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Purdue 91, Iona 90: Will I Be Alive At Christmas?

I am concerned that Kelsey Barlow is going to be the cause of my first basketball-related stroke. Taking advantage of the fact I was home alone today to watch the game, I was the screaming, raving fool that I usually am when it comes to basketball. Barlow probably had my neighbors wondering if something untoward was going on in my apartment. His half court heave (that ended up being absolutely huge in the end) had me running around the place woohooing like Homer Simpson. His boneheaded and sometimes lazy plays in the second half had me searching for new curse words. Today was the ultimate GDB day, where he had some great plays, and some really dumb mistakes.

Because of that, I am going to have a stroke. It is only a matter of time.

We should still be encouraged, however, because Iona played nearly the same style that VCU did eight months ago that torched us with in the second round of the NCAAs. Scott Machado was excellent at forcing the tempo and keeping us off balance in transition. I was more than happy to see him foul out in the final minutes. Michael Glover was a difficult player on the low block in that he was simply quicker than Travis Carroll. Finally, Lamont Jones was the athletic guard that diced us up as he hit threes and created his own shot.

We survived though. While we got cut up in March, but we found a way to at least keep pace and not fall too far behind today. We had some missed opportunities, specifically a two-minute stretch where we led 74-69 and had three possessions to push it out further, but could not do so. We also had Barlow miss two huge free throws with 2:48 left that almost ended up being gigantic. Still, we found a way to win. In the process, I think we learned a few things that will greatly benefit us in the long run if we apply them.

Star-divide

Positives From The Iona Game:

Robbie Hummel - Some of us wondered if he would be the go-to guy in the clutch. We have our answer today with his absolutely huge game-winning three. Rob simply put us on his back for stretches today, whether he was driving to the hole to start the second half or burying that dagger of a triple to win it. Just imagine how good he'll be when he starts hitting free throws again.

Lewis Jackson - We're a different team with LewJack in, especially against smaller teams like Iona. When he picked up his fourth foul with over eight minutes left the offense was way too stagnant without him. LewJack's speed and ability to get the basket are huge in games like this. More importantly, he kept the defense honest by hitting a big three and even went 4 for 5 from the line.

Jacob Lawson - I am going to say this right now: Jacob Lawson is our best post player and absolutely needs to be in at the end of games. His athleticism is more than Carroll and Sandi Marcius. He is a better rebounder, a better shot-blocker, and offensively he has a better chance of picking up a garbage basket or two off of an offensive rebound. I made that last point during the Open Thread, and sure enough, he got an offensive rebound and putback with 1:59 left that gave us a four-point lead. Sometimes it is not how much you score, but when you score that matters. That basket was probably the biggest basket of the game other than Rob's game-winner.

Ryne Smith - I almost feel like we need to run him off screens like the Pacers used to do with Reggie Miller. His one two-point shot was a miss almost because he was too close. Once again, he hit some shots to kill runs and save our hide. Just please hit your damn free throws next time!

Anthony Johnson - I think AJ needs to be part of our crunch time lineup now because of his scoring ability. Ryno, AJ, Rob, Lawson, and LewJack seems to be our best offensive lineup.

Good GDB - Thankfully, good GDB outweighed bad GDB today. 17 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, and two steals are a great game for him. I can do without missing clutch free throws, two dumb turnovers, a few lazy defensive moments, and poor selection. The half-court shot was certainly beautiful, and technically was part of a 12-0 runt hat spanned halftime.

D.J. Byrd - He didn't do a lot, but the way he played up the elbow to the face was Oscar-worthy and got us a critical flagrant foul when the game was starting to get away from us a little.

Negatives From The Iona Game:

Defense - Needless to say, giving up 90 points in a game and repeatedly getting shredded on coast-to-coast drives is not what we want to do. It could have been worse in the first half if seven turnovers had not given us 13 points. Taaj Ridley and Jermel Jenkins joined Ridley, Jones, and Glover in double figures, mostly because of their passing ability and quick play. We continue to get burned on backdoor cuts and dribble penetration, but I trust coach Painter to fix this. It helps that we don't play a lot of running teams like Iona.

Free Throws - I understand Ryno missing the last free throw on purpose. It made them use their last timeout on the rebound rather than throwing the ball to midcourt, using the timeout, and setting up a better play for the final shot. The other 10 misses though... I think I will light myself on fire if Robbie misses five free throws in a row at some other point this season. Lawson needs to knock his down too, especially since he may be shooting a lot because of his offensive rebounding ability.

