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Purdue 33, Indiana 25: Welcome Home, Old Oaken Bucket

It is never easy for Purdue. Most teams would feel extremely confident when facing a 1-10 team even if it was their rival. As someone who experienced the entire Tiller Era (it started when I was a senior in high school), I've grown used to a few things with Purdue football. The past few years where bowl games and blowouts of Indiana haven't been the norm have been a shock to the system. Even today, when we took a 33-17 lead, I never felt safe. I had good reason, as we were a controversial interception by Josh Johnson away from a very interesting ending.

It wasn't easy, but the Bucket is back home and safe after being gone for a year where it might as well have found Calgary apartments for rent because it was so far away. We're now guaranteed of almost 20 years where it was never missing from West Lafayette for more than a year. As usual, I did a road trip diary:

1:09pm - It is only an hour drive to Bloomington, but the Indiana traffic plan to deal with construction is simply, "Get there early" if you're coming in off of 37. Since I didn't leave on Thursday, we'll be going the back way of SR 135 to SR 45 in Beanblossom. It's a little out of the way, but there is virtually no traffic and it leads to the back parking lots by the baseball field about a block from the stadium. Therefore, it is time to leave.

1:17 - Mrs. T-Mill discovers the "Shop Local Saturday" Foursquare special through Amex, where if you spend $25 on your Amex at a local participating business, you get a $25 statement credit. 21st Amendment Liquors is participating, meaning $25 of free booze after the game. Woohoo!

Star-divide

1:42 - Chick-fil-a = the food of champions.

1:52 - I actually get pulled over on the new dual lane section of 135 in Greenwood. 55 in a 35. <grumble>

1:53 - "Just slow it down, sir." I get off with a warning. The cop must be a Purdue fan. Woohoo! Makers, All. No need to call Alex Hanna.

2:29 - State Road 45 is the curviest road in all of Indiana. I think we actually go upside down at one point.

2:31 - We are way too close to Bloomington to see a sign that says, "custom cornhole".

2:52 - Officially parked! If I went 37 I would arrive in time for kickoff of the 2015 Bucket game.

3:00 - Walking past Assembly Hall. Has anyone noticed it looks like a piece of the female anatomy from above?

3:06 - The IU football trailer. I am disappointed there is no Win Today on it. It would be begging for question marks.

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Photoshop courtesy Mrs. T-Mill

3:12 - Seated in section 10. There are plenty of Purdue fans around us and some very pleasant IU fans.

3:20 - IU starts showing highlights from its seniors' career. Half of them are from practice. I am not making this up.

All times now in game time:

15:00 1st - Commence Operation: Rescue The Bucket.

13:39 1st - There are a tone of Purdue students in the IU student section.

13:28 1st - A holding call is their best run defense as it brings back a big Ralph Bolden run.

12:15 1st - Cody Webster sees his struggles continue with a shank.

11:23 1st - 3rd and long for IU. "Cover the middle!"

10:47 1st - We do it! A rare three and out.

9:22 1st - We follow our second possession script of a bad rollout, followed by a read option for a yard, but Caleb TerBush gains a first down on a scramble.

6:56 1st - After we punt, the defense completely breaks down on a 52-yard touchdown run by Stephen Houston. Just awful execution. A 500-pound man in a rascal scooter would have scored on this play.

4:41 1st - Why would we try to run against one of the worst run defenses in the country? That's exactly what they would expect!

3:26 1st - Thank God its Indiana we're playing, as TerBush hits Antavian Edison for a 25 yard pass on 3rd and 23.

2:39 1st - Touchdown Edison! A 14-yard corner strike that might have been Caleb's best thrown pass of the season.

2:32 1st - GIBBONEY!!!!! (55-yard kickoff return by Kenny Mullen).

1:05 1st - All momentum is successfully pissed away when D'Angelo Roberts scores after a quick drive with a short field. The defense looks awful.

0:14 1st - Bolden has a big catch and run after TerBush gets another big run.

