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A complete failure in all respects

Purdue football regressed today.

There is no nicer way of saying that. Last season we gave up 31 points Toledo, just as we did this year. We only scored 20 in return this time, while we scored 52 last year. While the offense was to blame, they were far from alone in having responsibility for this one. The defense let the nation's worst offense march 85 yards on the opening drive for a score. While this unit would later play good enough later to give us a chance, that 85 yard drive gave the visiting underdog what you never want to give them: confidence.

Star-divide

Then there are the special teams mistakes. Yes, Carson Wiggs missed two makeable field goals. I am fine with that. Mistakes happen. What absolutely infuriates me is the continued poor kickoff coverage that once again killed us. It was exactly like teams have done against us all year when we have given up big returns. A simple sweep to the other side of the field meant the returner was wide open for a big gain.

This kind of mistake comes from a total breakdown in Special Teams discipline. That falls on the coaching staff, and one J.B. Gibboney. It is clear he needs to be fired. Not tomorrow. Not next week. Now. Before we had him as a special teams coach we had one of the best kick coverage units in the nation. Now we don't even grasp the simple concept of staying in lanes to prevent a big return. The last thing we needed to do in that situation, when we had gotten the game as close as it had been all day, was give up a big return.

This was a lot like last year's game against Michigan State. In that game, we scored to take control of the game by 11 points, only to give up a huge return and shift momentum back the other way. A huge punt return nearly lost the Michigan game last year. We have already given up big kick returns in every game this season. This kind of stuff is ridiculous. There is no excuse for it.

Of course, much of the blame today lies on the offense. It seems we have now regressed to the Colletto years where there is a lack of creativity. One of the biggest plays of the day was Austin Dantin's big touchdown run. That did not happen because Dantin is an amazing physical talent with lightning speed. It happened because of an excellent play call and the Toledo offense creating misdirection to open up the play.

Misdirection was a myth with our offense, and that is what is most frustrating. I understand that we are missing our top three offensive skill players. Still, there is absolutely no attempt at deception. We're gaining yards when the blocking is good, but there is no threat whatsoever for a big play. In the entire offseason we heard about how this offense was going to be exciting and how we would have multiple options with the players available. Well, so far Justin Siller has been underutilized and Robert Marve and Keith Smith are now out.

Still, we only had success today when we had a hurry-up and wore the Rockets down. Even then, some of the play calls were ludicrous. The game was lost when we had the ball, down 24-17, 2nd and 1 on the three. The predictable fullback draw was snuffed for a loss of two, and we chose to pass on 3rd down instead of run (which was gaining five yards per play). Rob Henry threw a poor pass, and we settled for a field goal. Toledo had a big return and quickly scored a touchdown to end the game.

Now I ask you, would the Danny Hope of last year, he that called the onsides kick against Michigan in the Big House, settled for a field goal there?

 YOU'RE PLAYING A FUCKING MAC TEAM!!!!!!!!!!

I cannot believe we refused to strap on the ball bag and go for it there. What's the worst that can happen? We don't get it and Toledo gets the ball back inside its own five. We still needed a touchdown regardless. We really only needed three yards, not five, as we could have earned a first down at the 2. Instead, we went with the chickenshit call of settling for the field goal. Rightfully, we were punished with the big return.

We played like the MAC team today and Toledo played like the Big Ten team. There were some good moments. I must credit the defense for creating two turnovers that gave us the opportunity to tie. The second Toledo touchdown was set up because of Marve's injury. That was a fluke because he planted, something happened to his knee, and instinct took over. He still shouldn't have fumbled, but it must have been bad if instinct took over and it made him drop the ball.

Ricardo Allen and Ryan Kerrigan had good game, but once again, the bailout pass over the middle was wide open on third and long. I don't understand why we simply refuse to see this is a weakness when it has been there since 2005. Still, the defense was the best of the three units. Two of the touchdowns were set up by short fields while a third came on a big play. It's disappointing that we couldn't do better against the nation's worst offense, but there were other circumstances at play.

