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Tweetings, Comings, Goings, And Boilermakings

It has been an interesting last few days for our football program, so much so that it is worth breaking things down before I touch on some Boilermakings links.

1.       Two new recruits - We didn't get Deon Bush yet and Gary Harris still has his visits, but the silver lining of Saturday night's debacle is that we picked up a pair of new commits. A safety named Dion did commit, but it was three-star safety Dion Witty. Can he play immediately? Three-star offensive line prospect Cameron Cermin also committed. One needs only look at the total number of stars to see that recruiting has improved greatly. In 2008 we had mostly two-star commits. We haven't gotten any four or five stars yet, but all but three of 19 commits are three-stars.

2.       Robert Marve as the mad Tweeter - This was addressed yesterday, but it never good when the pseudo-starting quarterback takes a veiled shot at the head coach on Twitter. It is clear from his comment that Marve is frustrated with coach Hope, and I don't blame him. Marve was one of the few players that played with a sense of urgency. Playing outside the system is good because it makes us less predictable, thus it can become easier to score. Since other players came to his side it seems there could be some issues in the locker room. It is mine (and most people's) opinion that Marve gives us the best shot to win right now. Coach Hope seems committed to this two-quarterback crap that is not working, and it will only get worse.

3.       Calvin Smith - I find this the most interesting, and it ties into the Ken Plue situation. Just as I was publishing the Minnesota preview yesterday the news broke that high-profile transfer Calvin Smith from New Mexico was leaving the program. At first there was no news as to why, then it broke that he was arrested Friday night on suspicion of theft. What's perplexing about this is that Hope stated he didn't want to go into detail, yet it was public record, published in the Exponent, that he was arrested. This is related to Ken Plue because we have never gotten an explanation as to exactly what he has done to merit being in Hope's doghouse. If you'll remember a year ago there were unsubstantiated rumors about him (that I published and later retracted because they were just that, rumors). I won't go into detail about those rumors, but I find it odd now that he was the only player named in those rumors by name, he was later suspended for last year's Michigan State game, and now he has yet to play despite being our best lineman. There has never been an explanation given, thus the triple-secret probation running gag. What does it say about Hope that he doesn't clearly address issues like this, especially when, in Smith's case, it is a matter of public record?

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4.       Tackling - The great fear of injury from last year has now swung the other way, as it was revealed we don't tackle much in practice. I wish I was making this up. No wonder we can't tackle in games.

5.       More Twitter - Last night coach Hope address the growing Twitter issue from Marve and his answers were strange to say the least:

"Most of the time when I read these things or these things come to me, I'm trying to figure what the big deal was all about," Hope said Tuesday during his weekly press conference. "When I read it, I knew exactly what he was trying to say. The only negative response I have to it is everyone else's negative response. I wasn't offended by it one bit. He said exactly what we were saying - he's got to play within the system."

When asked before Sunday's practice to evaluate his quarterbacks, Hope mentioned that Caleb TerBush has been managing the offense better than Marve and that Marve has been ad-libbing some. He said that Marve has played some outside of the system. That can include checking to different plays at the line than were called or not staying in the pocket long enough to let a play develop - even if there's good protection - before scrambling.

So when Marve tweeted on Monday, it appeared that he was responding to Hope's statement. Marve later tweeted, "People r looking way to much into things. Reread what I first said. I'm all in and these players r very close together!!!"

Hope said he thought Marve's initial tweet was simply acknowledging that Marve does need to learn to play in the system.

Coaches are working with Marve during practice about being more disciplined within the system, but Hope knows that could be a challenge, calling Marve a "wild stallion."

"I don't want to take it all away - that's for sure - because he really brings some things to the table for our football team," Hope said. "His personality and just the way he is, I think, is important to our football team. ... He hasn't practiced a whole lot so he hasn't had a chance to get a whole lot of reps, and sometimes when things are changing in front of him, he can get outside the system some and do some thing that he thinks gives him and the football team a chance to be successful.