Carroll and Marcius (offense only) - Defensively they did pretty well. Carroll was setting screens, had six rebounds, and two steals. Offensively these guys are too timid and need to finish around the basket better. Marcius had one chance and made a good move on his man, but didn't finish. Carroll had a few ill-advised shots and missed another chance at a dunk. We're never going to run the offense through them, but they have to take advantage of their chances.

LewJack's fouls - Judging by how much we struggled when he wasn't in there, we have to keep him out of foul trouble. Barlow does not run the offense as well as him. In fact, I think I would rather have Terone Johnson as backup point now. Barlow is a much better rebounder and needs to be a forward.

Up Next:

Now we get a Temple team that had a much easier time today, but they are still solid. From what I can see in looking at the stats they don't shoot the ball as well as Iona, but the Gaels may have had a really hot day today. Juan Fernandez and Ramone Moore lead them in scoring, but they were taken to overtime by an Ivy League team (Pennsylvania) and beat a MAC team. They are getting votes in the polls like us, but we might be their first major test.

Fatigue could be an issue. They played mostly a six man rotation against Penn and today against Western Michigan was more of the same with Moore scoring 15 points. All five starters were in double figures, but they got only four points off the bench. We need to increase our defensive pressure and wear them down because they aren't quite as deep as Iona.

Defensively they are pretty tough though. They limited Western Michigan to sub-35% shooting and Penn to 46%. Iona is probably a better team than them, but not by much.

Finally, by staying in the winner's bracket we get to expand on our NCAA resume. Playing Temple once is better than a second game against Western Michigan since we play them next week. The final against Alabama or Wichita State will be another solid opponent. Let's get the job done tomorrow.

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I was blown away at how short our offensive possessions were today. Even gottleib could tell Iona was getting tired and lazy on defense and we let them off the hook by taking bad shots early in the shot clock. We almost need a Norman Dale rule. 5 passes before we shoot. I don’t like playing games in the 90’s. If we slowed pace and hit free throws we win 85-75.

by DocBoiler on Nov 17, 2011 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

Another

afternoon of text messages and gamecast at work, nothing will be done for 2 hours again. And I think it is more frustrating reading about bad GDB then it is watching.

Lets beat Temple! Boiler Up

by BoilermakerAustin on Nov 17, 2011 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

Rebounding

Nice to see the Boilers hold their own on the boards today. Total rebounds were even at 41-41 and Purdue had the edge on the offensive glass 12-7. Hummel looks like his added muscle is helping him hold position better, that helped him lead the way with 9 boards. Barlow chipped in with 7 – big part of why he is on the floor. Carrol with 6 in 24 minutes and Lawson with 5 and 14 minutes were extremely productive on the glass as well.

by mfortman09 on Nov 17, 2011 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

Carroll is an offensive liability

but he is getting much better defensively and on the glass. Can’t discount six rebounds and two steals from him.

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 17, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

for as much as people were bemoaning his play yesterday, there were positives. His steals early on were critical in keeping us in the game when it looked like Iona might run out to a big lead.

by septimusharding on Nov 17, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I'm sorry for that; I just can't get over his offense.

He misses wide open layups, airballs hook shots, and catches then passes right back as soon as he gets the ball.

by Bloomington.Boiler on Nov 18, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

He was better than that last season

But then he wasn’t asked to do much but just shoot 15-footer while JJ did all the work. I guess Sandi and Carroll suffers the same issue. I am VERY concerned about these two as they are offering little help. And really, Lawson just plays with a lot more passion and fearless.

by charlespig on Nov 18, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, we should have a height advantage over them

But then, considering we don’t get much defensive rebounds (they were red hot shooting) I am happy to see how we did on the offensive end. And kudos to Lawson for grabbing 5. He also got a steal off the other team’s rebound and put back that turned out to be huge.

by charlespig on Nov 18, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

BIG TEN

Setting college basketball back decades when we have low scoring games. BUT, when a BIG team is in a high scoring affair it is not because of good offense, but because of lack of defense.

“But today’s game — a 91-90 Purdue win in the Puerto Rico Tip-Off — was less an offensive explosion than a demonstration of mutually assured defensive ineptitude. "

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/39115/purdues-iona-win-offensive-to-defense

by Boiler_Ditsor on Nov 17, 2011 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

Whatever

We won. That’s all that matters

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 17, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Brennan's being quite fair

He mentions that Painter can and probably will beef up the defense.

