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2011 Purdue Football: Was It A Success?

Over three months ago we started this thing called the 2011 football season. Most everyone I talked to felt that 6-6 and a bowl game was a best-case scenario and that it would mark progress withint he program. Indeed, 7-5 was viewed as wildly optimistic, especially after Rob Henry went down with a torn ACL. It seems so long ago that we were thinking about Henry as a major contributor and what his loss would mean to the year.

Fast forward 13 weeks. We are now 6-6, just as many people felt we could be if things went as well as possible. We overachieved greatly from MSULaxer's insane 1-11 prediction, but we did reach the goal of postseason eligibility that many felt was the ceiling for the year. Still, people are frustrated that things weren't better, and that stems from the exact reason as to why they weren't better.

This team was wildly inconsistent. We saw flashes of what could have been a 9-3 team, but we also saw flashes of why we probably should have gone 3-9. That equals out to exactly what we got: a mediocre 6-6 finish where it never was as good or as bad as it seemed. At times we played way above ourselves, while at times we played well below ourselves. With that in mind, let's take a look at each of my original game previews and how the actual games played out.

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Middle Tennessee State

Original Prediction: Purdue 27, MTSU 13

Actual game: Purdue 27, MTSU 24

We were incredibly lucky in this one, as we were outplayed for most of the day before Caleb TerBush found Antavian Edison over the middle on third down with less than two minutes to go for the winning score. We still needed Ricardo Allen to block the Blue Raiders' tying field goal attempt, but it was a win. Ralph Bolden had his best day with 120 yards rushing. We had a preview of coming attractions (false starts, holding, failing to cover the middle), but in the end we won, as I said after the game:

No matter how ugly it may look on the field, each win has its own beauty. It might be beer goggles after you've lost six in a row, but during one of the hottest games in Ross-Ade history, you take it home and be thankful that you scored. Sure, the next day you'll wonder, "How did I come home with this?", but well, everyone needs a slump-buster.

At Rice

Original Prediction: Purdue 37, Rice 17

Actual game: Rice 24, Purdue 22

At the time I thought this loss would cost us a bowl game. It nearly did, too. For the third straight year we lost a game to a non-conference team that we probably had no business losing to. This was the worst of the three too, as at least Northern Illinois and Toledo went on to good seasons. Rice barely cared about a football season, as evidenced by the fact there were more Purdue fans than Rice fans in their home stadium.

This was all coaching. We put on a clinic of how not to coach the final five minutes of a ballgame. A week after rushing for 120 yards Bolden became a forgotten member of the offense until the final drive. Still, this becomes a win if we just have better blocking on one play. It was simply not as our day, as O.J. Ross was on his way to a go-ahead touchdown in the fourth quarter before stumbling out of bounds. We had to settle for a field goal on that drive.

Southeast Missouri State

Original Prediction: Purdue 27, SEMO 16

Actual game: Purdue 59, SEMO 0

This was a pleasant surprise, as there were no signs of struggle at all. It seemed like everyone got in on the fun. We saw Akeem Hunt and Brandon Cottom for the first time as they racked up a pair of scores in garbage time. Robert Marve got his first action of the season. Walk-on senior Spencer Dawson even got his first career action at quarterback.

Notre Dame

Original Prediction: Notre Dame 35, Purdue 17

Actual game: Notre Dame 38, Purdue 10

With two weeks to prepare we came out and did nothing against Notre Dame, rolling over after an interception on the first play of the game. Micheal Floyd abused us, and once again we weren't even competitive when teams worse than us (Boston College, South Florida) were against the Fighting Irish. We would see a similar performance by the defense later in the season against Marvin McNutt, as I had this to say about Floyd:

For much of the night our defense against Micheal Floyd, possibly the best receiver in college football, was as effective as me shouting, "COVER MICHAEL FLOYD!" as loud as I could from 40 rows up in section 128.

