find from IU fans.
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OK, AJ
I apologize. I don’t mean to offend you, and it clearly seems that you are offended so I am sorry. Some of what I said is indeed harsh, which is a line I normally don’t cross but I thought it is acceptable under the IU-Purdue rivalry context. Now I know how you feel about it, I respect you and I won’t speak to you in that manner then, cool?
Rivals confuses me at times
Sometimes it seems like they purposely make their rankings to stir up controversy and page views. ESPN and Scout have our 2012 class as #13 and #16 respectively. Rivals doesn’t have us listed at all.
'Almost' okay with whatever he decides...
To tell you the truth I feel more comfortable today with the future of the team and the program than at any time I can remember. We have so much talent coming in that I honestly won’t feel heartbroken if he doesn’t come to Purdue. Don’t get me wrong I really hope he does and he would definitely make us stronger, but if he chooses MSU or even IU over us at least that keeps him in the B1G. Who can’t get excited about the strength of the league this year and in the years to come?
He and his family have been very classy throughout what has to be a very difficult process. So as long as he doesn’t choose UK, I’ll be fine with his decision.
by IrememberSchoettelkotte on Nov 4, 2011 9:11 PM EDT reply actions
no surprise
I hope he chooses the best fit for him and his family. A degree from any BIG 10 school is nothing to sneeze at.
Purdue Is Only Choice
The only place of his four where he can come in and start right away is Purdue. He could be a four year star, all time great, and Indiana Legend if he becomes a Boilermaker.
BTFU Gary!!
by Funk on a whole new level on Nov 4, 2011 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
Plus...
IU SUCKS!
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 4, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just like Paintergate
We’re here for the long haul.
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 4, 2011 11:41 PM EDT reply actions
Difference:
It’s not the end of the world if Harris goes elsewhere.
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+1
Painter is watching Harris tonight in the high school football playoffs, per Twitter.
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 4, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Crean was not there.
Jeff Rabjohns was positive about that. Crean used up all his “looks” so he wasn’t there.
by Caleb Benner on Nov 5, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh Crean was there.
I think he was playing cornerback for Fishers to get extra contact.
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Yeah, I also think Crean was there
He is still wearing his Halloween costume trying to disguise himself. After all, he already has a violation, and he figures he might as well go the distance.
What was his costume?
I am guessing with his tan he could go as one of the Jersey Shore cast memebers.
Decision Announcement
I’m really curious how he’ll announce his decision. Will he announce his decision before a game (similar to Yogi), do the table with the hats thing, or keep it low key and just tell the coach and let the media get it out there for him?
by Bryan Kennedy on Nov 5, 2011 11:07 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
I can see him just calling the coach and telling them
There’s no reason to make a big production out of it.
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seems too classy for the big production
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by sea.of.white on Nov 5, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey Gary, Jimmy here. Let me give you some pointers on classy
Lord, jager me strength.
by doublegoldandblack on Nov 5, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
"I'm gonna win 4 Heisman's and 4 National Championships."
proceed to hurl all over the place
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 6, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Still wiating on the first of each.
Gonna be tough when there are QB’s on his pro team with more Hesmans
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What is with that HAIR?
Is he violating a light socket or something?
"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"
x2
I hate the hat thing. Really, after LBJ, do we want another “Decision”?
Having said that, I guess I am a hypocrite b/c I still don’t mind if he announces, “I am taking my talent to West Lafayette.”
a lot of kids hold a press conference
ronnie johnson had one. cody zeller did too. i think it’s fine. fun, even. it doesn’t have to be a big thing, just him sitting at a table with his family and coaches, attended by the local media. what 18 year old wouldn’t love that?
http://therailroadtie.com/
Boiler up!
by therailroadtie on Nov 6, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Hell He can have a Parade for all I care...
If he chooses Purdue, of course! :D
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 7, 2011 7:35 AM EST up reply actions
True
I just wish guys are more like Durant (simply tweeted that he signed an extension with OKC) than LBJ (need an hour-long “Decision”). But you are right, which 18-year-old doesn’t want some attention? So long if it is classy and done in a simple manner w/o big fanfare, I think I’m cool with that.
there's no way he doesn't have a press conference
http://therailroadtie.com/
Boiler up!
by therailroadtie on Nov 5, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
My best guess is it will be a small press conference his high school with regional coverage that will divulge the info via Twitter.
