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Purdue 26, Ohio State 23 OT: Today We Spell Redemption M-A-R-V-E

WEST LAFAYETTE, IN - NOVEMBER 12: Robert Marve #9 of the Purdue Boilermakers is mobbed by teammates after rushing for the game-winning touchdown in overtime against the Ohio State Buckeyes at Ross-Ade Stadium on November 12, 2011 in West Lafayette, Indiana. Purdue defeated Ohio State 26-23 in overtime. (Photo by Joe Robbins/Getty Images)

I can honestly say that today's game probably shaved about five years off the end of my life. Sure, they are the wheelchair, adult-diaper wearing years, but for the entire second half I felt as if I was on the verge of hyperventilating. I know it is never easy for us. I am to the point that if we need one play to seal a game defensively, like we did today, we simply will not get it. Once Jordan Hall caught Braxton Miller's heave with under a minute to play I was already thinking about a final drive while they were setting up for what was a sure go-ahead extra point.

I knew the wind was in our favor, giving us a short kick and Raheem Mostert a chance for a decent return. With Carson Wiggs and his big leg on the sideline I was hoping to get to midfield for even a 67-yard attempt, which was possible. Bruce Gaston busted through and mad an absolutely huge block though. Since Robert Marve threw the worst interception since Drew's pick in the 2000 OSU game Gaston's block then saved our ass.

I admit, I had nothing left for overtime. College overtime is exciting if you're watching a random game on ESPN. When the team you live and die by is in an overtime game It is a nerve-wracking knife edge that makes you question why you think watching college football is fun. If you're on defense first and give up a field goal the stakes become higher. Then, a touchdown wins it, but a turnover loses it. Twice Marve kept plays alive on third down, including an amazing third and long pass to Gary Bush that caused bedlam because I thought he broke the plane. He didn't, but with a first and goal from a foot out I knew we had no excuse to not score a TD. If you can't get a foot in four plays at home you don't deserve to play football.

When Marve scored I pretty much collapsed in the stands. Our ownership of OSU in West Lafayette continued, and now we're a Bucket away from a bowl. I call it ownership because we have inexplicably won four of six against the Buckeyes in Ross-Ade, and it really should be five of six. Over the past 11 years they have not struggled anywhere else as bad as they struggle at Purdue. Considering we just beat a team that beat the team that beat us 62-17, it does not make a damn bit of sense, but who cares. The scoreboard's 26-23 final margin is really all that matters.

Star-divide

Positives From The Ohio State Game:

The Defensive Line - Yes, there were moments when Braxton Miller ran amok like Terrelle Pryor in his prime, but Miller was their sole offense today. Well, he got help from Dan Herron, Carlos Hyde, and Hall all taking direct snaps. That was the only consistent offense OSU could generate, and after being told in the game preview that Ohio State would have no trouble dominating with its offensive line, I think we had given up 16 yards on the ground at the half. Gaston, Kawann Short, Brandon Taylor, Gerald Gooden, and Ryan Russell came to play today and played with a ton of pride after getting gashed the past two weeks. I said we had no chance if we couldn't slow down the run, but we did it. As predicted, we won as a result.

Ralph Bolden - I feel like Ralph won't truly be back until next year, but he set the tone with some early runs and had a very nice touchdown set up by a great block from Justin Siller. His big run on the opening drive is what opened things up and set the tone for us.

Justin Siller - He was very effective in the Wild Siller, and I know teams have to respect it more than Hyde or Herron in the wildcat because, as a former quarterback, Siller is a legitimate threat to throw. Justin also had six catches for 45 yards.

Robert Marve - I don't know if Marve is going to get a sixth year next year. I hope he starts the next two games, but he may still split time with Caleb TerBush. His interception was awful. Still, he kept his head and when Hope gave him a chance in overtime, he delivered. We can't forget the 88-yard touchdown drive he engineered before halftime, either. Strangely, the two QB system is working. TerBush starts games well, but Marve give us more of a chance in the mid-game. If you can figure it out, more power to you.

Jared Crank - Crank did a lot of dirty work today in opening holes for Akeem Shavers and Bolden. He got rewarded with four carries for 21 yards too.