Minnesota

Original Prediction: Purdue 26, Minnesota 20

Actual game: Purdue 45, Minnesota 17

This was another pleasant surprise game, as everything worked in opening up a 45-3 lead in our Big Ten opener. No one expected that, especially after the debacle that was the Notre Dame game, but we took care of business against a Minnesota team that was awful at the time, but got better as the season went on. Ryan Russell recovered two fumbles and Ricardo Allen tied Rod Woodson with his third career pick 6. We got to see Raheem Mostert really for the first time as he had a rushing touchdown and showed his top-level speed.

At Penn State

Original Prediction: Penn State 31, Purdue 10

Actual game: Penn State 23, Purdue 18

This was a fun trip out to State College, as we played the Nittany Lions a lot closer than expected. Much of that came from their offense being rather anemic. Unfortunately, special teams were awful in that they left points on the field. We had at least an eight point shift from a missed field goal, a missed extra point (and the resulting failed two-point conversion that would have been a kick normally) and an interception hat set up an unexpected field goal. This was probably the best we played away from Ross-Ade all season. Knowing how Penn State's season would turn out, I am sure there fans would take this type of survival win over a major scandal any day.

Illinois

Original Prediction: Illinois 24, Purdue 14

Actual game: Purdue 21, Illinois 14

At the time this looked like a stunning upset as we opened a 21-0 lead and held on through two late touchdowns to beat a ranked Fighting Illini team. The Penn State game looked like a missed opportunity, as a win there would have had us in the driver's seat of the Leaders Division at 3-0. Now that the season is over, we know this was likely just a part of Illinois' collapse. I was really surprised by this game because the Illini had dominated us the year before with much of the same offense back. Instead, we contained Nathan Scheelhasse and did enough to win. I am happy to be wrong on this one.

At Michigan

Original Prediction: Michigan 31, Purdue 17

Actual game: Michigan 36, Purdue 14

This game really hinged on a few crucial plays that went the way of the Wolverines. After that, things simply got out of control. We got an early big touchdown by Gary Bush to move ahead 7-0, but the defense couldn't get key stops. We gave up a safety, then as Marve had us driving for a critical score before halftime he was intercepted on a tipped pass from Justin Siller. It all fell apart after that. If we score on that drive to get some momentum going into halftime, who knows what happens.

At Wisconsin

Original Prediction: Wisconsin 34, Purdue 10

Actual game: Wisconsin 62, Purdue 17

I never expected to win at Wisconsin, but thanks to two great returns by Mostert we were only down 14-10 at one point late in the first quarter. Unfortunately, we made the conscious decision not to stop Montee Ball, resulting in the most points ever given up by a Purdue team. We got our ass thoroughly kicked, and that will continue to happen every year against Wisconsin until we can match their physicality.

Ohio State

Original Prediction: Purdue 13, Ohio State 10

Actual game: Purdue 26, Ohio State 23 OT

It is fun to say it, but we simply own Ohio State at home this century. I even predicted victory back on August 1 with the simple formula of slow down the running game and force them to throw. Except for a few Braxton Miller scrambles that is exactly what we did. I have no idea why we play them so well in Ross-Ade. It makes no sense, but we just do. This one certainly looked like one of those games where we're the better team for 58 minutes only to lose it on a cheap play in the last two. That was until Bruce Gaston blocked the go-ahead extra point. For the second time this year a block kick saved our season. Marve then redeemed himself for an awful interception with a brilliant overtime. In retrospect, it was an incredibly fun game. While it was happening I think I suffered about four heart attacks.

Iowa

Original Prediction: Purdue 27, Iowa 21

Actual game: Iowa 31, Purdue 21

This is another missed opportunity game because we couldn't have been more lost on both sides of the ball, but we were a questionable call at the goal line and an onside kick away from having a chance in the last few minutes. The defensive strategy seemed to be, "Let McNutt and Marcus Coker run loose until they get tired". Talking about our offensive strategy would imply we had one. This was just a brutal game against Our Most Hated Rival, and it stings to lose the Trophy of Badassery to those Nile Kinnick zombie-creating scumbags.