14:12 2nd - So far, the TerBush scramble is our best offense.

13:09 2nd - I see why it is our best offense as TerBush overthrows O. J. Ross on what should have been an easy TD pass. We settle for a Carson Wiggs field goal. 14-10 IU, and I have no confidence we can stop their offense.

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Another one in the Wiggy Bank

12:55 2nd - I officially cringe every time Wiggs fails to get a touchback.

9:59 2nd - Busted coverage leads to a huge QB scramble by Tre Roberson, who is going to b a dangerous player in this league.

9:32 2nd - Bruce Gaston gets a huge sack that makes the Hoosiers settle for a field goal.

8:41 2nd - Raheem Mostert busts a HUGE return to the 8!

8:37 2nd - This is what happens when you run the ball. Bolden goes in virtually untouched. 17-17!

7:27 2nd - We get the ball back near midfield after a punt. Time to run it more.

4:26 2nd - We do run it, but it only leads to a second Wiggs FG. 20-17, our first lead. Mostert makes a great tackle on the following kickoff.

1:49 2nd - Welcome to the game, defense. We've missed you. They must have been in traffic on 37.

1:10 2nd - Justin Siller catches a big first down.

0:26 2nd - Another dumb holding penalty threatens to kill the drive.

0:14 2nd - A TerBush WTF pass (after Robert Marve strangely leaves) leads to a third Wiggs FG. The Wiggy bank was open for business today.

Halftime - I wanted to mention that I met Rick Schmeig's brother, Doug on the concourse. Great reader and tweeter.

12:46 3rd - Once again, we have a completely uncovered receiver roaming for a first down. Nothing comes of it though.

11:12 3rd - Josh Johnson makes a big stop!

10:15 3rd - The official "Oh Shit" moment as Bolden makes a big play, only he goes down clutching his knee as he makes a cut. Immediately we all think it is a third ACL injury for him. He wouldn't return, and I feel sick to my stomach for a good kid. It deflates the rest of the quarter.

6:08 3rd - Roberson avoids about five tackles, but we get a stop.

5:56 3rd - We get a stop, but we get pinned deep and immediately hold to pin us even deeper.

4:30 3rd - The Wild Siller gets us out of trouble with a first down. We follow it with a false start.

2:35 3rd - Another first down, this time to Siller on the pass.

1:13 3rd - At least we have flipped the field on what ends up being the biggest drive of the game.

14:54 4th - Crosby Wright gets a big catch down to the 13!

13:53 4th - The Wild Siller falls short, but we move the ball almost 100 yards (by the time you account for penalties we overcome) and take a two-possession lead on Wiggs' fourth field goal.

13:00 4th - Joe Holland makes some more big stops as he had a huge game.

11:26 4th - Akeem Hunt would like to audition for the starting running back role with a huge 50 yard run. He would finish the day with 100 yards, all after the Bolden injury. It's just our second 100 yard rusher of the season.

11:04 4th - Edison's second TD sends the dozens of Indiana fans for the exits. I stand proudly and sing Hail Purdue loudly with the band.

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Edison's second TD

9:45 4th - The defense leaves early to beat the traffic, as Houston makes another huge run.

8:22 4th - Since it is against the rules of Purdue football to cruise to victory we give up a TD to Roberts and a 2-point conversion pass to Shane Wynn. It is officially sphincter-tightening.

5:26 4th - We get a first down, but later have to punt and we pint hem at the one.

5:13 4th - Johnson bails them out on 3rd and 10 from the one with a defensive hold. We now have the trifecta of offensive, defensive, and special teams holding penalties!

4:11 4th - The play of the game, as Johnson and the Indiana receiver both get the ball, but Johnson comes down with it as he rolls away at the 22. The simultaneous possession rule is in play, but strangely not reviewable. I admit this is controversial at best, and the IU fans will spend the remainder of the game bitching about it, considering they were laughing and making fun of when Gaston and Johnson collided and were down for awhile, screw them.