Defensive Secondary - It seems like Josh Johnson was a step from an interception about three times. Most of Ohio State's completed passes where of the, "Miller running around praying someone gets open," variety. Ricardo Allen, Albert Evans, and Johnson were able to keep receivers under wraps and give the line time bottle up Miller or force a bad throw. Two of Ohio State's three touchdowns came on plays where a guy had to work his way open after about five seconds of coverage.

Negatives From The Ohio State Game:

The Officials - You have to love Big Ten officials, who seemed clueless on a number of calls and even ruled a fumble on a Crosby Wright catch when he was clearly down. They missed a ton of holds, a few pass interference calls, and were generally incompetent.

Cody Webster - It was a very rough day for Cody. The wind was a factor, but still not enough for him to struggle that much on kicks.

Making that one play - The next game in which we have one play to end the game on defense and we actually do it will be our first. No matter what, we can't make it easy. Fortunately, OSU did us a favor by running the ball almost exclusively in the fourth quarter and wearing the clock down for us.

Playcalling with a lead - Once again, we were more conservative than the Duggar family once we got a double-digit lead. For once can we please go for the kill? The playcalling at the end of the first half was especially bad since it damn near gave them a field goal.

Up Next:

Well, we are where we wanted to be. We know that no matter what, we will go to a bowl as long as we get our Bucket back. Now the pressure is off next week against an Iowa team I know we can beat at home. Get that, and we can actually play Indiana for bowl positioning as opposed to needing it to get a bowl.

This win feels good because for once this year, we saw what we needed to do and did it. Coach Hope coached a pretty solid game. We took away their running game for het first half and made them play from behind throughout. It was pretty damn hectic that we needed a blocked extra point and overtime to get the win, but we got it. That's all that matters in the standings.

We're 5-5. Sure, we could probably be 7-3 fairly easily with the Rice game and the errors at Penn State, but we handled adversity and got better. I admit that (Notre Dame game aside) we're a much better team at home. Now let's beat Our Most Hated Rival and clinch a bowl bid for the seniors next week.

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Two rivalry weeks in a row.

GRIT. I hate Iowa.

Will engineer for food and loan payments.

by purwho on Nov 12, 2011 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

Well played with the fortnight.

a rec to you, you cunning linguist.

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 12, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Correction, TMill

The worst pick since Drew’s in 2000 was RHenry’s last year against F’ing IU late in the game. Marves is third worst.

Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!

by BoilerUpAT on Nov 12, 2011 8:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I don't know

At least Henry was trying to make a play. Drew’s and this one were no where near a receiver.

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 12, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

The indictment is on blowing a 14 point lead to IU at home.

It should have never even gotten to overtime.

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 12, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I know and agree

Maybe it’s just that one play from that whole debacle that sticks in my mind. I expected Rob to put the team on his back (aka-legs) and win our Bucket and he threw that terrible pick and it sealed our loss pretty much. Devastating. Nothing hurts more than losing to IU. At home. In OT. At least to me

Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!

by BoilerUpAT on Nov 12, 2011 8:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I pin that INT on Nord, not Marve

That play had NO business being called in that situation. Yes he overthrew the receiver, but that’s what you get when you sub a guy in and out of the game.

Very glad the boys surprised many of us and pulled out another win over the nuts.

Sorry but that INT is not even in the same category as Drew’s in ‘00. If he didn’t redeem himself on that one we miss the ROSE BOWL. If Marve didn’t redeem we have to beat Iowa and IU to be bowl eligible.

by 01Boiler on Nov 12, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally agree

We were 10 yards from realistic FG range with the wind at our back. Plus we hadn’t thrown deep all day. On top of that, the wind definitely helped that ball sail on Marve. And (not to be a total suck up), it’s exactly what we get when we rotate in a new QB every quarter. Marve had a great scoring drive at the end of the 2nd quarter and I feel like we should have stuck with him after that.

by BoilerEngineer24 on Nov 13, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope, it was on Marve...

He even admitted it in his post-game interview. He said there was a short route that was open, but he got greedy and didn’t want to make small chunks and wanted to end the game in regulation, so he saw a one-on-one coverage (must not have seen the help over top) and he went for it. The ball sailed on him (due to the wind) and it was intercepted… Had he just thrown it to the short route and not gone for it all we might have been able to win it in regulation. Not a bad play call, just a bad decision on a kid that hasn’t had enough playing time reps. Glad he was able to redeem himself in overtime!