At Indiana

Original Prediction: Purdue 34, Indiana 27

Actual game: Purdue 33, Indiana 25

For a prediction that was made months in advance I was pretty damn close on this one. It wasn't pretty and I was pretty angry at this team about midway through the second quarter, but we got the job done. The Bucket returned home safely and we even have The Cannon now to keep it company. Indiana ended up being much worse than initially thought, as its defense couldn't stop anyone and the offense seemed to flame out after some big early plays. Still, it took a controversial interception to seal the deal. It doesn't matter though, as another P is going on the Bucket tonight and we have another game.

What does it all mean?

Most of you readers see me as one of the most positive of Purdue fans. I usually try to look for the good and try to see where we can find victory. When even I predict a 7-5 season and think it is a stretch, I don't think we can consider 6-6 an abject failure. We accomplished what we needed to: We made it to the postseason. As a result, Danny Hope will get at least one more season.

I know there is a large contingent that wants Hope gone, but I never felt he would be fired after three years because that is not what Purdue does. We almost always give a coach at least five seasons. This is the first time we have had a new coach in the modern "everybody goes to a bowl game" era, so that could have been a deciding factor, When Joe Tiller took over the program in 1997 there were only 20 bowl games. That meant only 40 of 113 teams played a postseason game. There are now 35 bowl games, so that means 70 spots for 120 teams. Proportionately, more teams play in a bowl game now than in the NCAA Tournament. That raises the stakes for coaches to produce immediately, as a three year bowl drought or longer is seen as a major failure. Does that mean Hope would have been gone had we lost to the Hoosiers? It's hard to say.

He will be back. I am 100% certain of that. The season's goals were accomplished, so there is no call to fire him. That said, I think there needs to be improvement next season. Winning the bowl game against a probably non-BCS conference opponent is an important first step. Going 3-0 against Eastern Kentucky, Marshall, and Eastern Michigan is another step. Hope cannot afford another loss to a MAC-level program, especially when he has a better record against Ohio State (2-1) than against the MAC (2-2).

From there, I think he needs to finish at least .500 in the conference again, and that won't be easy. Minnesota and Illinois should be games we can win, but we're not a good road team. He has to beat Indiana at home, and both Penn State at home and Iowa on the road are toss-ups. Asking us to win at Notre Dame or Ohio State will likely be a very tall order, as will beating Michigan and Wisconsin at home be.

In my opinion, Hope's coordinators are the problem. J.B. Gibboney is completely useless when it comes to kickoff coverage. Having co-defensive coordinators is like having two quarterbacks. Gary Nord had an excellent offense in 2009 sans all the turnover problems, but it has greatly regressed. It wouldn't surprise me if we see a coordinator change before next season.

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To be fair

Hope is 2-0* against OSU

by Purdue_it on Nov 28, 2011 2:32 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I'm over the Wisconsin and Michigan losses

But the Rice loss and the ND (insert synonym for dumpster fire) really killed any chance of this season being considered anything more than a very mild success.

I do like beating O$U. Glad Urban Meyer got a nice Big Ten scouting report during his fake tenure at ESPN. I’m sure he spent plenty of time with the family during that time

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by SmallMarketBigPlays on Nov 28, 2011 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

Agree entirely, TMill

I want to see a new offensive coordinator. I honestly don’t think Gary Emanuel was all that bad….but he needs to be given full control instead of sharing those duties. With that in mind…Gary Nord must go. I haven’t understood his playcalling and likely never will. We have the talent to be successful offensively.

by Jackson Brunner on Nov 28, 2011 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

Hope > Coordinators.

If I had to choose between a new head coach or new coordinators. I’d take the coordinators in a heartbeat.

by xBoiler on Nov 28, 2011 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

Same here.