That or he could just write “Boiler Up” on his Twitter…
Sabotage!
We need a Boiler to go to MSU, disguised as a Spartan, and do their very best to make this visit as uncomfortable as possible! There’s still time!
by BoilertotheBone on Nov 5, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions
Heard that
Gary Harris had an injury scare with his knee in a playoff game last week.
Does this mean he is going to Purdue?
Oh yeah
He might be already bleeding gold and black and hence the injury scare
This thread was a very clever idea
But I can’t believe its actually about to happen. It seems like he has been recruited forever, it will be weird for him to actually be committed to somewhere.
If Harris comes to Purdue
who do you imagine would be the 1, 2 and 3 just in 2012?
1. Terone (not sure if he could be a PG) or Ronnie (hard to see a true frosh run the point)
2. Gary Harris, A. Johnson, or Raphael Davis
3. Barlow (maybe put Barlow back at the point), Byrd, Raphael Davis
To me Davis seems like he could be a scoring machine at Purdue and should be able to contribute immediately but I can’t see him being any higher than 3 deep at any position.
PG
The more I think about it, the more I love the possibility of Terone and Ronnie sharing PG duties. That way, our SG is likely AJ and Raphael Davis.
Could Harris play the 3 if he came here?
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 6, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
RayD is a more likely candidate to slide over to the 3 than Harris
http://therailroadtie.com/
Boiler up!
by therailroadtie on Nov 6, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
whatever way
the lineup would be hashed out one thing for sure is that this team would be loaded at guard/wing. and the combination of Hale, Lawson, Simpson, Hammons and Carrol would be very solid. Forget even thinking about Willis at that point I think.
Actually
I think Painter really wants both.
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 6, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think *A LOT* of fans want both
Heck, we are greedy, who isn’t?
From the GBI Free Board...
For what it’s worth…
@touchdown113 Todd Dalson
@2busyGRINDING2 Dawson, did your Indiana comrade enjoy his official? Do you think we get him?
17 hours ago
in reply to ↑
Branden Dawson
@2busyGRINDING2 Branden Dawson
@touchdown113 He sure did & its looking good for us
Ever grateful, ever true.
A Somewhat Happier Tweet...
@HardHoopsNews
“He’s high on Purdue, he can come attack on offense and play hard defense this is what we need for a CHAMPIONSHIP” -Raph Davis on Gary Harris"
Also
Same guy said some nice things about Hammons as well.
“AJ Hammons has improved a lot from the end of the summer to now! His shot blocking is superb! Rebounding is EXCELLENT and he’s…”
“using his body A LOT MORE! BECOMING A PURE BULLY INSIDE”
You're Killing Me!!
You guys are killing me when you paste this stuff in:) It makes me too excited!!
How am I supposed to stay calm when I see this stuff!! LOL
Seriously, if my kid was getting recruited like this, I’d pay the Harris Family to school me on how they’ve handled this recruitment. Best I’ve ever seen. They’re showing what kind of character they have by handling this so well. Best of luck!!
Any insight to the weekend visit?
Okay, it’s the Monday after. Does anyone have any insight to the MSU visit? Good, bad, or ugly, I just want to find out soon.
you can pretty much copy-paste from his previous visits
I’m amazed at how tight-lipped they’ve managed to keep this thing
http://therailroadtie.com/
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by therailroadtie on Nov 7, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
x2
If anything, it’ll say, “It went fine. Glad to meet and talk to the players. Coach Izzo is amazing. Will sit down and go over with the family and make a decision very soon.”
On his visit to MSU:
"Visit was good," Harris told SNY.tv by text. "We are still sorting things out as a family."
I love that he always includes “as a family”. That is something very special that I wish more kids had. Granted, you can’t extrapolate a “perfect family life” out of a single quote, but it is really neat to see someone who is really attached to his family and really cares about what they think. It’s a family decision; wow, that truly is really cool.
by Caleb Benner on Nov 7, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
When was the last time a recruit kept that tight-lipped about not letting any insider info out? The dude is doing it right.
by Caleb Benner on Nov 7, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Talking about a classy kid
A classy kid would rule out Kentucky (slick Cal) and IU (recruiting violation). So, it’s just us and MSU… Come on Gary, do the right thing and pick Purdue.
This week, and I have heard Wednesday as well.