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 13, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Correction

Dead wrong that IU Pick was nowhere near the blunder the rediculous 30 yard lollipop at michigan state last year that rob henry threw up near our own endzone that I think a toddler would of intercepted.

by jonyoungjcash on Nov 12, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

With your assessment. I too shared your optimism but was immediately punched in the stomach in our opening series of the 2nd half. We took about 40 seconds off the clock and did nothing. As far as OSU’s broken offense goes, refs should throw an obligatory holding flag every 3rd play that an offense has a QB running around for 10 seconds in the backfield.

I’m also glad for Marve despite his incredibly poor decision at the end of regulation. I think both QBs were fine but considering his stay may be over soon, it was cool that he got a signature win even if it was against a depleted OSU team. Of course as a Purdue fan, I don’t have much sympathy for teams that talk about injured players or adversity that their teams have to deal with. I hope this inspires the team to take down a beatble Iowa.

by grebek on Nov 12, 2011 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

This team is definitely taking years off of my life. That blocked extra point was RIDICULOUS! I cannot believe how loud the crowd was when they were chanting “BLOCK THAT KICK!”

Seriously, what a day for Robert Marve. He wanted that win badly and he earned it. I think he deserves a start next week, especially since it will likely be his last game in Ross-Ade.

And now, this is an image I captured from the BTN highlight video. I’m putting it here for all of you to set as your computer’s wallpaper, cellphone’s wallpaper, print it out and put it on the ceiling above your bed so that you can always go to sleep with that image in your mind, or whatever.

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by Danulas on Nov 12, 2011 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

Hell of a play

Marve did what needed to be done. Hands down. It was at the opposite end of the field from my seats, but still beautiful

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 12, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to judge...but

I hope that doesn’t go on the ceiling above your bed. Unless your lady friend has a thing for Marve and it gets her excited.

by 01Boiler on Nov 12, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I GAY-RON-TEE

Wiggy will not get an opportunity to kick a FG >59 yds this season.

Not with Nord going for the deep ball when we are in the perfect situation to let Wiggs seal the deal.

by 01Boiler on Nov 12, 2011 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

It's a great day to be a Boilermaker!

Purdue just swept #2 Nebraska on Senior night. Words cannot describe today’s amazingness.

BTFU, HTFD

by btfu_crespo on Nov 12, 2011 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

As the Boilermaker Hero Keith would say...

TITS!!! Do we lead the Big Ten in volleyball yet?

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 12, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Not quite

We still have 3 losses in the Big Ten, while Nebraska now has 2. Purdue still has to play OSU, Penn State, IU and Wisconsin, all on the road, while NU still has 2 more home games against Minny and Wisconsin and at Iowa and Northwestern. NU really has no excuse to lose any of their upcoming games, and Purdue will have a tough game in Happy Valley though, so it might be difficult to stay 2nd in the B1G right now, but I still have hope.

BTFU, HTFD

by btfu_crespo on Nov 12, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

but every day is a great day to be a boilermaker

by GreenBayBoilermaker on Nov 12, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

It must be the Mackey rededication magic!

Now if the women’s bball team gets the job done tomorrow (which I don’t expect any problem against some cupcake), we have the perfect Boiler weekend!!!!

by charlespig on Nov 12, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

How about some respect for Marve's toughness

He laid out aO$U and also was very effective when he ran the ball. HE ran tough as a QB can run and showed a lot of guts.

by xBoiler on Nov 12, 2011 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Completely spaced on that

He leveled that lineman.

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 12, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, running for that 1st down is amazing!!!

I have a question though: if he wants to, is it possible to apply for a 6th year or is that utterly out of the picture?

by charlespig on Nov 12, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He might be able to having suffered two serious injuries.

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by Danulas on Nov 12, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

I’ve read multiple times that he can and plans to. I wonder if the NCAA has already done him enough favors by allowing him to avoid suspension in return for providing info on Miami. Maybe they secretly negotiated that he would be granted an extra year as well as part of that deal

by Boiler00 on Nov 13, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

That's the theory I'm going wtih

That he negotiated a 6th year when they were getting him to squeal.

by bresch on Nov 14, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Marve-lous!!!