0:00 4th - Welcome home, Bucket! Siller and Hunt close it out with a few first downs. The last play ends with 39 seconds left, meaning a sweet running clock as we don't need to run a final play.

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Welcome home, bucket

So what did we learn from this season? I'll review my season predictions later this week, but I ended up only missing three games. I originally predicted we would beat Rice and Iowa, but Lose to Illinois. The rest of them I got right. Still, we played a very sloppy game and needed a controversial interception to beat the worst BCS team in the country so we could barely qualify for a bowl. This game was a lot like the entire season in that we were maddeningly inconsistent. I still don't have a lot of confidence in coach Hope and even less confidence in his coordinators, but the goal of a bowl game was accomplished. We're likely going to play somewhere else in December or January.

Judging by the way we played today, we're likely going to get crushed in said bowl game, but we now have those vital extra practices in which our redshirting guys can gain more experience and the seniors can play in one more game. It is a step forward after seasons of 4-8, 5-7, and 4-8. We at least finished .500 in the conference and beat two other bowl eligible teams. The downside is that we barely qualified for the postseason in a very down year for most of the conference, but we still got it done, which is more than Indiana and Minnesota can say.

Coach Hope will get another year now, but I am not confident in that year because of the inconsistencies we have seen. We're still a very undisciplined team that makes a ton of mistakes, but we at least have our Bucket back and the players get the reward of a bowl game. Next year needs to be better, but it is not here yet.

At least we don't have to stare at an empty trophy case in the Mollenkopf for another year.

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on an earlier thread (i forget who) compared hope to illinois’ ron zook (good enough to keep his job, not good enough for anything else) and i had to sit in a corner, hug my “Purdue – 2001 Rose Bowl” t-shirt and cry a little bit.

having said that, i know this was a terrible team we beat, but to me this was a more satisfying win than any other this season (osu and illinois included). the bucket is back home, safe and comfortable, and i finally get to enjoy the excitement that comes with postseason football. all is right with the world.

http://therailroadtie.com/

Boiler up!

by therailroadtie on Nov 26, 2011 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

That would be myself.

I wore my 2001 Rose Bowl hat today just to remember where we were.

Pathetic, right?

by boilerjake on Nov 27, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

naaaaaah

I was wearing a 2001 white Rose Bowl Brees jersey

To your call once more we rally....

by BoilerPaulie on Nov 27, 2011 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

First football open thread I've missed this year

As I was flying back from Thanksgiving activities on the east coast. I checked the score briefly in the Detroit airport and saw 33-17 early in the 4th quarter. At this point, I had two thoughts:

1. That’s the most points we’ve scored since Minnesota.
2. That is not enough points.

I’m glad I was wrong on the second point. As far as bowl games go, there are way too many predictions out there right now, so it’s not really worth the time to speculate, but let’s not forget Danny’s record against the MAC (2-2) or his post season record (0-1 in FCS playoffs).

Who knows with this team? If we get a bowl invite, I hope the players have fun and play well, but my outlook for the program hasn’t changed.

by Mattdsm on Nov 26, 2011 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

I was in the same boat

Plane took off before anybody had scored and when I landed we were up 23-17.

I thought it was a joke.

Seriously, though, I like our chances for getting into a bowl. Illinois finished the season worse than any 6-0 team ever and Northwestern’s fanbase just doesn’t stack up to Purdue’s.

I’m hoping it’s not the Little Caesar’s Bowl, but the bowl in Detroit is better than the bowl in the living room.

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by Danulas on Nov 27, 2011 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Lookin like there'll be 72-74 eligible teams for 70 spots.

TicketCity in all liklehood but its really a crap shoot.

Also, we have not scored in the third quarter in like the last six games. Hope’s halftime speeches must be atrocious.

by Strawmy on Nov 27, 2011 2:04 AM EST reply actions  

read somewhere

Hope doesn’t like halftimes

"The goal remains the same"

by TimeToPlayHard on Nov 27, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Refs, Glen Mason, and bowl game

First of all, how does a team with so few penalties never win one FBS game? The officials were horrendous. I also love how IUs players look so amped up and talk trash after every play for one full quarter each year. What a joke. My favorite penalty against us was the holding call on a punt where we called a fair catch. That was a Bloomington original.