There may be a bit of hyperbole in “mutually assured defensive ineptitude,” but really, we made some pretty basic mistakes that I don’t think we’ll be making later.

I saw some iffy refereeing but I also saw us let some pretty easy chances happen, and I saw us take quick shots. This team will learn.

by Beavis Beefcake on Nov 17, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't blame the ref

There are undoubtedly questionable calls, but I think they kinda even out, at least I don’t think it hurts us any more than it hurts Iona. Our defense is really off. Fifty points and them shooting 56% in the first half and making their PG like Steve Nash? How many times do you see the guy just run full steam, drawing help defense b/c our guy couldn’t keep up with him, and he just dumped the ball to a guy down low for an easy bucket?

by charlespig on Nov 18, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagree

Both teams were very,very hot in the first half, especially Iona. It was not completely poor defense.

by Crunchy on Nov 18, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

If you play bad defense,

the other team will get hot for sure. Frankly, the only guy I see playing the type of defense that we used to see – is DJ Byrd. He was IN YOUR FACE all the time. Too bad it looks like his ankle is limiting his minutes.

by charlespig on Nov 18, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Future

Just think what Lawson and AJ will be doing senior year!? It will be awesome!

by BTFUWlala on Nov 17, 2011 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

Add In

‘12 class as Juniors. Can’t wait to see what’s ahead, equally excited for Robbie’s Run to unfold.

by wiseman.andy on Nov 17, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't forget the '13 class as sophmores
  1. Indian recruit so far in the ’13 class along with two very good other players and a possible Derek Willis? That team will be stacked.

by herby20 on Nov 17, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I was going to ask

whether you meant “dots” or “feathers”

BTFU!

by BoilerAdam on Nov 17, 2011 9:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I know I shouldn't, but I can't help it!!

Push Start or Pull Start?

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 18, 2011 7:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Whatever!

One time I got swatted at the Co-rec from some Indian dude who was like 6’5. Kid was like Dhalsim.

by Bloomington.Boiler on Nov 18, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Barlow needs to play wing rather than pg against quick teams

we need his rebounding- and he makes a lot of bad decisions at the point. We need to get someone some legit experience backing up LewJack for the future.

by GreenBayBoilermaker on Nov 17, 2011 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

Ryne Smith

No way did he try to miss that last free throw. Down 2 in stead of 1 is a huge difference

by daross9406 on Nov 17, 2011 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

He absolutely did....miss the FT...force time off the clock.....

Making it only gives us a 2-pt lead…worthless because they have to heave a 3 regardless.

by dropnthrow7 on Nov 17, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably didn't matter

They didn’t have time to get to 2-pt range anyway.

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by boilerslim on Nov 18, 2011 7:40 AM EST up reply actions  

You're right

he absolutely did miss the FT, just not on purpose. He put his hands on the back of his head in frustration as he walked away from the line on the second miss.

by Boiler00 on Nov 18, 2011 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I didn’t get the impression that he missed the last one on purpose. In any case, we are making more 3s and at a higher percentage than free throws, and even automatic like Ryne and Robbie aren’t so anymore. What the hell is happening?

by charlespig on Nov 18, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

people at work were watching me

Twitch and cringe while watching Gamecast on my iPhone. It was hard, HARD watching a game like this at work where I couldn’t act myself (cursing, throwing stuff, yelling at my dog, praying out loud, etc). Guess I have to do it again tomorrow.

BTFU

Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!

by BoilerUpAT on Nov 17, 2011 8:53 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

You have WL Tourettes

H&R is actually the seven step program for that affliction.

I don’t think it’s helping.

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 18, 2011 7:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I hit refresh on the gamethread on my phone about 40 times in the first 12 min of my ethics lecture

After the game, I leaned my head back on the wall, sighed relief, and put the phone away. Luckily, my noon lab is cancelled tomorrow, so I will be parked in front of my TV and probably losing my mind over GDB throwing the ball away then dunking from the 3 point line.

by rbbaker on Nov 17, 2011 8:58 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Carroll

Looks slow and lost. He’s shown flashes of serious talent and potential, but not so much today. Feels like if he had a better understanding of what’s going on around him he could be a real contributor. Seems like his presence inside on offense is lost and we’re afraid to going to him cause he’s always a 1/2 sec behind. I would be highly in favor of starting Lawson, and honestly shocked if he’s not starting come conference.