My best guess is he will disseminate it through Twitter. Supposedly some dude on Twitter talked with him and said he would return to Twitter once he made the decision, a.k.a the two will coincide with one another.
by Caleb Benner on Nov 7, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Don't have access to this but if someone does, here is a write-up...
Five-star shooting guard finished up his official visit tour with a trip to Michigan State. The No. 12 ranked prospect in the country documented his final visit for Scout.com and talks about the trip as well as his impending commitment to one of his four finalists.
Nothing of substance
Same as the other three, “had a good time, did such and such, now I have to make a decision.”
He does however pre-apologize to the three losing schools for not choosing them. Smart and classy kid.
From an MSU site
Reportedly, Gary’s dad is attending bball practice at Purdue today
Yeah I've heard that too
I don’t know what to make of it though; the real question is has his dad been going to practice for years or is it something that just started this year? If it just started, it may mean something more; if not than it probably means nothing.
...
that is an interesting development… I just don’t want to get my hopes up too high because I have had my heart ripped out too often by some of these top recruits recently, and I don’t want it to happen again!
I’m looking at you Dawson!*
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 7, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
can you give your source for that?
I just want to know where you got it because that would be some very interesting news
You can read all sorts of stuff into this
Either:
a.) They still haven’t made up their minds yet and they want more information
b.) He’s a Purdue lean
c.) He’s decided to not go to Purdue and wants his dad to tell Painter
d.) His dad enjoys watching practice and is using his son’s recruitment as an excuse to watch
e.) His dad was in town for work and decided to stop by and say hi
I’d say “a” or “e” is the most likely, but that’s probably because I’m conditioned as a Purdue to not get excited about anything.
As far as sources, I saw an MSU writer and a UK writer mention it. They may be parroting the same information, who knows. His dad has been attending a lot of Purdue and IU practices, so it’s not implausible.
http://therailroadtie.com/
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by therailroadtie on Nov 7, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
My two thoughts:
1) I would rather have Gary Sr. at a Purdue practice than any other school (obviously MSU and UK aren’t realistic due to geographic constraints).
2) Whatever Gary Sr. does for a living must be really nice with all the time he has to spend helping his family out. I hope to have the ability to be with my family or do family things that much some day.
by Caleb Benner on Nov 8, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
i think thats a good sign
I’m guessing he is finalizing who to pick. I doubt he would drive 60 mins to tell Painter they aren’t picking Purdue, esp during practice. Also shows how easy it would be to whatch his son.
Keep in mind
He’s stopped by practice before. He’s also stopped by practice at IU at least twice, but that was before Gary started his OVs.
Forgot to mention
I always heard he had business in the area when he stopped by before
Danny Downer here:
I just can’t wait for this turd sandwich of a sports week to get over. Purdue bent over, Steelers lose to freaking Flacco, NBA will (essentially) lose a season Wednesday, and GH commits to Izzo. Yay sports.
Here's a link to a interview with Harris by an MSU guy (I think)
Just went up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTO5ujDCEuc&feature=youtu.be
Mentions not being as familiar with some of MSU’s recruits as some of the other programs. Not sure that means anything but worth mentioning.
Really Harris is about as vague as possible in the interview. Oh yeah, and the interviewer’s “got it”
EXACTLY!
sorry, couldn’t resist using another recently overused line
To your call once more we rally....
by BoilerPaulie on Nov 7, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Man that kid is well spoken and tight lipped.
He’s like a British citizen in WWII actually thinking that loose lips sink ships. Got it, ummm.
by Caleb Benner on Nov 8, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
I've heard
Take this for what it is worth: nothing. I hate to be “that guy” who “heard from someone” but I do work in an NCAA athletic department in Indiana. I was talking to someone else in the department who is also a big Purdue fan and is from West Lafayette and has a lot of Purdue connections, and she said that she heard Gary is a UK lean at this point because he feels he owes it to himself and his family to give himself the best chance at the NBA. Hearing that makes me think the dad was there to let Purdue know it won’t be them and also thank them for their consideration. I hope she was given bad intel! Come on Gary… we’ll get you to the NBA too I swear!
If he's got the skills
He will go to the NBA no matter WHERE he goes to college!