Can we just agree to play Robert Marve the rest of the season unless he gets hurt. With high regards to CTB, let’s start Robert and see how he does. I give them credit for sticking with him after the interception. He made 2 plays that CTB couldn’t make in O.T. The 3rd down run (lowers his head for the 1st) and the throw to Bush out of the pocket. He deserves to start! Nice job Robert!

by buddha58 on Nov 12, 2011 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

I can’t even imagine that Marve won’t be the guy next week. How could the team get behind that? I would think that Hope would risk losing the team after the sheer leadership and heart Marve put on display with the block, the run, and the pass to Bush.

by Ray Williams? on Nov 12, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It takes balls to block a lineman the way he did.

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by Danulas on Nov 12, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Rice…aroni

What I hate for Hope (whose’s a great guy and a great player’s coach) is that if we’d beaten Rice, we’d be bowl eligible. How do you beat OSU and lose to Rice, I don’t know, but I’ll take it right now.

by buddha58 on Nov 12, 2011 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, it's really head-scratching to lose to Rice and almost to MTSU but beat OSU and Ill

Also, we beat OSU that beat Wis that drops 62 pts on us.

We destroyed Minnesota, who beat Iowa, who beat Michigan, who blew us away.

by charlespig on Nov 12, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Never underestimate the home field advantage I guess

In every game you mentioned in your post, the home team won.

by blue_dragon on Nov 13, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I am pretty sure you mean can't ... funny to read though
If you can get a foot in four plays at home you don’t deserve to play football.

by charlespig on Nov 12, 2011 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

$

…although I am sure our genius coaching staff will start Terbush the next game. For crying out loud they shouldn’t even let Terbush start the 2nd half in the first place! He played two series that didn’t get us anywhere and almost turned the ball over! I love CTB for his contribution this season, but seriously, it is so obvious who the better QB is: Mavre is 10-12 for 94 yds, Terbush is 15-25 for 139 yds. (OK, Mavre threw a nonsense INT, but he did redeem himself with the Gary Bush throw and his run for 1st down in OT, so let’s call that even)

Now if Hope insists on playing two QB, then at least be fair and give them equal opportunity. Terbush got to throw 25 times vs Mavre’s 12. So many times Mavre’s only job is to hand it to the RB. Come on, coach.

Lastly, can Mavre still apply for a sixth year (I know even he can it’s unlikely to be granted given Keith Smith’s experience last year), or is that completely out of question?

by charlespig on Nov 12, 2011 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

I dunno why there is a $ for my subject

It was supposed to be “Start Mavre and let Terbush play the garbage time when we are up multiple TDs”

by charlespig on Nov 12, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

$$

It just means what you say is… $money$! I agree with you.

by buddha58 on Nov 12, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree
Strangely, the two QB system is working. TerBush starts games well, but Marve give us more of a chance in the mid-game. If you can figure it out, more power to you.

I won’t call it “working.” At best, you can call it “not a disaster.” And if Gaston hasn’t blocked the PAT, you wouldn’t be calling it “working.” (How can a special team play determine whether a 2QB system is working or not? Do you see how ridiculous that is?)

Yes, CTB started the game well, but who is to say that Mavre won’t do even better? He simply isn’t given the chance. The guy is 10-12 compared to 15-25 for CTB, having only half the opportunity. If it is a fair 2-QB system, at least give Mavre an equal opportunity and not just have him doing hand off. If it is a “2-QB system by merit”, then at least let the better QB play more, which I think all would agree it’s Mavre. (Again, I love CTB for his contribution this season, but now Mavre seems completely healthy and he should get his chance)

by charlespig on Nov 12, 2011 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

agree 100%

I’m glad Marve was given the chance to come back in and redeem himself. It also seems apparent that the coaches think that he’s our best option at QB for putting points on the board, if he got the nod for OT.

CTB has done alright this season, but the offense is just more fired up and energetic with marve. The future of the team is Henry and Appleby, and CTB has gotten more than enough experience this season to be a solid backup.