This team and this season is now at a major crossroads, and the Northwestern game is the swing game of the season. We have two weeks to heal and adjust to Rob Henry as a starter. Let's face it, Marve is likely done because you don't just drop to the ground without contact unless it is serious. This team is better than what it has shown on the field, but it needs to man up and act like it. If we can come out and win the Northwestern game (and they struggled with Central Michigan today) we must then beat Minnesota, Illinois, and Indiana to get to a bowl. Anything beyond those four games is a pipe dream right now.

Unfortunately, they have to prove it even to me now. When I watch other teams on TV, even non-BCS conference teams, it seems like they move effortlessly on offense at times. I feel like we have to fight and claw for every yard. We look completely different from everyone else, even the MAC.

We deserve our proper public shaming this week. Aside from Minnesota, we are currently the worst team in the Big Ten. If we played Indiana right now we would get stomped in our own stadium for the Bucket. We look frightened and weak willed. We have allowed a MAC team to come into our house and win by double digits. This was unacceptable even in the dark days of Akers/Colletto.The most frustrating thing is that when we decided to dominate the game in the third quarter, we did exactly that. We were 3 yards away from tying the game with at least three plays to gain those three yards, and we were too timid to go do it.

I am not often one to question the coaching staff, but after seeing the completely unprepared team take the field today one has to wonder. Danny Hope is now 2-2 against the MAC, while Tiller only lost to the MAC twice in 12 years. Those three yards are an example, as we went away from what had worked to get us to that point.

There is still time though. Remember, this team won four conference games a year ago and looked a lot better at the end than it did at the beginning. I do not doubt that we have the talent to still win some games and make a bowl game, but this team lacks any sort of winning edge right now. It is not hungry at all, despite the injuries. We can either cry about those injuries, or suck it up and deal.

I don't know what will happen from here, but it will take a drastic change in two weeks to pull off a win and get the season going in the right direction again.

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disgusted

I was so disgusted with the play of the kicking game I turned off my gamecast feed. I understand a mistake but not covering the return men is a joke and we as fans deserve better. I cant wait for basketball season, but sadly i am too much of a fan to quit watching and cheering for the football team. You add this to the fact i am a cubs fan and the world likes kicking me in the teeth. UGH!!!

by joshpurduepete on Sep 25, 2010 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

TMill Is Dead On

Purdue should NEVER, EVER lose to a MAC team.

Tiller pussed out, played conservatively against the big boys, insisted on playing straight up, no gambles. I thought Hope was just the opposite.

That goal line meltdown CANNOT happen if Purdue is ever to win under Hope. Certainly not against a MAC team! Unacceptable.

by U-P Boilermaker on Sep 25, 2010 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

hate to tell you

Toledo is 3-3 all time against Purdue.
85 scholarships have changed the landscape. To many in the Big 10 are just arrogant to accept. What was the MAC against the Big 10 last week? 2-6. All on the road.
How many road teams win on a normal conference week end?
Could Purdue just have been beaten by a better team?
The top of the MAC can play with the middle of the Big 10 most years… food for thought

by Jeff Mcgill on Sep 29, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Props for saying what needed to be said. At times I have felt that you have been a little too kind, esp. w/regard to coaches, but this was spot-on. That 3rd and 3 call on the 5 was just awful. With a mobile QB and a wide side of the field to roll him out to, we call a pocket pass with one option to the short side of the field? Ridiculous. The coaching was just terrible.

Related story, I was down on the sideline at the end of the first half getting ready for the marching band show, and you want to know how many coaches were coaching, or even talking to or trying to motivate the players?

ONE. Everyone else, players & coaches alike, was standing silent w/ their heads down.

"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"

by Boiler Bandsman on Sep 25, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Fire Gibbonney

Seriously…. this fool doesn’t get it…I’m sorry but this guy gives up too many punt returns…. it’s horrible

by H Dot Jones on Sep 25, 2010 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm glad people

are finally realizing how not that much of an upgrade Danny Hope is over Tiller.