by wiseman.andy on Nov 17, 2011 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

I think some people are being a little too harsh on Carrol cause he has provided some positives but I do think that based on the end of the game Lawson should start. I just hope that Lawson can stay out of foul trouble and is in good enough shape to contribute starter minutes.

by JAZ1142 on Nov 17, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I did really like

Carroll’s outside jumper last season. Haven’t seen it much this year. Box score says Lawson’s equal to Carroll with 10 less minutes. Really, I just like watching him pretend he’s playing volleyball.

by wiseman.andy on Nov 17, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Lawson

I think Lawson may have foul issues this year if you expose him too much. Sometimes you have to shorten games, especially for young, inexperienced players. His ceiling is extremely high, though. But on the other side, the more experience he gets the quicker he reaches that ceiling…? That’s why Coach P gets paid….

by Crunchy on Nov 18, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Last year

He was just making the other team pay with a little 15-foot jumper when they double-teamed JJ. This year, w/o the benefit of JJ to get him so wide-open, he moved back and shot around the 3-pt line, and he hasn’t been knocking those down. When our team’s biggest need is in rebounding and interior defense, I’d have to say I want Lawson more minutes than Carroll.

The guy I am most disappointed is Sandi. He picked up 2 quick fouls and never see the floor again. Unfortunately it looks like all the “improvements” he’s had during the offseason is mostly gone. Hopefully after P.R. when we get back to facing some cupcakes we can get Sandi back on track.

by charlespig on Nov 18, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Terone still looks a bit slow coming back from surgery

I would like to see Byrd out there more than Terone until Terone is fully healthy again.
I’m curious what would happen if we went with a big lineup. Something like G-Barlow, G-Byrd, G/F-Hummel, F-Lawson, F-Carrol.
I know other teams run lineups like this but I’m guessing the reason we don’t try something like this is because it isn’t fast enough on defense.

by JAZ1142 on Nov 17, 2011 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

Speed is a factor

as we saw today. I would switch out Carroll for AJ and I like that lineup. Tough and quick.

by wiseman.andy on Nov 17, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously

you didn’t notice that when LewJack wasn’t in the game we didn’t do very well running the offense. I don’t think Barlow runs it nearly as efficiently as LewJack and thats definitely something we need.

by mfennema on Nov 17, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

If we ever saw a lineup like that. I’d expect Hummel & Byrd to end up function as dual point forwards basically.

by septimusharding on Nov 17, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to see more Byrd too

But then he is even less healthy than Terone. I have to say though, he is the only one who plays IN YOUR FACE defense that we grow to love in CK3.

by charlespig on Nov 18, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

c'mon

ryne smith does sometimes. he usually tries to anyway.

by Boiler00 on Nov 18, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

This is kind of obvious, but damn how well is Robbie playing?

31 minutes a game
12-23 from 3
13-26 from 2
5 boards a game
3.5-1 A-TO ratio

Take away the ridiculously bad free throw shooting (1-5 so far!), and I don’t think we could have asked for anything more from his first 3 games.

by septimusharding on Nov 17, 2011 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

How is that possible

How is one person that good?

Reaction images? I got 'em
Senior All-American Alto Sax

by Danulas on Nov 18, 2011 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I said it in the gamethread, but

If anyone is interested, I will probably be heading to Jakes or Harrys tomorrow afternoon to watch the game after class with a friend or two. If you are interested, just leave a reply and we will find a way to meet up.

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by benjapal on Nov 17, 2011 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone in the Indy area want to meet up?

I could certainly use a buddy in case another GDB play gives me a heart ailment

by rbbaker on Nov 17, 2011 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

What part of Indy?

Living downtown here.

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 17, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, class is at IUPUI

get done around noon, willing to meet up either downtown or west side

by rbbaker on Nov 17, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm right downtown

Fall Creek & Meridian

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 17, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

H&R indy branch meet somewhere?

Champps, Scottys, or anywhere with a decent beer selection

by rbbaker on Nov 17, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I can do an hour for lunch.

Can we do Kilroy’s? Good food, cheap lunch specials, great beer selection, lots of tv’s.

Jordan

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by JordanLegend on Nov 18, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

sure, that works

What time is good?

by rbbaker on Nov 18, 2011 9:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So the Temple game is at 1 Purdue time right?

Im hoping so I can watch teh game before I depart for God’s country tomorrow afternoon

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by HawkeyeBoiler on Nov 17, 2011 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

Random....