I found myself drifting over to the “Fire Hope!” bandwagon after the Rice loss, but as the season wore on, it became more and more apparent to me that Hope really is NOT the problem. It’s the coordinators. I know most of us never thought we’d say it… but… I miss Brock Spack. And Jim Cheney.

I need to go wash my mouth out with soap now.

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by BoilerPaulie on Nov 29, 2011 3:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately...

I see Hope as a very loyal guy… to the point that he would never think of replacing his coordinators (unless they left on their own). It definitely is a step Danny should take, but I don’t see it happening. We will be in the same exact situation next season at this time (give or take a game). Just eeking into a bowl is not enough.

by boilergal on Nov 28, 2011 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

90% Quarterback Play

2010 should be completely thrown out when evaluating the offense. For a significant portion of the year, they were playing a quarterback who literally could not throw a football.

This year, admittedly more by choice, they were playing with one who couldn’t throw the ball more than five yards downfield. A good quarterback would change everything.

by Ray Williams? on Nov 28, 2011 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

Really?

I can’t see how any of us can see this season as a “success”. We almost got beat by IU Saturday, and we beat mediocre Illinois and OSU teams.

Marve was our #1 quarterback that the coaches hardly used (I know he’s not the greatest, but I blame that on injuries and some rash decisions). Henry is not a good QB, I don’t know who we should use as a starter next year.

I would expect more of the same next year, even lower attendance, and less money for the program.

by Kodiak33 on Nov 28, 2011 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

It's a success

because we made it to a bowl game even though it required the rest of the Big Ten to have a down year. After we lost to Rice, I figured we wouldn’t make a bowl game, so I guess making a bowl is a success after not making a bowl game for the previous three years, but I don’t get how we have got to a point where we have to celebrate meeting low expectations because we’re actually surprised to make a bowl game. Just hate to see what Coach Hope’s record would be if we had to play Michigan State and Nebraska during the Big Ten season. Also, regardless of what the record is, it’s clear our coaching staff does not usually put us in the best position to win.

by boilerg on Nov 28, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

IMO, winning at IU

just delayed the inevitable. At best, I see 5 to 6 wins next year and that, coupled with the dwindling attendance, will be enough to dump Hope. We just lost a year in the rebuilding process.

by Hummel's figurines on Nov 28, 2011 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

Expectations

I’ve found that that by having low expectations, I’m rarely disappointed.

That being said, I think new coordinators are the best we can hope for until Danny’s contract is up. Anyone have any suggestions for replacements? Of course, having top notch coordinators comes with its own issues, as they are typically lured away by head coaching jobs sooner or later.

BTFU!

by BoilerAdam on Nov 28, 2011 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

We’ll see the same exact thing next year as we saw this year. Is that “ok” with us now?! Seems to me like it is. We’re thrilled with a 6-6 season and a crappy bowl game if D-Hope is in the driver’s seat. Wake up, everyone.

by Bloomington.Boiler on Nov 28, 2011 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think anyone is happy with our 6-6 season

But happy with the team’s progress, even if it’s only progress in our mind.

by MNBoiler on Nov 28, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

coaches

I hate to be the bearer of hard facts but for as much as everyone is pining for the Tiller days he only had a .584 winning percentage which is about 7 wins a year. The fact is we do not have the kind of resources to compete in football and basketball year in year out with the 1000 lb gorillas of O$U, Michigan, and PSU. Our fanbase isn’t the same size and we don’t have a Phil Knight or T Boone pouring in millions of dollars to the program. While a 6-6 season isn’t cause to jump up and down it’s certainly not a reason to jump overboard. Sure we will have 10 win seasons, but unless we increase our funding those will be the exception not the rule, especially since bball is always #1.

by boilerrob on Nov 28, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

No one is saying that this team should be competing for the conference every year. Personally, I think we should be in the mix for the division about once every four years, when we have an experienced senior at quarterback. I think it is fair to expect this team to win the division once every 10-15 years, when everything goes right, and we get Minnesota and Northwestern. This team should never be worse than 5-7. That’s a loss to Notre Dame and 3-6 in the conference going forward.