I think after this game, Marve has earned the right to close out what will probably be his last year of football as the starter, and primary/only QB.

BTFU!

by BoilerAdam on Nov 13, 2011 2:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I watched the post-game interviews with the players on GBI...

and they said TerBush was banged up in the game, and that was why Marve got so much playing time. Also, Marve said that his knee has been bothering him more than people realize this year, and that today was one of the first times that he felt he had his legs under him allowing him to push through on running plays (such as the 3rd and short in the OT where he lowered his head.) Just saying, I think a lot of people on these boards assume they know what is going on with the team when, in actuality, I think there is a lot that we don’t know…

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 13, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I've read is that the coaches play Mavre b/c he has a stronger arm against the wind

But one thing I’m impressed is that Mavre said he and Terbush was close and they go with the hot hands, so at least he is buying into the 2-QB team concept and isn’t upset about PT.

by charlespig on Nov 13, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

"Not a Disaster"

That is the 2011 Football team moto I believe

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Nov 13, 2011 7:35 AM EST up reply actions  

How about this?

“Impending disaster that was miraculously avoided”

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by Danulas on Nov 13, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Imagine how different a tune we would be speaking...

If we hadn’t blown the games against Rice and PSU… If our only losses right now were to ND, Michigan and Wisconsin… ugh… I have faith in these next two games as well… it could have been a very special season… Hopefully next year they can stay focused throughout the year and not drop games to the nobodies in the noncon…

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 13, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, imagine how different a tune you would be speaking ...

if we did NOT block the FG in the first game and then lost the game, or that if Gaston didn’t block the PAT and you are talking about 3-7. And look, this is the easiest schedule we are ever gonna get. Look, I am very happy the position we are in now, but just saying, we can’t play the “what if” game only one way.

by charlespig on Nov 13, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Minor Edit

“Impending disaster that was sometimes miraculously avoided”.

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 13, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL!

Or, "Impending disaster that was miraculously avoided once in a blue moon". We are Purdue, we are just so used to heartbreaking losses in dramatic fashion.

by charlespig on Nov 13, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Catchy

I’m putting that on a coffee mug

I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more Purdue basketball

by BoileRx on Nov 13, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW I'm still jacked up about this win.

That is all.

BTFU!

Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!

by BoilerUpAT on Nov 12, 2011 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

Play of game was the blocked extra point. How lucky are we, we should had lost just like the IL game after not scoring second half. The odds was marve lost us the game with the pick. Oh well HOPEfully we go bowling marvelous LOL

by aafm187 on Nov 12, 2011 10:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I highly doubted

esp if we go bowling this year. I mean, as much as I want Hope to go, I will never ever cheer for Purdue to lose (it isn’t like in NFL where you can suck for Luck).

And look, we have a chance to beat Iowa next week since it is a home game. If we beat IU for the bucket, that’s 7-5. If we win the bowl game, it’s 8-5. With that kind of record (amid a VERY easy schedule this season), no coach is leaving.

by charlespig on Nov 13, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

I can’t bring myself to root against the Boilers. And an 8-5 season would give me enough to allow Hope a 4th season. But I need to see more than that in 2012.

by Jackson Brunner on Nov 13, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll rage agaisnt Hope as much as anyone.

But in his third year, bowl-or-bust is fair, and I’ve stuck with that all year. If he gets us there, it gets him one more year, but on the same bowl-or-bust terms.

"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"

by Boiler Bandsman on Nov 13, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope deserves another year

The only way i could see any justification in firing hope is if we lose out and that shouldn’t happen. Iowa is a terrible road team (lost to iowa state and minny) and IU is bad. We should win both for 5-3 in Big 10 which isn’t bad. He’s beat two teams with more talent while only losing to one team with less talent this year. Not to mention, he was Wiggs extra point away from forcing a Rose Bowl champion into ot, beat another Rose Bowl team, and a couple of Sean Robinson pick 6 away from having a chance to beat another Rose Bowl team. His most talented players are coming back in Bolden, Short, and Rico. Nord should go but if Hope finishes the season the way he should, definitely let him have his shot at taking this team to the Rose Bowl next year.

by BoilerBen on Nov 13, 2011 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

What close games are you talking about?

by SpartanBoiler on Nov 13, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

KK got a helmet sticker

From lou holtz on game day final. 3 sacks, 6 tackles on the day. Well done sir!