… but any Hammer and Rails members in the Detroit area?

by DTownBoilermaker on Nov 17, 2011 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

Brighton

I’m from Brighton, I worked down in Melvindale during the summer but I am currently attending Purdue right now

by Ben Griscom on Nov 18, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Shot in the dark...

Everyone else is doing it…any readers in the Fort Wayne area?

by boiler3553 on Nov 17, 2011 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

Fort Wayne

Yessir! Representin the Fort! Boiler Up!!

by Boilerup4 on Nov 18, 2011 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Better question

Who all is attending the OHMR tailgate bash?

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by HawkeyeBoiler on Nov 17, 2011 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

I think a dedicated thread for this is in order....

It would be great to know about “others” in my area. I am in the land of green and white and maze and blue, so misery could use some company ;-)

by DTownBoilermaker on Nov 17, 2011 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

Best of luck to you brother

Those are neutral parts for boilers, so hopefully B1G allegiances help you

by rbbaker on Nov 17, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Zone??

Watching Iona run through our defense I started to lament about how I wish we could throw out a zone every once in a while, especially out of a Time Out or out of bounds play. I LOVE good in your face man to man, but sometimes it’s smart to mix it up.

Team’s know exactly what they are getting from Purdue, and it makes it extremely easy to gameplan for us. With this being Iona’s first game how many times do you think they watched the VCU game and talked about beating Purdue’s man to man. I think they knew exactly what to expect and then exploited it.

by Boiler17 on Nov 18, 2011 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

True..

It’s like Hope’s offense. You can only throw a bubble screen so many times before people figure it out and adapt.

by nps311ap on Nov 18, 2011 3:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but

The bubble screen has worked many times this year. It’s all about executing on what you do best.

by PurdueBoiler1995 on Nov 18, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, agree, but...

I doubt you will ever see it. I think Painter has said it before, that he’d rather be VERY VERY VERY GOOD in one than good in two. He wants to spend the practice time into perfecting his man-to-man defensive scheme than to work on a zone and get his players confused. So while I see your point, I think there is some merit to Painter’s single-mindedness. And man-to-man can just be as effective as a zone if the defense communicates and provides the help defense and double-team when appropriate.

Having said that, our man-to-man defense thus far this season is not up to par. The only one playing solid D is DJ Byrd.

by charlespig on Nov 18, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Anyone wanna meet up to watch the game

Prolly be going to Jakes for after school club, wouldn’t mind watching the game too

by xBoiler on Nov 18, 2011 12:37 AM EST reply actions  

Thoughts over 3 games:

>————Playing Great (except free throws):———-<

Robbie Hummel (living up to the hype)
Lewis Jackson (we need him to drive & shoot more like he did vs Iona)
Ryne Smith (shooting 60% from 3s, what happens when that comes down to normal numbers)
Anthony Johnson (doesn’t look like a redshirt freshman out there)
 

>———Playing Decent but inconsistant:———-<
 
D.J. Byrd
Kelsey Barlow (scoring/rebounding well but has made some bad choices)
Terone Johnson
 

>———Showing glimpses:———-<

Jacob Lawson (needs to work on offense but defense/rebounding is coming along nicely)
 
 

>———Below expectations:———<

Travis Carroll (rebounding/misc stats decent but averaging 2.5 pts in 20 mins while shooting an ugly 25% from the field. For a big man around the basket that sucks.)
Sandi Marcius (has hardly played after 1st game)

by TheBox on Nov 18, 2011 9:02 AM EST reply actions  

You are not alone!
I was the screaming, raving fool that I usually am when it comes to basketball.

Same here!!! I find myself keep saying “Gotta play harder; gotta put more pressure in our defense; gotta out-hustle them; DAMN IT! (when Iona once again scored an easy bucket)”

His half court heave (that ended up being absolutely huge in the end) had me running around the place woohooing like Homer Simpson.

I didn’t run around, but I am sure my wife wasn’t pleased when my sudden scream scares her as she just walks by.

His boneheaded and sometimes lazy plays in the second half had me searching for new curse words.

I am a bit disappointed with Barlow. He was supposed to be the ace in our defense, but honestly, I see my passion in playing defense in DJ Byrd with a broken ankle than Barlow. GDB got crossed over and barely made a casual attempt to get back to the ball. Come on Barlow, you can do much better than that! I’ve picked you as my pre-season Breakout Player of the Year!