In Kolb we trust...

by benjapal on Sep 25, 2010 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

What are we supposed to do?

It’s not like we can flash money at any big name coach and say “Hey coach us, we have this great tradition and awesome stadium and fans that reach the 6 digits each game”.. Part of it is the injuries and the youth, but part of it is the fact that they don’t have any pride… seriously…. they don’t have any pride or an identity. This sounds like I’m throwing ambiguous terms out there but it’s obvious that this team was going through the motions. With Joey Elliot last year he made his mistakes but he also had a fire about him getting the team going. That’s something that is truly missed…Jaycen Taylor as well….Throw in the fact that we lost Keith Smith as a motivating force for the offense and well I can see how this team can be down. Unless Rob Henry gets a swagger and confidence with the line and gets them going… and Kawaan Short and Kerrigan gets things going (attitude wise) on the Defense… this will be a tough year

by H Dot Jones on Sep 25, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

There is no fire at all. Other teams have fire.

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by BoilerTMill on Sep 25, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

T-Mill

I look at Northwestern and how Fitz has pretty much made that team like him and how they were in 95…Fitz can draw back on the fact that he was a player at NW and that can also play as a tough motivating tool. Now I am also a big proponent of execution and talent and I also don’t want to say that Hope is a horrible motivator because he can’t relate (he should be able to he was on that 2000 rose bowl team) but why do you think this team is having a hard time showing pride or any fire out there?

by H Dot Jones on Sep 25, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's the biggest question of the season

I haven’t seen it since the opening play. There hasn’t been a single play this year that I can point to and say, “Yes! That’s some fire there!”

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by BoilerTMill on Sep 25, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess we'll have 2 weeks to figure out that as well....

along as getting the LB corp speed, O-line, special teams coverage, Rob Henry reps, play calling, catching interceptions, and improving on solid tackling.. also having the cojones to go for it on 4th and on their 2 yard line, etc etc etc….

by H Dot Jones on Sep 25, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

One thing I don't understand

How multiple teams across the country can have open receivers all over the place, not only against us, but against many teams, yet we never have open guys it seems.

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by BoilerTMill on Sep 25, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's Taylor Stubblefield doing right now?

Not the best QB but he was good at running routes. Maybe he could come back as a WR’s coach and show them some of the ropes. We also don’t have a Greg Orton or a Selwyn Lymon that cold be a burner. I also think we need better recruiting…. Newsflash…a 3-star in Florida, is the same as a 3-star in Indiana…. hate to break it to you Coach Hope….

by H Dot Jones on Sep 25, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well Brock did something kinda right

Well Get Stu leave Omaha and come over to W. Lafayette… bring John and Jake Standeford while you’re at it…. Roosevelt Colvin should join in as well…

by H Dot Jones on Sep 25, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

His defenses were good early in the aughts

But after that we were a joke and have never recovered

by Mattdsm on Sep 25, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I Know

Brock’s Defense was a crock at the end….yeah….I don’t want him… I want some swagger though

by H Dot Jones on Sep 25, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course

I know that Taylor was a WR not a QB… wow

by H Dot Jones on Sep 25, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's official.

When you size up a group and you can’t spot the sucker…….it’s you. I disagree that we are better than Minnesota. I’ve seen enough to confidently say we will not win another game this season. I can’t believe this program has sunk to this level. There’s really no excuse for it. When you examine it, it’s a complete failure from top to bottom. The Administrators hire an AD that has no clue (or maybe desire) to put a consistently competitive product on the field. The AD then hires a coach with no D1 resume. He then brings in a staff in his image. They collectively recruit some of the worst classes in the conference. And what you saw today is the result. Kerrigan’s probably counting the days till the combine.

by Hummel's figurines on Sep 25, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate to hitch another car to the negativity train, but I must

I have not felt good about football since just before the ND game. I believed the hype around Marve, I believed in our receivers, in our defensive line. So far, only the D line has shown up, and they can’t win games by themselves.

