On the scene: Butler vs. Duke for the National Title
by BoilerTMill on Apr 5, 2010 10:55 AM EDT
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PrintA massive thank you goes out to KJ at The Only Colors today. He is in town for the Final Four and has decided to stay for tonight's game even though the Spartans are out. He also had an extra ticket, one that he was kind enough to let me purchase so I could get one last basketball fix for my addiction until November. As a result, I will be attending tonight's game and supporting the hometown Butler Bulldogs. For one, I have liked Butler for a long time and enjoy seeing them play. As a nice side benefit, I hope to see them knock out the team that put our Boilers out.
So consider this your open thread for tonight's National Title game. Unfortunately, there won't be any Red Buttons or Kramer Moments, but we can get behind Butler and support them anyway. I'll try to throw in a few comments via mobile web if I can, but that is a dicey proposition at best. I guess it just proves that I need to get one of those smart phones rather than the stone tablet and carrier pigeon mobile web that the LG EnV2 offers.
Also for you readers to decide before roughly 7pm when I head downtown: Should I get and wear a Butler shirt? PurdueMatt has declared I would be a traitor, but I look at it as more of an homage. Thus, the following scientific poll:
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Supporting Butler
I can’t do it. I’m a jealous person and little brother making it, and stealing OUR story makes me angry. For less spiteful people think of it this way: Would Butler fans root for you? Given I know 0 Butler alums, I somehow doubt they’d root for us, or IU in this situation, other than IU-wannabes.
by The Original Dude on Apr 5, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
I think they would
I have met quite a few Butler fans this weekend that said they would love to be facing us in the title game.
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No problem cheering for Butler
but no gear unless its a generic final four or ncaa tourney one
by Delaware Boiler on Apr 5, 2010 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
I have no problem cheering for Butler or wearing the gear.
Butler’s a great school and deserves the support, ESPECIALLY the support to take down Duke.
As for commenting from the game, good luck. Even if you had a smart phone, you wouldn’t get much reception or the ability to do anything with it in what a couple friends and I have started calling The Lucas Oil Faraday Cage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
Bill Polian has forgotten more about football than you ever have or ever will know.
Science is awesome!
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I'd say as long as you wear it w/ some sort of Purdue stuff also you're ok.
Id go Butler T with the Purdue hat or vice versa
That is what I was thinking
I always have the Purdue hat except when I am in Miami at Miami football/baseball games.
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I'm sure Butler fans would cheer for us if it was us against Duke
because no self respecting person likes Duke. Toss that Butler gear on.
In Kolb we trust...
TRAITOR! (not really)
Wear the shirt if you want to. Don’t let me or Matt tell you what’s the right thing to do. It’s your choice, be ready for the positives or negatives that come with it. No big deal. You’re not traitor though.
By the way, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a photo of you atop the Empire State Building (or something like that) with a Miami hat on.
Not a traitor.
Wearing another Big Ten team’s colors to the big game would be traitorous, and it goes without saying that it’d be a guillotine-worthy offense to wear colors of a certain team south of Indy. Notre Dame would also be a no-no.
Butler, though, is basically not a direct competitor of Purdue. As long as you never wear Butler gear to a game where Butler and Purdue are facing each other, you’re in the clear.
http://unrepentantindividual.com/ http://thelibertypapers.org/
"Not a direct competitor of Purdue"
They certainly could become more a competitor for Indiana recruits with a national championship to their credit.
Ever Grateful. Ever True.
Its okay to want Butler to do well....
But its not okay to sell out and wear Butler gear as if you went there. This should be the case with any school, not just Butler. You are a Boilermaker, not a Bulldog. If you wear Butler gear you are just like every other bandwagon fan here in Indianapolis that has no connection to the university.
Also, I can’t get over the thought that Butler has been incredibly lucky with their matchups so far and also that Purdue was much more well prepared and much more deserving for this kind of postseason success.
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Well, they've gotten it done though
That’s all that really matters. You have to get it done and score more points than the other team. One could argue we haven’t done that over the past 30 years of the tournament even with the best of circumstances.
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Butler certainly hasn't had an easy run through the tournament.
I’m not really sure what you’re whining about as far as Butler being lucky with their matchups. Yes, Syracuse was short-handed, but that is still a tough team to play. Kansas State had been playing very well going into their game, and not only had two great guards, had some decent post players. Sure, Butler got an “easy” game against Murray St., but would Vanderbilt have been that much tougher for them? And yes, you can argue that they got a “gift” in playing a short-handed, beaten-up 5-seeded Michigan St. instead of Kansas or Ohio St. But Michigan St. were the ones left standing from their corner of the bracket at the end of it all. I thought Michigan St. matched up very well with Butler, being one of the few teams in the country besides us and Duke that could match Butler’s toughness. The point is, you can’t play all of the tough teams on your way to the final four. They’ve been playing great and have beat the teams put in front of them. They’ll get a chance to play the team that beat us and see whether they’re tough enough to prevail in the end.
By that logic
I wouldn’t be allowed to wear Purdue gear even though my diploma is from Wabash. I like my Purdue gear dammit!
"Even though"
Should read “because.”
Sometimes words are hard.
and we're officially live at lucas oil!
special thanks once again to kj from the only colors for tonight’s seat.