"Obviously, he doesn't understand how or why, and that's why we meet and show him on the film."

Okay, Hope thought Marve's first tweet acknowledged that Marve does need to play in the system more? How in God's name can you infer that when it clearly says that Marve didn't know how he wasn't playing in the system. Hope analysis make absolutely no sense! Hope here comes off like he would rather handcuff Marve instead of letting him read the defense and possibly call a better play, just for the sake of the system (which has no identity). Isn't that what quarterbacks are supposed to do, especially senior quarterbacks?

That's all I have to say right now. On to the Boilermakings:

Men's Basketball To Host Western Michigan As Part of Puerto Rico Tip-Off
The Purdue men's basketball team will host Western Michigan on Nov. 23 in a bonus game as part of the 2011 Puerto Rico Tip-Off, head coach Matt Painter announced on Friday. This is a new game added to the schedule.

Men's Basketball Walk-On Tryouts Set For Oct. 17
The Purdue men's basketball team will hold walk-on tryouts on Monday, Oct. 17. The tryout will begin at 6 a.m. on Keady Court at Mackey Arena.

The Hoops Report | Top 68 Team Previews: #25 Purdue Boilermakers
The Hoops Report has us a little higher at #25.

No. 37 Purdue at a glance - NCAA Basketball - Sporting News
The Sporting News rates us #37 in the preseason.

Hummel named in preseason Top 50 list | WLFI - West Lafayette, Indiana
Robbie Hummel was named to the preseason top 50 list for the Wooden Award.

2011-2012 Big Ten Preview | College
A quick preview of Big Ten basketball (which will not have a lockout)

Big Ten Power Poll, Post Week 5 Star Wars Edition - Off Tackle Empire
OTE staff ranks the Big Ten teams

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DAMMIT!

Things seem to never get better. Calvin Smith! Fuuuuuuuck.

by Boiler00 on Oct 5, 2011 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

You'd think we could learn after previous wrecks

Most recent that comes to mind was Selmon Lymon. God dammit I think the coaches need to say “don’t break the damn law” at the end of every practice.

I come from a land down unda

by BoilerRoo on Oct 5, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Making too much of this

I actually agreed with Hope’s comments on Marve after the game. Now, that doesn’t mean I agree with Hope’s “system” or “gameplan” but the players have a duty to execute exactly what the coaches prepare them to do. I don’t agree that Hope stated it publicly that Marve was outside the system or whatever, that should have been handled internally, he should have just said Caleb is giving us a better chance to win and stuck with that.

As for handling team issues internally, I like that Hope does that regardless if it is public record or not. Its a team issue, its his team, and he handles it accordingly. Good for him. We make too much of these things-we don’t have a right to know everything and we need to trust our Coach is making the right decision. If Plue, and Smith, F’d up and they got in the doghouse GOOD. I want a Coach that promotes discipline and has little tolerance for stupidity or breaking team rules, etc.

Too much emotion from getting beat by ND is playing into all of this. I don’t think Hope has lost control or anything like that at all, we just aren’t executing on the field and the coaching itself is questionable, nothing more.

Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!

by BoilerUpAT on Oct 5, 2011 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Mostly right
The players have a duty to execute exactly what the coaches prepare them to do

Don’t the coaches prepare their players to read the defense and adjust accordingly? At least in the quarterback position? I don’t like how he throws individual players under the bus. He blamed Wiggs for the Rice loss and he’s now complaining about Marve.There is no I in Team. The game is a team effort. Maybe Marve had to scramble because his line wasn’t protecting him adequately, Wiggs might have made that field goal if someone with a mustache didn’t waste time he didn’t really have to waste. As a coach you have to refer to your team’s play as a whole to the press, and work out individual mistakes in private.

by dsince1984 on Oct 5, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly!

A senior quarterback should be able to read and react to defenses. It seems this is discouraged from the way Hope talks.