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 7, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Still
It’s hard to blame him, but it does suck that this is the reality of recruiting now. We can’t get NBA caliber players without already having NBA caliber players? It seems like if you are on the outside looking in it will be hard to get the cycle started. I thought with Moore and Johnson we would have gotten the ball rolling.
by OldSchoolStyle on Nov 7, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
That's as good of a source as Twitter.
Just sayin’. Hearing from someone that heard from someone else that blahblahblah doesn’t really come across as new intel. I’m not sure he really has a lean right now. Either way, he and his parents will rationally discuss all options and make an informed decision.
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 7, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
That’s exactly why I said take it for what it is worth: nothing. It’s worth nothing plain and simple. I just thouhgt it was worth sharing. Also, just talked to Ronnie Johnson on twitter and he says it’s Purdue or MSU. Those are the schools I thought made the most sense from the start so I buy that a little more. That and I can put a face on the info rather than just hearing it through the grape vine. All of it is worth nothing, but just thought it may as well be shared.
by OldSchoolStyle on Nov 8, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Understood
Thx for sharing. Yeah, I’d also give more weight to Ronnie’s. Hope he is right.
anybody ready to start pairing recruits with used car dealers?
My source at Ray Skillman said that Jay Simpson was getting pretty serious about a Kia Rondo hatchback.
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
by sea.of.white on Nov 8, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I just thought this entire thing through....
and realized that it really won’t matter if we don’t get Harris. Don’t get me wrong…I want him to be a Boilermaker. But I would rather he go to UK so he’s out of the conference and we don’t have to cross him if he doesn’t go here. If the kid goes to IU I’ll loathe him as much as any Hoosier. But the thing is…
1. The 4 guys we already have are studs. Plus I like the look of that Jankovic kid.
2. 2013 is also quite stacked. Willis would erase the memory of losing Harris.
3. Matt Painter is a hell of a coach. The kind of talent we’re already getting will put us at a nationally elite level, no question.
4. IU sucks
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 7, 2011 11:56 PM EST reply actions
Couldn't agree more
Harris will not “make or break” anything for us and iu definitely sucks. Great point!
Agreed... he would DEFINITELY make us better...
but we would be okay without him… Boy I hope he makes the right decision :D
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 8, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Don't start bailing now gentlemen.
Logic is still on our side if you listen to GH’s selection criteria (distance from home, familiarity with other recruits, etc.) The only benefit to UK is if you’re a one and done guy. I think Gary is looking for more than that and probably is a two or three year player. If you can play, the NBA scouts will find you.
by Hummel's figurines on Nov 8, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
We're just trying to view things in a better light
so that if he doesn’t come here we won’t be too upset. If he goes to IU I will be very upset though.
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 8, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Amen, brother...
That would really tick me off… Still a classy dude, though…
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 8, 2011 7:05 AM EST up reply actions
Another 2012 recruit would make it very hard for us to fit Willis in.
We would already have to have someone graduate to fit in Harris. We just plain wouldn’t have room for Willis unless Painter has Sandi graduate.
If he keeps this pace of improvement up, we're looking at a straight up bruiser the next 2 years.
by Caleb Benner on Nov 8, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Isn't he a soph?
Or are you not counting this season?
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 8, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah not this season, so this year, next year, and the year after that.
3 total, 2 not including this year.
by Caleb Benner on Nov 8, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
People put him down so much last year, but its important to understand just how green he was. Also, the learning curve for Big Ten centers takes a while.
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 8, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Don't get me wrong, I want him to stay
He is showing signs of him being a very good big man in the paint to go along with Hammons. I was just saying that Sandi graduating would be the only way to fit Willis in if another recruit joins the 2012 class. Or Painter sends another player to prep school for a year.
Willis should have thought about that...
BEFORE he decommitted…
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 8, 2011 7:07 AM EST up reply actions
No, not true, Sandi graduating won't fit Willis if GH joins
As it stands now, we are already at the limit in 2013 (it doesn’t matter if Hale/Lawson redshirts, that only makes a difference in 2015). In other words, we will need at least one player to grad/prep/leave for NBA/transfer in 2013 to make room for Harris, and two if we want both Harris and Willis. Let alone we may not want Sandi to leave by then, even him leaving is not enough for both Harris and Willis. (And for the record, I am really not a big fan of throwing current or committed players under the bus like this in favor of an uncommitted player, esp one who has actually betrayed us.)
