I have your upset right here
by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 4:40 PM EDT
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Here is your postgame thread while I work on the wrap up.
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I'll be grinning the rest of the night
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions
I don't get how any expert
Could know our team and know our system and say that an upset is “likely”. Possible, yes?
But, c’mon, this team is almost as good as the one that gave Florida a scare a few years ago.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong.
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And better than the IU team
that got to the National Championship in 2002.
That's cause
they don’t really get to know our team, they just watch the highlights/stats and generalize for the most part
Then they are not an expert
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong.
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I'd even go to semantics about upsets
An upset, by definition, is something that is not likely. It’s all part of the talking head “I know something you don’t” stuff.
The stuff the team seems to have ignored effectively to concentrate on what to do to win.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Some Bracket definitions "Upset".
Pete Tiernan Pete Tiernan has been using stats to analyze March Madness for 19 years.
I got this stuff from a sportsline article…
Not every game in which a lower-seeded team knocks off a higher seed is an upset. Nobody’s going to fit a glass slipper on a nine seed that beats an eight in Round 1. (Actually, nine seeds are 54-46 against their higher-seeded opponents.) It’s only when you get a gap of at least four seed positions between opponents that a game has upset potential.
Surprisingly, two-thirds of the 64-team tourney games have met this condition. Of the 1,575 games that have been played in the past 25 years, 1,043 of them have pitted long shots against favorites — and the underdog has won about 20 percent of the time. That’s an average of 8.3 upsets per tourney, or roughly one in every 7.5 games. (Now you know why the 16 upsets over the past three tourneys is so surprising — it’s about three fewer than usual per dance.)
This chart shows the round-by-round results of upset games in the 64-team era. Because of the way the brackets are set up, most of the upset matchups occur in the first three rounds of the tourney. Of the 1,400 games played in the first three rounds, 1,002, or 72 percent, have been upset matchups. Picking these upsets correctly — or at least minimizing the number of victims you advance — is essential to building a winning bracket. While first-round upsets grab most of the attention, the upsets in the second and third rounds do the most damage to your bracket. Only 19 of the 105 opening-round upset victims are teams seeded one, two or three. More important, the top three seeds are a dominating 281-19 (.937) against first-round dark horses. Only about one in 16 top-three seeded teams will fall victim to an upset in Round 1. To put it another way, less than one top-three seed will lose in the first round per tourney. The last victim was third-seeded Iowa, which was humbled by 14 seed Northwestern State in 2006.
It’s a different story in the second round, where the top three seeds are just 172-52 against Cinderellas. That’s a solid .768 winning percentage, but it’s nowhere near the lockdown .937 rate of the opening round. Instead of only one in 16 teams losing, the top three seeds lose one in every four games — and about two per year. They also comprise 78 percent (52 of 67) of the second-round upsets. Last year, none of the top three seeds got upset. But in 2008, there were two high-seeded upset victims: second-seeded Duke lost to seven seed West Virginia, and two seed Georgetown lost to 10th-seeded Davidson.
that's a lot of words
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
will read when sober
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sober. I read it. I liked it.
It reminded me of a fan fallacy that’s out there, that even the odds we calculate in our head are fuzzy. There has to be some margin of error to say, well, this truly is an upset. Otherwise we get people getting too excited their team with a 49.5% chance won.
Also, what Wonko said below with the 8-9. Which I think the 9-seed has won 54% of the time. Which is not statistically significant, well not yet.
We’ll have something different facing us against whichever Aggies we face. We may still feel like underdogs (national media omg,) but they’ll be the lower seed. It’s part of what adds fun to being a fan as long as we don’t overdo it.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually heard
Someone refer to the No. Iowa win as an upset. So, apparently, definitions be damned when you have the mass media involved.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong.
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There were stretches of this game
like the 13-0 run to start the second half, that make me dream about being in Lucas Oil with our Boilers come April. They need to be more consistent, but my fantasies continue now.
only need 5 more wins
we may be delusional but that’s no reason to stop believing
amen to that
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
A Nation of doubters can't hold us down...
Boiler the fuck up!!!!!
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
My thought for the day
Make a series of videos from todays game of Chris Kramer, Basketball Linebacker, a la Terry Tate
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 4:48 PM EDT reply actions
12 1st round wins in a row.