If you missed the telecast, you missed Glen Mason at his best. He is a better coach than announcer and he was a terrible coach. He was all over both coaches and was full of back-handed compliments for Purdue.

As far as the bowl discussion goes, why are we still concerned about being overlooked? Trust me, I’m not that impressed with us either but we have to be more attractive than a lifeless Illinois team and an average N’western team aside from their improbable victory in Lincoln.

by grebek on Nov 27, 2011 7:11 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Because we only get about 45K fans

To come to our home games and 15K of those are from the other team.

by boiler-me84 on Nov 27, 2011 7:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That place is awful. What a circus

The retarded sound effects played on the PA. That stupid first down arm shuffling cheer they do. The fact in the background you see kids and adults even playing and running around paying no attention to the game. The cheering they did after Ralph got hurt. The horrible non-calls missed against their O line. F IU.

Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!

by BoilerUpAT on Nov 27, 2011 7:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Agreed. Cheering for an injured player is grounds for an ass kicking

Man I cannot wait for the officiating at Ass. Haul. I’ll bet GDB and Marcius get off the team bus with two fouls.

by SmallMarketBigPlays on Nov 27, 2011 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I know, not sure which is worse for that

Bo’s Hall of Calls or Ass. Hall.

Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!

by BoilerUpAT on Nov 27, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Its embarrassing!!!

Thank goodness Purdue does not have a first down dance that looks that uncoordinated and wussy… Or those weird hand motions they do on an opponents 3rd down! This is the first bucket game I have missed in years- to catch the lunacy during crowd shots on TV, may have actually made it look and sound worse( which I thought was impossible)!

by boilergal on Nov 27, 2011 10:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The fair amount of purdue fans around me and I

all agreed that it looked like they were on the monkey bars

by carlandybob on Nov 27, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

did you actually attend the game?

If so you’d know that IU fans were singing “hey, hey, hey… Goodbye” to some drunken asshole Purdue fan who chucked a full drink at a couple of middle school kids and subsequenty got thrown out. IU fans all cheered when Bolden got up. If anyone should be embarrassed at that sequence of events it’s Purdue fans. Now you all know what actually happened and can stop bringing it up.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Nov 28, 2011 1:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Wow!!!

People from multiple areas around the stadium knew about that one Purdue fan? Weird!!! Heard it from my cousin sitting in the IU student section and my friends sitting near the circus endzone (where visitors section began and butted up against IU fans). If those fans coordinate that well in a football stadium, perhaps they can help out the Paint Crew now that they are split on both sides of little ole Mackey!

by boilergal on Nov 28, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

possible.

It was quite the spectacle and it sure felt like everyone’s eyes were on that one event. I know you want every reason you can get to fan the flames of your hatred but in this instance your rant is misguided. Most calm and rational Purdue fans who were at the game will agree with me. No one likes to see players get hurt. I feel like that’s the one area of taunting that IU fans and Purdue fans all find unacceptable. I’m sure you’ll come back at me with another sarcastic post because you seem like an angry person but hopefully some of your more level-headed friends will realize that no decent human being taunts the injured no matter how fierce the rivalry.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Nov 28, 2011 2:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Wow, talk about angry...

Little guy, are you angry? I am just reporting what I heard from those that I know were there. I asked, since I saw things being stated on twitter. How this is “angry”, I am not quite sure? In your rational IU dictionary, sarcastic now equals anger! How people from opposite sides of a stadium can see the same individual being kicked out of the game… beyond me? That is amazing eyesight!!! Your reply is absolutely hilarious! Keep coming back, little buddy! Please let us all know how the entire stadium, people from opposite corners of the stadium, can see the same person being kicked out of the game and that is what they are reacting to? Pure comedy!

by boilergal on Nov 28, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

yikes.