3: Sandi, Carroll, TJ
3: AJ, Hale, Lawson
4: AJH, Davis, Simpson, RJ
3: Scott, Stephens, Smotherman
Pull a Pitino on Someone
Do like Ricky P did in Louisville by getting two guys to give up their scholarships because their parents / NBA brother could afford paying for college (Kuric and Smith). Do we have anyone whose parents could pay for college and give up their scholarships?
I don't want Painter FORCING this on anyone...
If he offered them a scholarship, then HONOR the scholarship… Now, if we get another kid that is willing to go to prep school for a year a la Donnie Hale, that is another story. I have a HUGE amount of respect for that kid because he TRULY wanted to be a Boilermaker and was willing to do what it took to get here!
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 8, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think we talked about his before
on the threads, but can someone who graduates, aka Sandi or Hart, go from scholarship to walk-on, since I am guessing they won’t be taking many classes (not sure the requirements).
that's what Rivals shows
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
by sea.of.white on Nov 8, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying
At UK, the fans may not even care since he is “merely” a 5* recruit. They only get excited if the player is in the Top 5. Here, as the open thread shows, he’s very much loved.
Plus, I am not really buying UK is a better route to get to the NBA. I think it is true only if you are the bluest of the blue chip (i.e. Top 5 overall) like a John Wall, a DeMarcus Cousins, or a Derrick Rose. In that case, UK’s system allows the frosh to flourish and make a good case for the NBA. But if you are not going to be the top dog over there, you’ll still get the attention, but your draft stock would just be about the same as if you lead a solid program like Purdue to a FF as the top dog.
phone call?
with who? lol
talk about vague
by PurdueEnginerd on Nov 8, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
OMG
All these rumors are KILLING ME!
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 8, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
I heard he was leaning toward Kentucky
Fried Chicken for lunch. No word yet on what side he’s getting but my sources tell me either mashed potatoes and gravy or green beans.
Ya well I heard he was leaning away from UK
He’d prefer to stay on this side of the pond in the United States
by PurdueEnginerd on Nov 8, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Green beans must mean MSU.
We’re ruined!!!
by Caleb Benner on Nov 8, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
I can see the signs.
It’s looking like those who follow and post on this thread are slowly falling into insanity. If he chooses not to go to Purdue, I think there will be a need for grief counseling on this page.
I will be upset...
But I won’t hate the kid*… The way he handled this recruitment has been nothing but classy, and you have to respect that, especially with the way most people do it nowadays.
- Unless he chooses IU… THAT would be UNFORGIVABLE!!!
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 8, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, but you didn't see who was working behind the counter....
… KELSEY BARLOW!
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
by sea.of.white on Nov 8, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO
Got it. Umm..
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 8, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
What does it mean??
JaySimpson_23
@Westlala1600 (Ronnie Johnson) “you talk to Gary?”
Westlala1600
@JaySimpson_23 “call me when yu can bro bro”
And yes I have wasted entirely too much time this week on Twitter following this.
Don't know how to feel about that
It could be either good news or bad news.
Craphouse!
why couldn’t it be ‘in-between’ news. Why does it always have to be good or bad? Mediocre news?
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
by sea.of.white on Nov 8, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Offering a different point of view...
I’m as caught up in Gary mania as anyone, I keep checking back here every couple of hours to see if there is anything new. I’ve even resorted to googling his name under the news section in hopes that something will pop up (no twitter at work). Stepping back from it though, here’s a bunch of grown men spending hours of their lives following every move made by this teenage athlete, trying to pick apart his brain in hopes of discerning his intentions. If he was just a “normal” kid (read: non-athlete) and thousands of people tracked his every move, I can’t help but wonder if some kind of legal action would be taken against those following him.
Just an observation.
P.S. Gary, BOILER UP!!!
You are right
I have never been so caught up with a recruit, ever. With Gary, I am on a constant thirst for info, yes during work hours. Probably spending way too much time on this, but sure is fun. Just crazy. I wonder how many of us feel the same…
Sh!t
Remember when I said I talked to Ronnie Johnson on Twitter and he said it wasn’t UK, it was gonna be Purdue or MSU. Well, he deleted that tweet. So maybe it it out of respect for Harris’s privacy, but it could mean he found out it was UK and that is why he needed to talk to Jay Simpson.
Yeah……. we are all nuts…….
I doubt Gary told anyone.