Looking at how the schedule stacks up, winning 8 games in the regular season is going to be tough year in and year out. We’re generally going to be underdogs against Wisconsin, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, and Notre Dame. We play those five teams every season. The question is, will we be .400 against them over time, or .200? I’d be happy with the former. If it’s the latter, things are going to be pretty dismal.

by Ray Williams? on Nov 28, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I’m not saying mediocrity is something to be valued by any means, I’m just saying that everyone has to be aware of the financial constraints of major college athletics nowadays. I’d say below 6 wins should be a bad season 6-7 should be average 8-9 should be good and 10+ is probably once or twice a decade. I just feel like the best move for next year is to keep continuity and see if we can swing a good (8-9 win) season.

by boilerrob on Nov 28, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

2011 - Success in Bewilderment

The most frustrating part of this entire season was us never developing an identity. The team/staff seemed to enter each game with little knowledge of what they were going to do and how they were going to compensate for the strengths of the opposition. We can’t even decide on a quarterback! Let the first guy go out until we are behind, then try the other guy. When he screws up, switch back to the other guy, repeat.

Yes we are bowl eligible. Do we really trust that the additional practices that are the most valuable part of the bowl system will be used to develop this team, or even to practice fundamentals like tackling? I for one, do not.

If this season was a “success,” how do we judge success next year? 7-5. Do we really have to wait 4 years before we get back to relevance assuming our standard is win one more game than the previous year?

by 01Boiler on Nov 28, 2011 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

Thoughts on the Season

I like Danny Hope as a person, and obviously the players like him as a leader. I agree with those that have said the coordinators have to go. We have talent. We are faster as a whole, and I am greatly encouraged by our defensive front, and am looking forward to seeing someone develop the offense. However, Gary Nord is not that some one. Horrible head coach and horrible play caller. Go find some young hot shot who wants to prove himself and work for peanuts.

If Hope can better his record next year then lets declare a full out assault on the AD.

by boilerrx on Nov 28, 2011 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

Goals for next year
Going 3-0 against Eastern Kentucky, Marshall, and Eastern Michigan is another step.

Calling this a key step in the improvement of the program is an indication of what poor shape we are in now.

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 28, 2011 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

Bowl Inflation
Proportionately, more teams play in a bowl game now than in the NCAA Tournament.

In actual numbers as well – 70 bowl bids vs 68 NCAA spots

The percentage of eligible programs demonstrates how absurd the “prestige” of a bowl bid has become. It’s 3 times easier to be invited to a bowl (70 of 120 = 58%) than the Big Dance (68 of 348 = 19%).

Scheduling a meek non-conference slate and having the good fortune of playing most of the poorer B1G teams further waters down the glory of bowl eligibility. In 4 of those 6 wins, we won by the skin of our teeth. Most of you know this all to well, but I’m compelled to repeat myself when I hear people equating the last bowl bid to season success, or at the very least yoy program improvement.

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 28, 2011 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

+1000!!!!!

I would hardly call this season a success given the cupcakes non-conf schedule (minus ND), and then escaping a not-so-good MTSU, an atrocious Indiana team and a mediocre OSU team (if there was no block…). The Rice game we could have won, but that’s still 3-against-1. Also, in 3 other games (ND, UM, Wisky), we were completely blown out. Sure, we did it to poor SEMO and Minn, but that’s also 3-against-2. Anyway we look at it, we should be lucky to be 6-6 b/c we are more like a 4-8 team, and to me, that’s not a success.

And exactly as you point out, going to bowl these days just ain’t a “success” anymore. It isn’t even close when you compare the percentages.

by charlespig on Nov 28, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I call it a success

With three straight losing seasons, I think a .500 record is something we can all get along with for now.

Losing to another non-AQ team can’t happen again.