Not always been pretty, but good job to the team. Also, a tip of the hat to the Siena bloggers who had some good stuff & cross posted. More interesting to read/listen to than the national pundits.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
Amen
Those guys were fantastic this week
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New FB status: Burnt Siena
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions
mine was much angrier
at Seth Davis and crew, for all to see
LewJack
had 6 boards, 7 assists, 8 points. How badass is that?
by septimusharding on Mar 19, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
not bad for a man only playing 75%
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Enough to get accepted
To the Purdue Badassery PHD program
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weird
the Purdue win didn’t move me up in the H&R standings at all
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
or the ones that did
Already had their bracket busted
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I would hope
that no one in this pool picked Purdue to lose
I'm not feeling smart
for picking Wisconsin to beat Kentucky. A win over Siena even closer than it shouldve been isnt bad when you consider how many high seeds lost or had close first round games without one of their best players hurt.
Anyone else a little nervous
over the Wisconsin game?
by septimusharding on Mar 19, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, Wofford c/sh ould be winning
Hughes in foul trouble, Wofford 6-for-13, missed a 1-1 frontend. Too drained to look at more than the box score. That other 4-13 game you know.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
How many kids does she have?
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Hughes has looked awful
the past few minutes.
by septimusharding on Mar 19, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I've the badgers going deep
like lee evans. I might be in trouble.
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Preparation for Sunday
Hope everyone stocks up on their favorite libations tomorrow, if they aren’t already. I mean, whatever coach Painter did at halftime probably did something, but the team responded well after people started posting about drinks and such. I don’t think it’s the first time.
My superstition’s covered with a nasty cheese bagel. Imagine that, one was left over in the lunchroom.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
Living not in Indiana
I can get my lucky drinks all the way up until gametime on Sunday
only one?
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Wher is the Wisconsin
that played the best teams in the Big 10
Hibernating, I hope
Still, sucks when an underdog loses on a turnover and credit to Wofford improving. Wisconsin wiped em out two years ago.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember
they beat us two years ago, I hope that Painter never lets a player forget that Wofford beat us at home, anything can happen
That loss
actually turned our season around- big wake up call. We were MUCH tougher after that game.
I thought it was 3
It was a baffling loss, and one that looks a little better now and shows the coach did have the team headed in the right direction. (Their Pomeroy rating was 200+ in 08 and 09.)
Wake up call for our team, too, as you said.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Coach Lusk comment after the game...
“We came out more focused on defense in the 2nd half, but you cannot stress the importance of us hitting some shots to start the half. That was huge for us, and our confidence was very high at that point…”
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
Hitting Shots
It’s always as simple as the one that can score the most points
if Grant was saving up all season for the tournament
I am totally fine with that
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that i have no specific game to watch
I can show 3 different games in front of me, Big screen and 2 separate laptops
if only I could commandeer the little lady's laptop
I’d be set
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
My Little lady
doesn’t get home for another hour and a half so that’s the time frame I have
to watch 3 games at once
the second is well on its way, the first will have to wait till she gets home
the opportunities for a drunk threeway are rare
enjoy every minute of it
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
live it up
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
what was LJ's FT% last season when he shot more than 8?
he looked like he hadn’t shot one since middle school
POTFH
EVERYONE was picking Siena.
Good job, boys.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
Even Obama
I’m not sure I feel comfortable telling the commander in chief to suck it.
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
"You cancel the trip to Asia and THIS is the bracket you come up with??!"
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 19, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not a physical threat
So I think you’re safe.
He didn’t ramble on about it, and he did say he was sorry for Purdue.
So Boilermaker Nation could just throw back a “yes we can.”
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
clever move
to foul Lewjack-
Sienna’s coach is pretty damn good. The next time we need to leave LJ out if it’s tite at the end.
Welcome to Hell, Sienna
Where was their vaunted press? Their lightning quick fast break? They had a nice comeback at the end, but all in all, they’re werent that impressive.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
Where di you get that pic
i want to put it on my background
game recap on SI.com
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/ncaa/men/gameflash/2010/03/19/62918_gamephotos.html
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by carmen_fanzone on Mar 19, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool pic
The letting Siena back in does worry me though. The team doesn’t do it on purpose, I know.
Don’t know what I’d say if they let Duke or Baylor off the hook.
Still, this win leaves me happier than most first round wins.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Putting a game away....
….is going to be tough without Robbie. His free throws alone would help with that.
Yeah, like you, I think this is a very satisfying win, no matter what happens Sunday.