You are easily riled. Hate to see how pissed you’d get at someone who was actually being combative.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Nov 28, 2011 2:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Seems like the gal hit the nail on the head

You are getting your feathers ruffled over a post that made fun of the little endzone shenanigans at the IU football games! Or was it that not all of your fellow IU fans behaved when a Purdue player was injured…possibly seriously? She states what she has heard and you call her angry. You, 87, seem like the only one angry in this situation! Seems like that fact that she was able to make fun of IU and put your assumption that everyone in the stadium was reacting to 1 fan to the test has gotten under your skin.

-Jim

by RxPurdue on Nov 28, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm bothered

That people watching the game at home could have misconstrued what happened as IU fans taunting an injured player. I still very much doubt that there were many people in the stadium who saw it that way. I do know for a fact that everyone in my section cheered when Bolden got up. I can’t refute boilergal since I don’t know individuals who were at all corners of the stadium who I could question, but I at least encourage those who think the whole of memorial stadium was taunting an injured player to ask someone who was at the game what occurred. I’d wager that the vast majority of them witnessed what I did.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Nov 28, 2011 3:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

There were people taunting injured players

Later on when Josh Johnson and Bruce Gaston collided tackling Roberson I did hear IU fans behind me laughing at them

A futile crusade to prevent mass ignorance

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 28, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Article on GoldandBlack.com, really concerns me.
“….But he knows it’s about more than just this team, this moment. He knows there may have been larger things at stake than just the Bucket or just a bowl.

There was a sense that players were playing to keep the coaching staff intact, too.

“That’s also a big part of it,” he said. “Guys can relax. You don’t really know what will happen with the coaches, but you know you did kind of a part to help those type of things out. To be able to get to a bowl and get us back on the right track. We’ve beaten teams, like Ohio State, years past, we’ve beaten good teams, but we’ve never really put it all together, so to be able to put it all together is good for our program.”

Receiver Antavian Edison echoed those sentiments.

“We love our coaches,” he said. "We’ve got a bunch of good coaches who have a very good knowledge of the game. I love these guys, and I love my team. I want nothing to change.

“All we want to do is make sure we win it for (Coach Danny Hope).”…."

Was the heat turned up for the coaching staff by MB? And the players knew about it? Am I reading into this too much? Do we just win games for Danny Hope?

Things that I disliked about this game, we still tackle like girls and the IU runners were untouched. We might have lost this game but for some reason Wilson changed game plans from let’s try to win, to let’s just give up, if they kept the run and stopped with the fancy passing, they probably play us just like last year but I am pretty sure their defense wouldn’t be able to hold us. We also started playing not to lose in the 3rd quarter, and it almost cost us. I think that ~95 yard drive was more about IU playing prevent defense.

DH isn’t as familiar with bowl games as most other coaches. How confident are we that we prepare and not make this a vacation? After all the injuries from the IU game, he is probably worries to play flag football.

My glass is still half empty in regards to our head coach.

by drboiler on Nov 27, 2011 9:20 AM EST reply actions  

I think they're probably just responding to things in the media/said around campus

I doubt any discussions between MB and DH are communicated to the players.

His players do really seem to like him and enjoy playing for him. Drew Brees has said some very flattering things about Danny and his time as O-line coach under Tiller. I’m sure it’s a very different perspective if you spend every day at practice with him, versus just seeing saturday afternoons like most of us.

Of course, if you had a boss who only said great things about you and didn’t seem to be bothered when your work didn’t measure up, you’d probably like the guy a lot too.

by Mattdsm on Nov 27, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO

Hope isn’t safe yet. If we do get crushed in a bowl game, that’s grounds for firing a coach. I think that losing the bowl would have the JPC members and Purdue donators in Burke’s ear just as a much as losing to IU would. This program needs a marked sign of progress…which is NOT simply becoming bowl eligible. We need to win the bowl game.

by Jackson Brunner on Nov 27, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

To follow up, my biggest issue is that our program must wait until the last week of conference play to get bowl eligible. How many other conference teams in the country qualified for bowls this past week? Good teams qualify for bowls in early-mid October, not over Thanksgiving. Heck even Tiller’s teams did that most of the time.