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by Danulas on Nov 28, 2011 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

All I've got to say is

this mediocracy sucks! To me the season is a success considering what we had to put on the field. Like someone said above about 90% QB play, if we had a better than mediocre QB we could have had higher expectations this year. I don’t believe it’s 90% QB play but it is a big part. I think the other big part which many others have mentioned is the offensive coordinator.

The thing that I’m not satisfied with is that we didn’t even beat one team with a winning record.

by Boiler00 on Nov 28, 2011 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

No way in the world....

…this season can be considered a success. Not even by the slimmest of margins. Barely squeezing by SEMO? Losing to Rice? Nearly getting beat by IU? Meantime looking like a bizarre mess against ND, Iowa and others?

On a day when Urban Meyer moves into the HC position for aOSU, and UCLA dumps Rick Nueheisel, it is just inconceivable to me how the program at Purdue gets better in the coming years by retaining the services of Hope.

If it’s “our coordinators” that are causing us all of our woes, who hired them? Who is overseeing those coordinators? Who continually puts in the same position game after game? Why is there no adjustments made at halftime that make any difference? To me, that’s all a blend of the headcoach and his attendant responsibilities.

I’m sorry if it comes off sounding ultra-defeatist and negative, but good Lord, I’m just ill from seeing this program look like a bunch of half-a$$ junior high school coaches trying to lead players that occassionally show flashes of brilliance when it matters the least.

There is talent on this team….but can the recruiting get any better when the coach/staff is excited just to make the Pizza Bowl, or Motor City Bowl ? It’s become really, really sad.

Get a coach that can change the culture of mediocrity and move us up a notch or two. At least to the days when Tiller first arrived. Otherwise, it’s just a Fall diversion that is fun to occassionally go and watch. If the school can’t / won’t build the program up enough to compete consistently for the B1G title, why should fans bother to show up? This goes right back to the same as when Matt Painter was being courted by Missouri. Does Purdue care to compensate their coaches and staff enough to pay them adequately, or are they simply going through the motions?

BTFU !!

by BoilerMacR on Nov 28, 2011 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

We beat SEMO 59-0

You’re thinking of MTSU

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by babaoreally on Nov 28, 2011 6:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not a success

I went to Purdue from 68-72 and we were ranked number 1 for part of 68. 8-2 was the worst that I remember and we wanted to fire the coach for not being 10-0. What happened – why is 6-6 a proud moment?

by BoilerRick on Nov 28, 2011 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

+1000

Exactly! Why even field a team if you have no realistic intention of competing for championships. Realistic intention = AD that wants to win!

by mtschohl on Nov 28, 2011 7:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed

If we accept losing on the basis that we don’t have the budget that Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan or Michigan State, Nebraska or Illinois have, then why even play in the big ten? Besides, Michigan State is playing in the Big Ten championship and there are plenty of other teams with budgets smaller than we have that are in the top 25, but I guess we should be superexcited to be 6-6.

by boilerg on Nov 28, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

It is still a step forward

These things take time to develop. Sure, it is not developing at the pace we want it to, but it is a step forward from last year

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 28, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

just saying

just saying that Purdue was an elite program in late 60’s and early 70’s, competing for big ten titles and even national campionships. Stadium was filled, what happened, Tiller brought some of the exitcitement back but just don’t see it now. I would love to go to real games, I’d travel if games where meaningful

by BoilerRick on Nov 28, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

You have stumbled on the solution!

We should just play football in the MAC. Then we’ll show ’em….. maybe.

by AAMB Boiler on Nov 29, 2011 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

goals vs. expectations

I think a conference championship should be a goal every year, but there is a difference between a goal and a reasonable expectation. We cannot expect to win a championship or have 10+ win seasons every year, and frankly, until the budget increases probably not even that consistently. I’m sure the AD wants to win every game, but he has to do so being constrained by a budget that makes it more difficult than some other schools.