I am going to have a stroke. It is only a matter of time.

Me too, but not necessarily with Barlow. All these games decided by a last-second shot is gonna kill me. It already takes off a couple years in my life expectancy.

But then, that’s what life is all about! Play with passion, and enjoy the ride!

by charlespig on Nov 18, 2011 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

Is there seriously another game in 3.5 hours?

Productivity fail. Thankfully I planned ahead and carved out some time. 1 PM is the new 5 for college Fridays.

by Caleb Benner on Nov 18, 2011 9:35 AM EST reply actions  

Anyone know?

If the game is available online anywhere? Took 2 1/2 hrs yesterday for lunch and doing it again today may result in my un-employment….

but it might be worth it!!!

by Byrd"s The Word on Nov 18, 2011 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

Urrr, not so sure on this
We continue to get burned on backdoor cuts and dribble penetration, but I trust coach Painter to fix this.

Northwestern has burned us with backdoor cuts year after year. I think that’s the one achilles heel of our type of defense that we may never fix :-(

by charlespig on Nov 18, 2011 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

and America's WW II Submarines leaked

The US Navy had to choose between expending massive resources to build a sub that didn’t leak, or spending those resources on powerful torpedos and an awesome bilge pump.

The point is, no defense is perfect. Every one had weaknesses. It’s all about resource management. If you spend the bulk of your resources shutting down the opponents primary offensive weapons, you can afford to get nicked by occasional back door play.

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 18, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree

That’s why I wasn’t complaining (unlike when 3-and-long and we didn’t cover the middle as per the genius Danny Hope). The way to play against an aggressive D is to go backdoor on them (kinda like a screen play in football when the defense is overly pursuing).

Having said that, we are NOT playing up to our standard in our bread-and-butter man-to-man. We no longer have the luxury of having JJ down low to protect the rim and bail us from our mistake. Everyone needs to take a step up and getting IN YOUR FACE when playing defense (I only see Byrd doing it). Or, start Lawson b/c supposedly Carroll is better b/c he can contribute on the offensive end, but he hasn’t. The athleticism of Lawson reminds me of a freshman JJ.

by charlespig on Nov 18, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree - M to M not there yet

But I agree with TMill, Matty will get ’em there.

Personally, I find Lawson MUCH more athletic that JJ was as a frosh. JJ was a bit rickety and skittish back then. Lawson is a predator.

As I’ve said before, the thing that excites me most about this team is what AJ and Lawson have added. I really feel like they will make a meaningful contribution this year. Last year, we all held our breath when we had to play the first year guys (TC, Chooch and to a lesser extent TJ) in the game.

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 18, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Lawson...

is a beast and really eats up space. JJ and him are two completely different types. JJ will never be the type of true interior force that Lawson can be and Lawson will never be the dangerous offense threat JJ is. haven’t seen someone like Lawson at purdue in a very long time.

by ZoKnowsDefense on Nov 18, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Arnette Hallman?
haven’t seen someone like Lawson at purdue in a very long time.

Next year Lawson could be Arnette to Hammon’s Joe Barry.

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 18, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Old school beast

The man could flat out leap. Though JBC was 7’2", Lee Rose would send Hallman (at 6’8" or so) to center court for the opening tip every night.

Rumor has it that part of the Mackey renovation repaired dents in the aluminum dome left by decades ago by Hallman’s ’fro.

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 18, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't Help...

when you got guys like LewJack limping his way through the game, TJ not quite 100%, Byrd with a bad ankle, Hummel still not up to 100% gamespeed, Ryno who plays his heart out but is not athletic enough to keep up with some, AJ still learning to play defense, Barlow’s irritating episodes of utterly unfocused play, Lawson just a three game freshman, and Carroll and Marcius still figuring out where they need to be on the floor. Defense is a process and this is going to take some time before everyone is healthy and on the same page about defense.

by ZoKnowsDefense on Nov 18, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

March

I don’t think AJ and Lawson will be playing like freshmen come tournament time.

We have all year for them to learn and grow.

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 18, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Looks like...

Everyone is ready for game 2. Boards are active.

by Boiler_Ditsor on Nov 18, 2011 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

RE: Iona

I cannot tell you how many times during my youth that I had my heart broken momentarily by the scrolling ESPN sports ticker thinking my Hawkeyes had lost games to the likes of Niagara and Hofstra. Stupid Iona.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Nov 18, 2011 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

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