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i am officially in section 632, to the left of my colts seats
also, the international space station just passed below me.
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no beer at the final four.
why the hell am i not notified about these things !
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Almost as disappointing
As no beer at the Big Ten Tourney (for those of us who weren’t working during it).
definitely a pro-butler crowd tonight. I hope butler does this
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definitely a pro-butler crowd tonight. I hope butler does this
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enormous boos for duke
i doubt they’ll be shaken though
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even from up here zoubek looks like a goon
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the pace favors butler so far
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Shouldn't Matt Howard
Get an extra foul for the mustache alone?
howard's stache
it looks like Larry Bird’s in 1979
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2 on howard
both have been crap calls
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I agree, so far its seemingly been more
of the ‘no calls’ changing the game than theactually calls made
duke isn't getting every call
but they are getting a lot
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If it keeps up for Butler
We need to consider the ramifications. What would a Butler National Championship mean for Purdue?
It's a trick, get an ax
Singler = Turner?
i mean he didn’t tuck the ball by his head like Evan does, but took just as many steps!
butler is afraid to attack the basket
they know nothing will be called
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thank god duke is missing free throws
it evens up every bailout call
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thank god duke is missing free throws
it evens up every bailout call
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sorry for some double comments
mobile web is spotty here.
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Only took 9 fouls
to get 4 called.
Somewhere Patrick Bade is crying right now.
Nantz
Points out that Purdue heavily recruited Howard in a year when low post depth would have probably given us the national title. Thanks, Dick.
I thought that was a jerk move too.
I was telling my friends, oh thanks for reminding us Mr. Nantz.
I get angry
When they compare Butler to Hoosiers. The only thing that makes it better is when they play the theme from the movie.
I now
have the theme from Hoosiers playing on my laptop.
Clearly you don't understand
Zoubeck plays for Duke. Thus, there was no foul.
This game
Best since Michigan/Seton Hall in 89?
Well
at least we got to see Howard completely lay out Singler on that last play.
by septimusharding on Apr 5, 2010 11:39 PM EDT reply actions
That was awesome!
I noticed that real time, and they showed it about 4 times afterwards too, and I just laughed every single time.
Damn
Butler gives up 60 for the first time in the tourney.
The worst part
Is that I have to suffer through the Duke title coverage to see one last Kramer Moment during One Shining Moment.
Best part of the buzzer shot
Singler got laid out on the screen by Howard. At least he can’t get any uglier…
T-MILL
The little girl was wearing a “Defense lives here” shirt in One Shining Moment!!!
Are you kidding me
They didn’t show Kramer’s shot but they showed 48 shots of Jennifer Hudson? Kiss my white ass CBS.
I avoided the postgame
Ill just watch OSM on youtube later. Couldnt stomach watching Duke win a tourney gift wrapped for them. I want them in the ACC/Big 10. They gettin dropped this time.
A game in Cameron would be great
Great experience, nice revenge if we win. We’re due for a road game, right? And I don’t think there are any rules against teams playing each other too often—MSU had 3 games vs NC in about a 365 day span.
I’d guess it’s more likely MSU might get Duke, though. Television execs would like that—the championship that could’ve been. I can picture us playing @Maryland, though the 3 way tie means one co-champ of MSU/Purdue/OSU gets FSU/Virginia Tech, who were 3 games back in the ACC.
by Beavis Beefcake on Apr 6, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Two brief ones:
A little girl in a “Defense Lives Here” shirt and KG staring down Singler (which was a pretty cool shot actually). But if you weren’t a Boiler, you probably wouldn’t have noticed either as Purdue-related.
by septimusharding on Apr 6, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
They showed
A little girl wearing a “Defense Lives Here” t-shirt and a close-up of KG guarding Singler. Inexplicably, no shot of Kramer’s drive in OT against A&M.
Was it a Defense Lives Here from the site?
If so, that is one of the highlights of my life!
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One Shining Moment
Cannot believe how bad that was.
Can we get
Butler vs. Purdue in the Wooden next year? Who would be against this? Maybe we could even get ND to take on a similar talent such as Ball State for the undercard.
Just got home
Wow. that was freaking amazing. I almost had a shot top Turner’s at the Big Ten Tournament.
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I now this sounds like sour grapes
But dam, our Big 3 could have been on the same level as the ’04’s for Florida.
Duke and Hayward
I should hate Duke. I get it. everyone hates Duke. I hate the Yankees. I hate USC, aOSU, and Michigan. I just don’t hate Duke. I kinda like ‘em. Especially this team.
Zoubek is a bigger, uglier Kramer. How much would you love having that guy on your team? I think we finally understand how everyone else feels about CK3.
They play tough D. Not to our level, but better than most and better than we’re used to seeing from Duke.
Maybe I just like Coach K. I think its a combination of his west point affilition, his leading team USA and the fact that his kids graduate(looking at you huggs). I should hate Duke, but i just can’t.
What I did hate last night, was watching Gordon Hayward tear apart Duke’s D after finding out that Scott Martin stole his schollie to Purdue. At least that’s what Nantz seemed to say. I mean, he’s Robbie with an extra inch and better ball skills. To think that, that weenie Martin is what stood between Hayward and Purdue really pisses me off. We would have been unstoppable. Even after Robbie went down, we still would have been a top seed/final four favorite. damn.
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