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by carmen_fanzone on Mar 19, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Game wrap now up on the front page
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Sienna Players comments
McCaffery called timeout and then swore at his players, incensed at uncharacteristic turnovers. That included one in the open court from Moore, the nation’s assist leader. McCaffery said he hadn’t seen Moore do that since he began watching him in high school in Conshohocken, Pa.
“They jumped on us,” said Ubiles, a senior accustomed to his Saints doing the jumping in first-round games. “We didn’t expect it to happen like that.”
So shall we treat this as our Open thread for the night session?
Seem appropriate
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Gonzaga looks manly vs. Florida State
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I'm getting Duke Ark-PB
the sacrifices you make to be in Yuengling country
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
already up 11-3
Ouch.
Checked on the new homebrew now. Almost done. The last one wasn’t very good so I had to get rid of it.
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always a shame to see beer fall by the wayside
and instead of stunning HD, i’ve got crappy MMOD feed. Although really I’m stretching to find things to complain about today.
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Early thoughts on Texas A&M
I need to do some homework
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Interesting
We have two common opponents. They lost to West Virginia, but beat Minnesota by 1
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they look pretty consistent
Beat the teams they should beat. Not a bad loss in the bunch.
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Sloan is hte only double figures guy
They aren’t really deep, but they have done well without Roland
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Speaking of consistency
Minnesota is next-to-last in the stat on KenPom. So those of us worried about a reprise of the first half can breathe a little easier. Don’t think I saw it mentioned.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
We lead the all-time series 2-1
haven’t played since 2001
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exactly
I’ll see your pretty fuckin’ tuff- athletic and raise you one Chris Kramer
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing you don't know
Both dealt with a really unfortunate injury—both not really seeming to get the respect they hoped for. Lots of people picking USU/Siena & lots thinking winner will be fodder for Duke.
I can see how few people would want to watch this game as it could wind up 48-47.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Going on numbers
http://kenpom.com/team.php?y=2010&team=Duke
Zoubek cleans the o-boards when he’s in. He really did a number on us in Mackey. The Plumlees are young. Duke seems to go 7-8 deep with a big 3 on the floor almost all the time. No really terrifying center but a lot of height. Not sure who’d guard Singler.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
having had to watch far too much dook this year
they rotate in bigs like they’ve got a lifetime supply. Zoubek fouls out and one of the Plumlees comes in and goes and gets hot. Keeping JJ out of foul trouble could be tough. Bade would probably get a solid 12 minutes in before fouling out and I would have serious thoughts of burning Sandi’s redshirt.
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I am praying Louisville shows up and gives a crap
I like anyone we would face beyond Duke, but the Blue Devils are a terrible matchup for us.
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Anyone watching MSU-NMSU?
That guy in the middle for New Mexico St. looks so freaking tall.
by septimusharding on Mar 19, 2010 7:42 PM EDT reply actions
just got it up and running
and yes
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
he looks like JJ +75 lbs
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it me
or have there been a lot more double technicals this year?
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 7:47 PM EDT reply actions
scratch that, it was only a double foul
announcers are idiots
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Post Game Presser # 1
opening statement from Coach Painter and then
we’ll take questions for the student-athletes.
COACH PAINTER: I thought the key to
the game was how we came out in the second half,
the first five minutes. Keaton Grant made some
huge 3’s for us to get us going. We got stops, we
got steals that led to points on the offensive end
and really just had a lot of energy. That’s what we
have talked about starting games and starting the
second half if we can come out with energy and let
our defense kind of establish the tempo of the
game, it’s really helped us this year.
And I was proud of our guys and we have
been through it in very similar to Siena in terms of
losing a very good player. They lost a very good
player and they’re a little bit short handed, but
obviously that’s part of the game. But they’re a
good team. They are a very good team.
I’m just proud of our guys being able to get
this first round win.
Post Game Presser # 2
THE MODERATOR: Take questions for
the student-athletes.
Q. Lewis, you’re hurt, right?
LEWIS JACKSON: I’m all right.
Q. Can you just talk about it?
Obviously you seemed like you were really the
difference maker there. The zone defense you
did what you wanted and you really got the
guys going.
LEWIS JACKSON: Coach told me to be
aggressive. My teammates trusted me. I knocked
down a jump shot and opened up some gaps
JaJuan to get the ball and he hit some open shots.
Keaton made some open shots. And everybody
on the team just stepped up when it was time.
Q. Coach, what adjustments was Chris
Kramer able to do in the second half especially
against Alex Franklin?