Our offense has been pathetic all year. Simply anemic. We’re dead last in the conference in scoring. We’ve broken 30 points only once this year. For a Purdue offense, that is unacceptable. We did it 5 times last year, and I don’t see the schedule getting any easier from here.

I understand that injuries have been bad, but every team deals with those issues. And, as the boiled sports guys raised earlier, at what point do we look at all these players going down and start to wonder about the training they received in the offseason? Last year, the team seemed to run out of gas late in games. This year, their knees seem to be made of glass. At some point, the strength and conditioning needs to be questioned.

The play calling has been awful. As far as I’ve noticed, we seem to have about 15 plays (4 of which are runs up the middle) that we cycle through almost at random. The jailbreak screen has not worked once this season. It was our big play last year, but every team is watching for it now, come up with something new.

Gibboney is the reincarnation of Brock Spack. How can you have a dedicated special teams coach (which most other teams don’t have) and suck so terribly at coverage? It’s not that difficult a thing to master.

I hate this team. I hate that we have guys like Kerrigan busting their ass in a losing campaign. I hate that good players are falling like dominoes. I hate that they keep games close and suck us in before giving them away. I hate the play calling that makes us look like a 50s era team. I hate that “the under” against Purdue is now the safest bet in college football. I hate wins that feel like losses. I hate dreading Saturdays. I love Purdue.

by Mattdsm on Sep 25, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+100

I understand that injuries have been bad, but every team deals with those issues. And, as the boiled sports guys raised earlier, at what point do we look at all these players going down and start to wonder about the training they received in the offseason? Last year, the team seemed to run out of gas late in games. This year, their knees seem to be made of glass. At some point, the strength and conditioning needs to be questioned.

BTFU!

by BoilerAdam on Sep 26, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Worst home loss since 1996 Indiana?

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by BoilerTMill on Sep 25, 2010 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

At least NIU was a bowl-worthy team

IU came in on a 15 game Big Ten losing streak

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by BoilerTMill on Sep 25, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

valid point

you make…a good point… but I just clump this loss just like NIU… because it was NIU a year later. We’ll see how Toledo fares (probably really bad) but yeah this one stings….

by H Dot Jones on Sep 25, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

NIU had us chewing nails last year becasue we lost on a few big plays minutes, even though we led for a substantial portion of the game. Toledo, on the other hand, kicked the living shit out of that team for the entire game in all phases. NIU was fluky. This is a trend.

"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"

by Boiler Bandsman on Sep 26, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hope's Fire

There’s a great picture of Hope running on the field at the Rose Bowl – has his hat on backwards, he’s looking over his shoulder with his tongue hanging out, with a look that said, “AWESOME.”

He had that fire – and his offensive line back then SHOWED it.

His offensive line Brees senior year put SIX players in the NFL – that includes a reserve.
I know Colletto was an offensive line coach too, but he was negative douchebag. Hope is a hard nosed competitor - who seems to be shrinking from the challenge.

It’s in there. He just needs to get pissed, and get the team pissed. I don’t know what’s missing, but he coached last year’s team — and I saw daring, competitiveness, etc. It’ll be there. I just hope it’s soon. Very soon.

Perhaps he’s not a good judge of his assistants.

Special Teams coach should be given his pink slip TONIGHT.

ACL injuries are not a result of poor conditioning.

And once again, why can’t our defense WRAP UP A PLAYER? It’s like the last three or four years of Spack! Hands don’t tackle. Hits don’t tackle. Hands and Hits and Follow Thru = tackles.

by U-P Boilermaker on Sep 25, 2010 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed....