BTFU!

by BoilerAdam on Nov 13, 2011 1:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'll never get tired of taking these type of pictures:

Great win, still can’t believe it.

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Nov 13, 2011 5:33 AM EST reply actions  

you thought it was tough watching for you..

.. imagine watching with a 103 fever. I am pretty sure I almost died a couple of times.

by Boiler on the Beach on Nov 13, 2011 8:21 AM EST reply actions  

Get better soon

Being sick B-LOWS.

Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!

by BoilerUpAT on Nov 13, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

3 Frustrating Things

Yeah, a blocked extra point to force OT is pretty lucky….but so was Braxton Miller’s “across the body off the back foot” touchdown throw. At the end of the day, I was happy that this team finally caught a break and now has a good shot at bowling.

But, I still didn’t like several things from the coaching staff:
1. At the end of regulation, we were driving for the game-winning FG and we were already 10 yards from realistic FG range. Why on earth did we throw it deep? It’s a windy day and we really hadn’t tried to throw it deep all day. Yeah, it was a bad throw by Marve, but why suddenly try to throw deep then? Seems stupid to me.
2. How many freaking times did we let Braxton Miller run for the first down on 3rd and long? I knew this was going to happen, but why the heck can’t we change up our scheme to stop it after the first time? Some of those runs were also the result of poor tackling form, which continues to be an issue….probably because we’re still not working on tackling in practice.
3. Marve’s TD drive towards the end of the 1st half was money. I thought he looked great on that drive and I felt sure we would stick with him the rest of the game. But that didn’t happen. Instead Terbush came out and the offense didn’t do much in the 3rd quarter. I really hope he starts next week and we give him an entire game to work with.

by BoilerEngineer24 on Nov 13, 2011 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

agreed

and 1. is the most obvious. But even as stupid as that was 3. pisses me off the most. I don’t think you can find one single fan other than CTB’s family who doesn’t think Marve should start next game (and I don’t want to say both only b/c you never know what could happen next game). But I have a good feeling CTB will start. The thinking from Hope will probably be, hey it worked last game for a win. Everyone sees the fire from Marve. When the results on the field are about equal for the year between the two I think it’s obvious you go with the older, more experienced guy who plays with a serious high level of emotion. Who knows what could have been if Marve would have been the starter once healthy. And not only the starter but given most of the playing time. I doubt he’ll be back next year but imagine the scenario if he does get to come back.

Hope would have to choose from Henry, CTB, Marve and Appleby. Robinson would probably transfer at that point. I’m torn because I’d really love to see Marve get one more year. It’s probably safe to say Appleby won’t really play much as a true freshman but I’m eager to get him started since he’s the future and most likely to become the next star QB in the cradle.

by Boiler00 on Nov 13, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Robinson transfers at that point

A backup has to always be ready. Marve and CTB are done after next year. Henry only has two left now. Robinson is redshirtting this year, so he has three years left going into next season. no reason he can’t battle Appleby, especially if Appleby redshirts because Henry/CTB/Marve play all the snaps.

Given the lack of experience we’ve had at quarterback in 2009 and 2010, having multiple guys with starting experience is far from a bad thing.

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 13, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait, Henry has only two yrs left? I thought he played as a reshirt freshman last yr

If Mavre is miraclously eligible in 2012, then we have

2012: 5 QBs (Mavre, CTB, Henry, Robinson, Appleby)
2013: 3 QBs (Henry, Robinson, Appleby)

Is that right? Is Robinson skilled enough to play another position?

by charlespig on Nov 13, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, henry has 2 years left

He redshirtted in 2009, played in 2010, would have been a redshirt soph this year, and has 2012 and 2013 left, with the small possibility of applying for a sixth year in 2014

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 13, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

6 in 2012

if you count Aloyis Gray but he’ll probably be a receiver like McCarthy.

by Boiler00 on Nov 13, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

There is absolutely no way Appleby would start

over Henry, Marve, or TerBush.

With how much experience we have at the QB position, I think it would be best to redshirt him.