I’m still in law school, but as soon as I get out I’m going to do everything I can to help increase that budget.

by boilerrob on Nov 28, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Different Times

College football has changed drastically since the 60’s & 70’s. Heck it’s changed a ton since Tiller was hired. For the most part school’s succeed by throwing 3 million dollars at coaches like a Saban or Meyer to win them National Championships. Purude will never have the cash to do that, and we need to except that.

What we should expect is a bowl game every year (6 wins shouldn’t be hard to do) with the occasional (every 3-5 years) great team that challenges for a title and beats ND, OSU and Penn. State.

If you expect 10 win seasons every year you are setting yourself up for dissapointment.

by Boiler17 on Nov 28, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Purdue and Fan Base Won't Pay For It

Face it, Hope is as good a coach as you’re going to get with what Purdue pays. Football is not the priority at Purdue like it used to be. It’s a catch 22 – The Fan base will have to pay for an upgrade in everything (coach, facilities…) and the Fans won’t go to the games until they win. Purdue just wants to be top 5-6 program in the B1G, they’re fine with that. I also don’t think kids want to play in the Midwest anymore. They want to go to Florida, Texas and California where the weather’s nice. Purdue is what it is. I wish it was a football and basketball school like it used to be, but it’s always been conservative in everything it’s ever done. The next coach will be lucky to get what Hope’s making. I think it’s one of the bottom 3 lowest paying jobs in the B1G. Get Danny new coordinators for a chance of success next year.

by buddha58 on Nov 28, 2011 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

Why?

Sumlin isn’t getting paid much more than Hope…

by charlespig on Nov 28, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

It all boils down to cash flow. No matter how you slice the team’s problems, it seems to come back to money. Sure you may not be able to buy wins, (Don’t tell Bo Ryan that though, I’m pretty sure there’s a limitless ATM for referees to access somewhere in the Kohl Center) but you can buy new practice facilities, new stadiums, new equipment, big name coaches, team trips to fun locations, etc. About the only thing you can’t buy in regards to a college football team is integrity, and I think it’s clear as of late that no one gives a damn about that. Lie, cheat, and steal your way to the top, take a slap on the wrist from the NCAA here and there, and you’ll have a dynasty in no time! I digress, if we ever want to get better as a program, some very wealthy boosters are gonna have to step up, (For example, I submit the case of USC. It’s been a few years ago, but the head of their parent booster club was Henry Winkler, The Fonz himself. They were a fixture in the top 5 at that time.) or the entire fanbase will have to start contributing to the effort, which is highly unlikely in today’s economic climate.

by AAMB Boiler on Nov 29, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Integrity

I almost said this earlier but one of the things I’m most proud about as a Purdue fan is that we are (so far) clean in this era of morality for sale. Sure we may not win 10 games every year, but for the most part our players follow the rules and when they don’t they are actually punished not just wrist slapped.

by boilerrob on Nov 29, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Not Trying?

Why do you continue to act like our players are just letting guys like Montee Ball and Malcolm Floyd have big games? These types of players have huge games against EVERYONE! I doubt our coaches and players are making “conscious decisions not to stop someone”.

Could the coaches have come up with better gameplans to stop these guys? Maybe, but I doubt it. They are great talents and very hard to slow down. Do you think Ricardo Allen wasn’t trying to stop Floyd? I mean if Ricardo is as good as people on this site made him out to be (Rico Island?) then shouldn’t the coaches expect him to go one on one vs. the other teams best player?

Moving forward if someone has a big game against us lets tip our hats and admit they might be better than anyone we have. I think it’s very insulting to our players to act like they aren’t trying to stop someone.

by Boiler17 on Nov 28, 2011 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

it is a decision whent hey go completely uncovered

McNutt was wide open all day long. We didn’t even make it difficult to go to him, despite him being one of hte league’s best

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 29, 2011 7:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Part of "The System"

Kind of like leaving the middle flat totally uncovered on third down.

That’s not a reflection of the kid’s effort, except when they become demoralized by being asked to implement such an obviously flawed plan.

Don’t drink the kool-aid. RISE UP!!

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 29, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

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