It was there against Oregon last year…and I don’t doubt that his fire is still there. I just don’t get how this team doesn’t get ready to take care of business….seriously that’s up to the team I suppose… but you also have to instill players that get it on the field. Now I don’t want to question our best defensive player in Kerrigan… and I don’t think this is a Pollard, Edwards type of thing… where they are out to get theirs and not build up the other players ( that shit was annoying). However Kerrigan doesn’t strike me as a vocal player… this is what the D needs as well… Offensive wise… Rob Henry you’re up to bat… I hope you were taking notes when Elliott was @ QB, if for anything to see how to motivate a team.

by H Dot Jones on Sep 25, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

1sick Boiler

I am actually sick over this program. I had bought in to everything and had faith that the coaches really had made improvements going into this year. I’ve tried to convince myself that we were on the verge of breaking out over the last few games. I bleed Old Gold and I can finally say I cant find anything positive.
I’ve lost all Hope. Pun intended.

by BoilerUpAT on Sep 25, 2010 10:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Hope's Comments below

He basically blames the players and injuries for everything, still high on Marve

http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/892/994923.mp3

We’re banged up from playing ND and 3 cupcakes – not a good sign.

by Mattdsm on Sep 25, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Excuses....

Are a lot like assholes…. they are mostly full of shit….

by H Dot Jones on Sep 25, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he's still high on Marve

He needs to get his eyes examined, or perhaps a few inches behind them. Or he’s high on something else. Questionable decision making + disinterest + made-of-glass does not equal a good QB.

"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"

by Boiler Bandsman on Sep 26, 2010 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're still having trouble knowing who are best players are

Verbatim from the press conference. They apparently didn’t have a good Spring Camp…. it’s a tough job for Mr. Hope…injuries do suck…

by H Dot Jones on Sep 25, 2010 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

There have been no injuries on the defensive side of the ball...

Even if we are running on with all cylinders on offense, I don’t see how we win with this defense.

1. We got to the QB ONCE in the first half. Totally dominated on the line.
2. Our LB group does not pick up reads and are slow. The short pass killed us all day long.
3. The continued Purdue philosophy of DB’s playing 10 yards off the receiver kills us against a team with a short passing game like Toledo. (Yeah, Nwestern will pick us apart in 2 weeks).

That was THE worst first half of football I’ve ever seen. No heart from this team.

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Sep 26, 2010 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

So sick of the excuses.

Yeah, we’ve had some bad injuries. Big Ten teams should have enough depth to at least not lose to MAC teams because of them. And honestly, we haven’t looked good at all even before the injuries.

by rcpratt on Sep 26, 2010 3:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree on the offensive playcalling

It was awful in the first half especially. So predictable, so unimaginative.

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Sep 26, 2010 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

YOURE PLAYING A FUCKING MAC TEAM!!!!!!!!!!

/fixed

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Sep 26, 2010 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

This never would happened under Joe TIller.

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Sep 26, 2010 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

One little bit of solace...

You’re not worse than Minnesota. There. I said it.

I think most of the Big Ten is still pulling for you guys. We know what this team has been capable of doing, what this program has accomplished in past years. It really looked like things were looking up after last year’s play. We still need this team to be relevant! As much as we talk about the top-tier teams winning their games, I think it’s the “bottom-tier” teams that matter more, because they show the depth that the conference has.

Just remember — we need this team to step up, unlike Illinois and Indiana. I think most Big Ten fans prefer seeing Ron Zook do face plants every week than having the Illini win. And Indiana, well… everyone has pretty much given up on Indiana at this point.

by Sasser on Sep 26, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

That's hardly comforting.

The only thing comforting right now is the thought of basketball…

by rcpratt on Sep 26, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frankly Scarlet I don't give a damn

… what other schools are doing or not doing! We’ve been sucking hind teat since 2004’ish and crawfishing our way into bowls with the attitude “at least it’s a bowl” or at least we’re better than that JuCo in Bloomington or "we’re just happy to be here!" That was the same attitude the basketball program had before Matty P showed up and hopefully he’s leading the example never give, practice to get better, and step on a neck and twist!

Hey fan base demand excellence or shut the hell up!

by 85Boiler on Sep 26, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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