A futile crusade to prevent mass ignorance

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by BoilerTMill on Oct 5, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are no words...
I want a Coach that promotes discipline…

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Senior All-American Alto Sax

by Danulas on Oct 5, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

OTE Power Poll

Hilarious again and how acurate is this statement concerning our current situation:

“Trader in mostly junk, but has no idea what to do with the talent he does have right in front of him.”

by Welljl01 on Oct 5, 2011 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey Coach Hope,

Maybe if your “system” involved the offensive line being able to block 3 and/or 4 rushers for more than half a second, Marve wouldn’t have to improvise so damn much. nd DOMINATED both lines of scrimmage, and until that’s fixed, it doesn’t frankly matter who takes the snaps. For that allegedly being one of Hope’s “strengths,” damn we’re pathetic up front.

Makers All?

by icet15 on Oct 5, 2011 10:30 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Don't hold your breath on Deon Bush

And I thought it was strange that Calvin Smith transferred to Purdue without even a visit. Something isn’t right there.

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Oct 5, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

What is our "system" anyway?

We have no identity in our offense. In Tiller’s time, we are basketball on grass. We have our bubble screens. We at least have a line that protect Brees enough that he has time to make a play.

With Mavre (or Terbush), all I see is they keep constantly having to roll out and throw on the move (making it much more difficult). Or worse, just getting so much pressure that the best they can do is to avoid a sack.

So what exactly is “the system” and how to stay “in it”?

by charlespig on Oct 5, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

No one knows

Not having an offensive identity is one thing that really hurts recruiting and shows how coaching is lacking. The coaches are just winging it.

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Oct 5, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toledo coach

What is your opinion on the Toldeo coach taking over at Purdue. He seems to have a strong team and would be recruiting in the same area as Purdue. Opinions?

by BoilerRick on Oct 5, 2011 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Beckman is on my list

Seems like a good coach

Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!

by BoilerUpAT on Oct 5, 2011 8:59 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Deon Bush is coming to PU

My friend is one of the girls that shows recruits and there families around Purdue and takes them to the game and whatnot, and she had Deon and his family for the ND game. She said Deon supposedly hinted that he’s coming here because he wants to play with Gary and so his family has 1 team to support and travel to to watch both sons. She isn’t super smart about sports nor does she really care about recruiting (she didn’t know how big of a recruit he was), so I don’t think she’d be saying this just to say it….she told me not to tell anyone :S

by sportsguy1 on Oct 5, 2011 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Cool story, bro.
…she told me not to tell anyone

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by Danulas on Oct 5, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice pic man

Looks like a nice basement you have there. Must get all the ladies

by sportsguy1 on Oct 7, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tone it down. Now.

"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"

by Boiler Bandsman on Oct 8, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was just being nice

He’s not going to pass on Alabama, Auburn, Florida State, LSU, and Miami. Better weather, easier academics, and hotter coeds are a win.

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Oct 6, 2011 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

well...

My wife’s best friend’s brother’s dog’s first owner told me that Gary Harris, AJ Hammons and Stefan Jankovic were touring PU Reactor Number One when a reactor coolant malfunction caused excessively high radiation levels to emit from the reactor core, causing the three ballers to fuse together thus creating a super-baller (in a Voltron sort of way). No word on where Garajefan Harmonovic plans to attend college, but word is he’s a heavy Purdue lean.

No disrespect intended, just having a little fun. But I’ve read a variation of this story countless times with regards to a number of Purdue recruits and the prognostications are correct about 10% of the time. You very well could be telling the truth, but I’ll wait until he signs on the dotted line.

http://therailroadtie.com/

Boiler up!

by therailroadtie on Oct 6, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coolant Issues produce Super-Baller

Sound like the work of BoilerPaulie.

Well done, young man!

"To HELL with the cup - give those Boilers KNEE braces!!"
- Dennis Miller (I know he's thinkin' it!)

by boilerslim on Oct 6, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

When does basketball start?

This football program is an embarrassment and a mess.

by boilerdan on Oct 5, 2011 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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