I think he might know by now…but he wants to talk it over with parents first.
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 8, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Last time I cared this much
about any high schooler’s decisions was when Boyz II Men were still popular. I was pretty into the Branden Dawson stuff this time last year, but the thought of Harris joining this class makes me giggle incessantly. I hope if not Purdue, he chooses UK. Maybe MSU. I could understand why he would pick one of those two. Not IU. I just hope he decides soon to end the “what if” games.
by One of these days on Nov 8, 2011 12:28 PM EST reply actions
I just saw something
Nobody had commented in this for like, 15 minutes, so I figured I would go ahead. Now, back to work.
Where's Bernie? Where's the "book it" guy?
I thought by now I should have heard “Gary Harris is going to _, BOOK IT!” Man, those guys just aren’t doing their job!
ahhh, open thread memes, how I love thee. LOL
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Nov 8, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Ma-na-ma-na
I love the muppets
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Nov 9, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
Nice to see you Bernie! Love your smile so much that I wanna punch it :-)
…after all the heart attack you gave me during the Painter saga…
On the upside
My 2nd cousin said that Sandi took his Merkur in for service at Mike Raiser Ford – and they said that Sandi had no idea who “Garrett Harris” is.
language barrier…..
>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry, MSU - It's just a game...
My gut
still says MSU. They have 5 scholarships for 2012 and 3 are filled…
by PurdueEnginerd on Nov 8, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
sounds like he might not even decide tomorrow, huh
In fact, with Wednesday being the first day of the Fall signing period, there’s no press conference scheduled for HSE on that day.
There’s one other fly in the ointment for a quick decision — Harris still is playing football and is preparing all week for a Class 5A regional game on Friday night at Fort Wayne Snider.
It really may be the weekend before Harris makes up his mind.
We are all going to go insane
And or fail classes/get fired.
Good thing I work from home
I can post as soon as I hear anything and put fears to rest.
I know I am not alone in saying Anyone but IU. If we lose him to Crean the noise form Bloomington will be insufferable.
A futile crusade to prevent mass ignorance
HammerAndRails, SBNation's Boilermaker Blog
I know I should already know this
but if he were to commit to IU what happens next relating to them being overcommited? Would the others that already verballed have a chance to sign and then he’d have to wait til late signing period and see if anything changed?
Basically Yes
Unless they held one of their current commits from signing tomorrow, which doesn’t seem to be the plan.
like grab them by the jersey
and keep them from reaching for the pen until gary signs? At any rate, I just can’t see him going there with that situation let alone for any other reason.
Would you really put that past Crean lol
I agree that seems like a major issue for IU though, and I don’t see him waiting until the spring to sign
Harris Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yULFxnKg4bE&feature=related
These are from the 2011 LeBron James Skills Academy. Wow.
It's gotta be down to Purdue and MSU
I think he chooses based on coaching, the sytem and the teammates which should be between those two. Then proximity could easily play a part (Purdue) and hopefully, lastly the family ties will seal it. Coaching rules out IU. Coaching and lack of knowing who your teammates will be should rule out UK. Teague will probably be gone being a Calapari PG. Are Teague and Gary friends? It seems most his friends are on Purdue and IU so that makes the choice simple.
I think we have a better shot than IU and UK but....
I don’t like our scholarship situation. I feel like Harris is the kind of person who wouldn’t want to force people to graduate/transfer/pay for school so he could play. If that feeling is true, then I think us and IU are out of it. I’m thinking he goes to MSU. I will be overjoyed if I am wrong and he comes to play for the Boilers though.
I saw that
theres no IU star article that states that however
by PurdueEnginerd on Nov 8, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yes...
because I trust everything the IU Star says…
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 8, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
My sources tell me its MSU...
#Harrisgate
In all seriousness, I really think it will be MSU. Never had a problem with MSU, in fact I think Izzo and their program is pretty topnotch, except for the rape cover-up scandal, but it would be terrible to have to face Dawson AND Harris for the B1G title. Its between us and MSU I think, and MSU gets the edge with Izzo’s track record.
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
In order to see 15-ish home games/practices
It would be 30 hours of driving to Purdue or 150 hours of driving to MSU
Meh...
There are a ton of other factors though besides Izzo’s track record.
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 8, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
One of the things he mentioned about Purdue in the video
was that it was close to home. Idk I’m feeling pretty good about our chances.