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by Danulas on Nov 13, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

There is an article on a fan post that discusses Appleby...

It sounds like he is planning on redshirting. Sounds like a great kid, and it was glad to hear him so steadfast in being a Purdue commit! BOILER UP!

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 13, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

^^ I must also note my frustrations. We played this game just like we played MTSU and the outcome was quite similar. We let a team with a horrible offense almost beat us. Clearly the OSU defense coordinator had no game plan, which helped us. In addition that ILL and OSU are really disguised as good football teams. OSU will bounce back so we might as well get the W’s when we can.

There is a very good chance now to get a bowl game and a better record than we thought (I hope). If we get invited? It is sad that Hope keeps his job, he is not the guy. I think we have good talent but it takes a coach to get so many games. I like to make the comparison to the Michael Scott Paper Company.

To me it seems that we have flipped roles with Ill, they are collapsing this year and we are doing what they did last year. So maybe that is a sign things are changing and we haven’t carpet rolled outselves.

If we had lost by a point I would be angry but still think they played well, blaming the QB for the late pick and blowing the game. But you can’t really argue W’s.

We need at least 21 points per game for Iowa and IU, can we do it? We had 20 yesterday. Iowa is a little more threat on both run and pass and the same for IU. There should be more spark from PU vs. Iowa but I think we turn back into Purdue football by next week. Iowa’s size is comparable to a hybrid of Wisky and ND, somewhere in the middle. There could be a lot of fans at this game too.

To the post below me, maybe a 3 QB system? I mean Hope is such a nice guy gotta play everyone right?

by drboiler on Nov 13, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Iowa has the weapons on offense

They have the #2 RB (Coker) and #2 WR (McNutt) in the conference in terms of yards. Coker is a beast and if the defense isn’t tackling well, it will be a long day next week. McNutt will most likely feast on our poor 3rd-down coverage as well – and he is a legitimate deep threat.

Luckily, Iowa fans will tell you that all of that talent will be undone by their coaching staff’s inexplicably conservative game plan and play calling. Why do I feel like I’ve heard that before?

by Mattdsm on Nov 13, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Kawaan is gonna need to have a big day.

But blitzing needs to come fast and furious. Vandenberg can not read a blitz to save his life. Gets happy feet in the pocket and plays awful. That’s the story of the entire first half yesterday

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by HawkeyeBoiler on Nov 13, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

The Marve interception was on Marve...

he even admitted it in his post-game interview. He said there was a short route that was open, but he was greedy and didn’t want to make small chunks and wanted to end the game in regulation, so he saw a one-on-one coverage (must not have seen the help over top) and he went for it. The ball sailed on him (due to the wind) and it was intercepted… Had he just thrown it to the short route and not gone for it all we might have been able to win it in regulation. Not a bad play call, just a bad decision on a kid that hasn’t had enough playing time reps. Glad he was able to redeem himself in overtime!

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 13, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Good Marve, Bad Marve

The gridiron version of GDB?

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 13, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He just tried to do too much on that play...

I watched that play again this morning, and Siller was WIDE OPEN to the left side of the field for the first down… just tried to do too much… Glad he got redemption!

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 13, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't know that

I didn’t see the post game interview with Marve, so I didn’t realize he had chosen to throw the deep route on his own. I guess I’ll cut Nord a break on that one.

by BoilerEngineer24 on Nov 13, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

As much as I'd like to see Marve start at this point

TerBush has consistently been very good in the first quarter. He tends to start spinning his wheels towards the end of the half and completely falls off in the second half.

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by Danulas on Nov 13, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that has more to do with the first drive being a little more planned-out and practiced beforehand.

And less to do with CTB. The extra prep time on a preplanned sequence of plays helps him be effective, but one would assume Marve could do the same, and have the added benefits of rhythm and the confidence of the team.

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by Boiler Bandsman on Nov 13, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah you guys are probably right.

Let Marve start for the Senior Game!

Also, someone call the Hawkeyes and remind them to bring their lipstick, so they will at least look pretty while they’re getting fucked.

Let the Fortnight of Hate commence!

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by Danulas on Nov 14, 2011 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

That's awesome.