I think the players know, when looking at PU’s record the past 3 years (sometimes 4 if you count the lame duck year), that the program (head coach) isn’t producing. Which is why I think they always believe the must win for DH to keep his job. They like him but he cannot get the team to win like it should. When it comes time to potentially start looking for a new coach or decide whether to do so, whether or not DH likes the players, or the players like DH won’t come into consideration. Not sure if the Peter Principle was enacted when DH was hired to the B1G, but it seems like it.

I already read posts of fans on other free and paid sites, looking at next years schedule to see which games are winnable and how many it will take for DH to please the masses. We did this last year, and we are at 6-6 now. Not much improvement from what I read and took away from preseason.

by drboiler on Nov 27, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope Needs to Get New Coordinators

I like Danny Hope. I think Hope is a player’s coach and the kids rally around him. What he needs is new Offensive and Defensive Coordinators. Gary Nord was terrible this year and the defense looked lost. Hope has to go get new coordinators.

by buddha58 on Nov 27, 2011 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

Perfect Hope strategy

Gotta love the Hopeless strategy for this game, let IU score easily in 1 or 2 plays and don’t tackle anyone. That way our defense stays off the field and is fresh for the 2nd half. Our offense wears downs IU. You all underestimate the brilliance of the coach.
Anyway – hope Ralph Bolden is ok, he’s been through enough

by BoilerRick on Nov 27, 2011 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

Coaching Change

Being an ex-Boiler Player from the late 70’s it is difficult to watch this team and the way they play. I understand their is some positives with the program like GPA, NCAA rule compliant, little off field distractions, etc. But ultimately these coaches are paid to win games and after three years they have failed to deliver a winning record (unless they win the bowl game). When you look at the combined record of the teams they beat it is 21-47. In the Big10 and ND losses they were outscored 190-80. To date DH has a 15-21 record with a 10-14 Big10 record. Also in three + years PU has lost nearly 20,000 season tickets. Recruiting is not where it use to be with virtually none coming out of Indiana despite 2 of our last 3 #1 NFL picks being from Indiana. So as a fan base there isn’t a lot to be excited about. If the change is made it will cost some money, if MB is not willing to pay then you might as well keep DH and expect the progrm to continue to slide with teams like Minnesota, OSU, and Ill to pass PU due to their coaching changes.

by Middle East Boilermaker on Nov 27, 2011 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

Classmate

As a ex-Boiler from the late 70’s, I probably saw you play. We both also witnessed how quickly the program rose from Big Ten dregs under Agase in ’76 to three straight Bowl Games starting in ’78 – in no small part due to a coaching change and hiring the right guy.

Most on this board equate Tiller to Purdue football glory. As great as Joe was, Jim Young and Jack Mollenkoff fielded some national top ten teams as well.

I may actually know you – what number did you wear?

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 28, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

pessimism

I have never seen a fanbase so depressed after a rivalry win. While I agree that IU was not a good team this year they were young and young teams always play better at the end of the season rather than the beginning. IU threw some new stuff at us and we adjusted very well in the second and third quarters. I think everyone just needs to take a step back and enjoy being in a bowl game. We have a good recruiting class coming in and the worst possible thing we could do is shake up the staff right now. We are not Michigan or O$U, we will never get huge name coaches, and it will take some time to dig out of the hole left by the lame duck Tiller year. We are on the upswing unlike Illinois, Northwestern, and Penn State.

by boilerrob on Nov 27, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Yes we have a good class coming in

But we are real short on depth and talent on OL and to lesser extent on the DL.

I see it as a BIG problem for this program in the future.

Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!

by BoilerUpAT on Nov 27, 2011 8:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Three of the highest rated guys coming in are OL. We only lose 2/3 OL starters and 1 DL starter as long as Short stays. I feel like DL is one of the strong points of the team, and never underestimate how much a healthy Rob Henry could help the line with his mobility. Sure there could be problems, but as of now our major line recruiting needs have been addressed.

by boilerrob on Nov 27, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been saying the same thing

This would be a different year had Rob Henry not been out for the season. He fits our offense perfectly and it was proven the night of the Northwestern game last year.

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by Danulas on Nov 28, 2011 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

We did still (somehow) finish 3rd in our division too

It was terribly ugly and most of our games didn’t really make sense but we actually finished all right.

I’m not extremely happy with Hope being back for another year, but I think he has at least earned another chance.

by BoilerchE on Nov 28, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not too surprised

that the fanbase isn’t superexcited about beating a team that doesn’t have a single Big Ten win by 8 points. We may not be Michigan or OSU in terms of brand name, but we shouldn’t be losing games to Rice and Iowa, especially if we can beat Ohio State. What exactly have you seen from Coach Hope that shows we’re going to be better than 6-6 any time soon? We played one of the weakest possible (i mean possible considering our division in the Big Ten) football schedules ever this year and only made it to 6-6. I’m glad we made it to a bowl, but I’d rather have a coach who can get the best out of the players, rather than plan on playing as many cupcakes as possible and hoping that our players can scratch out six wins in spite of the poor coaching.

by boilerg on Nov 28, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

look at who our starters actually are

Most of those guys were the low 3 star or 2 star guys from our previous classes. That means Hope is developing some raw athletes into football players. One of the defining play calls I saw this year was a 12 yard gain: after 2 straight weeks of scoring on tunnel screens even the somewhat casual fan saw it coming in the redzone, the next game he called a fake tunnel screen/lateral that completely fooled 3 defenders. Sure it may have been a small thing, but he’s breaking tendency. I’m not trying to get on a soapbox here, but again don’t underestimate how much losing Henry that close to the season hurt early on. Football is a system game and to have to completely change strategies with less than a month to go beccause of how different a QB Terbush is really hurt us for that first month.

by boilerrob on Nov 28, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Purdue and Fan Base Won't Pay For Top Coach

Face it, Hope is as good a coach as you’re going to get with what Purdue pays. Football is not the priority at Purdue like it used to be. It’s a catch 22 – The Fan base will have to pay for an upgrade in everything (coach, facilities…) and the Fans won’t go to the games until they win. Purdue just wants to be top 5-6 program in the B1G, they’re fine with that. I also don’t think kids want to play in the Midwest anymore. They want to go to Florida, Texas and California where the weather’s nice. Purdue is what it is. I wish it was a football and basketball school like it used to be, but it’s always been conservative in everything it’s ever done. The next coach will be lucky to get what Hope’s making. I think it’s one of the bottom 3 lowest paying jobs in the B1G.

by buddha58 on Nov 28, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh!

Judging by the way we played today, we’re likely going to get crushed in said bowl game, but we now have those vital extra practices in which our redshirting guys can gain more experience and the seniors can play in one more game.

Travis, you are a miserable fan!

BTFU and POTFI!!

by Boilerzz94 on Nov 27, 2011 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

FTFY

“Travis, you are a miserable Purdue fan

"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"

by Boiler Bandsman on Nov 27, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think

we have a better chance in a bowl game than most people here think. Give us some more practices to get our OLine to mesh, get Hunt and Mostert more involved, and get some creative play calling in there (the last probably won’t happen). Get the timing down for at least one quarterback with the wide receivers, and I think we can easily win a bowl game. I would also like to see more Siller in the wildcat

by Purdue_it on Nov 27, 2011 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

Bingo
get Hunt and Mostert more involved

I can’t get enough of those two.

Reaction images? I got 'em
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by Danulas on Nov 28, 2011 1:35 AM EST reply actions  

I’d put money on Hunt getting a ton of carries in the bowl game now that he’ll get the reps in practice.

by boilerrob on Nov 28, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Akeem Hunt

is a player that I’m stoked about. No question.

by Jackson Brunner on Nov 28, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

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