Btw...
Washburn just tweeted that there is a report that Harris told UK no. Washburn says he believes its between us and MSU
Jeff Washburn
https://twitter.com/#!/JeffWashburnJC/status/134049316896653313
On the eve of signing day, it appears Gary Harris will decide between Michigan State and Purdue. One report is that Harris tells KY no.
Sup Jello Shot?
OMG... OMG... OMG...
My heart is going to explode!
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 8, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Not in terms of pageantry
but in how hung up we are on it lol
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 8, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
iIn terms of pageantry, its the exact opposite.
by BoilertotheBone on Nov 8, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
Don't give me attitude, boy!
I was continuing the endless commentary on how well he has handled this decision.
by BoilertotheBone on Nov 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome...
Purdue 2012 commit shooting guard Raphael Davis from Fort Wayne, Ind., said that he disagrees with the assertion that the Indiana University class is better than Purdue’s.
"I think we are better than them. We got a lot of hard playing, hard working kids. We’ll prove it when we get to campus," Davis said.
I like that confidence…
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 8, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
Perspective
If we get Harris, awesome, welcome to the Boilermaker Fam. if we don’t good luck to him and move on. Way less nervous for this than when Painter almost left
"The goal remains the same"
I agree that it isn't the end of the world if he doesn't join us...
but at the same time he would make us better…and by that I mean instant title contender better. So we’re still obsessively following this. lol
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 8, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
PU vs MSU
Distance: PU (30 minute drive compared to 5 hour drive)
Tournament Success: MSU (hard to beat recent Final 4 success)
Coach/Player Development: PU (of recently, Painter has developed players into NBA potential better)
Coaching Success: MSU (close for recent success, but Izzo definitely has had more total success due to tournaments, titles)
Knows Recruiting Class: PU (regularly chats with, have played against/with)
Family: PU (both Purdue Grads)
Facilities: PU (guessing since newly remodeled)
Player Positions: MSU (they tend to have more forwards, where we ususally have more guards)
——————
PURUDE: 5
MSU: 3
In addition, I think MSU has more name power and would get him more exposure probably, but at Purdue I think he would be more of a “legend” rather than just another good player that came through the system. Also, Mitch McGary stated that one of the things that drew him to UM was that fact that they weren’t a final four contender every year like Duke, making it more of a challenge for him to bring UM to that level… so maybe thats not always so important.
Agreed with your analysis
If anything, I may add:
Fans: PU (just look at this thread and see how many of us want GH; now go to MSU and it seems like no one gives a damn)
And yes, I too think being the one to lead the home state Purdue to its first FF in ages is a lot more rewarding than tagging along a MSU team to FF (if they can get there).
Facebook page
For whatever it is worth, Gary lists MSU Spartans as “other interest and activities”on is Facebook page.
Hmm...
Well, anyone can like random FB pages. If he knew that MSU was his choice, no doubt it would be out by now. I think he might have added it after his visit or something like that.
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 8, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Makes me think...
…that he’s going to choose MSU.
Why has everyone forgotten
that Harris said he was leaving social media when this whole thing heated up?
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 8, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
It's been on there forever
He probably doesn’t even remember its still on there at this point. He may go to MSU, but this doesn’t have anything to do with it.
Long enough that it doesn't pertain to his decision.
And I agree with BoilerchE…I just remembered, its been on there for a long while.
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 8, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Because we care!
No but seriously, I’m sure other Purdue fans have looked at Harris’ FB page.
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 8, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'm so obsessed right now...
I keep checking this damned post every 5 seconds!
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 8, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, I know! Like any of us schmucks are going to break the news or something.
by BoilertotheBone on Nov 8, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Harris has been so classy
that I have to respect him no matter what he chooses. MSU would be fine until we have to play them :/
by Jackson Brunner on Nov 8, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As long as it isn't IU, I can live with it...
But I REALLY hope it’s us!!!
Boiler Up! Hammer Down!
by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 8, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Get some rest, ladies and gents.
I’ll start a new Open thread at 8am sharp for signing day. if anything breaks tomorrow, I am on it.
A futile crusade to prevent mass ignorance
HammerAndRails, SBNation's Boilermaker Blog
Oh thank you...
I’m going to go say a prayer to Breesus now…
Boiler Up! Hammer Down!
by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 8, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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