One of those crappy January bowls, but that’s far and away better than the Motor City bowl or Little Caesar’s bowl or whatever they’re calling it this year.

by rcpratt on Nov 13, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

But Detroit is sooo much closer for me to travel to, and I know more people there that I can stay with… lol

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 13, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

my comment was kind of a joke… it’s nice to have it close to home, but I would DEFINITELY we play in Dallas over Detroit!

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 13, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Marve's knee

Marve is sure exciting. Usually makes one terrible play a game but he sure made up for it in OT. Put his body on the line 3 times, once bocking that hurge ugly OS lineman, getting the first down in OT and scoring that last touchdown. I hope is knee is ok after that, I really think he would stop the stupid throws if he played full time and was allowed to get in the rythm of the game. If he comes back next year, he’s my QB and Henry becomes the new Siller, doing a little bit of everything. Somebody had to catch those bubble screens.

Might as well face the fact that Hope will be here at least until his contract runs out now unless he gets arrested

by BoilerRick on Nov 13, 2011 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

Boilers Win! - Fire Hope!!

A win is a win. Congratulations to the players for hanging on. Enjoy the victory. In time, this will look much better than is was – once we forget how average this OSU team is. If not for Gaston’s block, this game would have been another epic Hope collapse – more regrettable than last year at MSU as those Spartans were a pretty good team.

In my view, Hope accomplished nothing in this game that should earn him another year, much less a new contract. We executed well at times and got up early. Instead of putting them away, we played four-corners and let the Buckeyes climb back into it. Marve’s success will only reinforce Hope’s belief in his silly Dueling QB strategy .

This was not a program changing victory. Thanks to Gaston, we avoided yet another heartbreaking loss to a mid-level (or downright terrible) team. The blocked XP does not make Hope any more competent than he was on Friday.

As Alan Parsons used to say, “The game never ends, when your whole world depends, on the turn of a friendly card.”

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 13, 2011 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

^^ I agree 100%. Although the team did play well, this game was won by a handful of players making key plays. The players not the coaches. As long as DH is in house, we have a good future with horrible endings. If he goes and we get a good coach, we can become a top 25 program. I would like him on the team staff just not leading us.

by drboiler on Nov 13, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

on hope

Maybe nord is a real problem. If hope got a good staff to advise him he could be a jovial bone head recruiter. No doubt we have talent. He just needs good oc and dc to feed him the right plays. Let’s not forget nord got fired from utep for being an abject failure…

by boilerrx on Nov 13, 2011 3:01 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

"You can delegate authority, but not responsibility"

   - US Navy Management Axiom

The Captain is ultimately responsible for everything that happens on his ship. Hope is responsible for Nord, Gibbony and the rest of the staff – and all of the decisions that they make.

Unlike Hope, a Navy Captain doesn’t have a free hand to choose his own staff.

"There's no hope until Hope is gone!"

by boilerslim on Nov 13, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree though

Offensive playcalling is by far the most frustrating part of watching this team. Even more than dumb timeouts or even penalties it seems like playcalling is the thing that most often kills our momentum. The start of the 2nd half of this game is a perfect example, when we had a chance to come out and build our lead, and instead run 3 ugly plays and have to punt.

Also, other team-wide issues like tackling and stupid penalties actually have gotten better throughout the season, as opposed to the playcalling which has stayed consistently dumb.

by BoilerchE on Nov 13, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it should be noted that our “ownership” of OSU at Ross-Ade may sound good now, but in the one game that actually mattered (07 Gameday Primetime) we totally laid an egg and played like shit.

by mrpink51089 on Nov 13, 2011 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

I submit to you the "Holy Toledo" game of 2000

The ultimate Breesus moment. That game essentially sent us to the Rose Bowl.

BTFU!

by BoilerAdam on Nov 13, 2011 8:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No surprise, Genius Hope likely gonna start CTB again next week despite the obvious
"My first inclination is to continue the course (with TerBush)," Hope said. "We’ll make that decision as the week goes on."

by charlespig on Nov 14, 2011 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

Congratulations on the win

Disappointment hasn’t quite worn off, but life goes on. Good job by Boilers to make enough plays to beat ‘my’ Bucks. Good luck with balance of season.

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