COACH PAINTER: Obviously we were
concerned with Franklin with his size and his ability
to play at the rim. We thought in the first half we
didn’t do a good job with him when he had the ball
in the perimeter. We really wanted to pressure him
and make him handle the basketball and try to
beat one of our guards. Keaton guarded him at
times, beat him off the bounce. But just try to get
into him and pressure him because we knew we
had a mismatch at certain times when he got the
ball off the rim with his strength and his ability to
score. So we wanted to make sure we had a
mismatch when he was on the perimeter and then
just trying to pressure him into going a little bit
faster and we thought we did a good job of that.
Presser # 3
Q. How aware were you guys that you
guys were a popular pick to be upset in the first
round because everybody was saying, well
since the Hummel injury they got no shot.
KEATON GRANT: We were very aware.
You can’t help to see other games especially on
ESPN and them when they do the bracketology on
CBS and other teams picking against you and the
analysts picking against you and you got the
President picking against you, so it’s a different
thing, but we were very aware. So we just use that
as motivation.
LEWIS JACKSON: I think the biggest
thing was for me when President Obama just said
he kind of felt sorry for us, just everything we been
through and with this team and the adversity we
face. Guys don’t want people to feel sorry for us,
we want to prove that we still have a lot of talent
and can make a big run in the tournament. I think
that was the biggest thing for me.
JAJUAN JOHNSON: We were definitely
aware of all the different picks and all that. But it’s
pretty much nothing you can really do about it, just
go out there and play and that’s what we did
tonight. And we were fortunate enough to get the
win.
Thanks for this, and good from the players
Having someone feel sorry for you isn’t enough and doesn’t help you do what you want—I’d hoped they’d feel that, and execute on it, and they did.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Last Presser (from SI)
Q. Lewis, I know you hadn’t probably
shot as many free throws this year as you
wanted to. You stepped up there with a little
more than a minute to go and miss the first and
you went back with 49 seconds to go. That
was an ugly one but they all count don’t they?
Talk to me about those two free throws you
had.
LEWIS JACKSON: Like you said, the first
one it was ugly but I mean no matter how it drops,
it drops. It’s March Madness time and crazy things
happen. So I’m just glad it went in. Once you see
the first one go through the net, the second one I
stepped up there with confidence the whole time
the coaching staff and my teammates had
confidence and told me to be ready because they
would probably foul me again and so just knock it
down.
Thanks for the presser notes
I got used to it last week.
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I stumbled on them
so I figured what the hey- certainly more intelligent than anything I would be coming up with (Parry and thrust commentary here- insight NOT required).
Just out of curiosity,
Where did you stumble on these?
by septimusharding on Mar 19, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
No good games on right now
I am boycotting Georgia Tech-OK State because Ga Tech doesn’t deserve to be in the field in my opinion
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that pick was a shock to a lot of people down here in ACC country
Helped Paul Hewitt keep his job. For now.
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the old losing record in conference rule
It would be so simple to enforce and eliminate so much bubble discussion
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I was appalled at the number of bids the ACC took this year
The problem was that there was a clusterf*ck in the top half of the conference and the selection committee did acid before sorting it out. VT definitely should have gotten the nod over GT. In my mind the only things that got GT in was that they were ranked briefly and a win over Duke. It should take more than that.
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree with the losing record in conference but when you include the tournament
Georgia Tech went 10-10 in conference. until they made the finals, i had them out
I hate their treatment yesterday
I guess we were supposed to be shocked by that massive upset.
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OU handing out the beatdown was far more shocking
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely
I know ESPN tends to shill Big East teams, but I didn’t expect to see Georgetown get it handed to them. Maybe, GT should start playing defense.
they got lucky Old Dominion was seeded a little high
while we got screwed with Siena who was seeded a little low
Siena was a damn fine team
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that 10 minute span to start the second half would have buried many teams
I feel very fortunate they could hang on
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
T in the NMSU-MSU game
Did an NMSU player say something rhyming with Duck Shoe?
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They have the look of a classic Izzo team
Not great int he regular season, but tough as bastards in the NCAA’s
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Like Jimmie Johnson in the chase
I’m probably the only one that gets that reference.
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you just reference NASCAR here?
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that's gotta be a first
In my defense, the show Madhouse on the History channel is filmed at the local track here in Winston-Salem.
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW, Mrs. T-Mill is envious of you
Her Hurricanes baseball team is playing at Duke tonight. One of her best friends lives in Durham too.
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She really is a baseball fan
I consider it a win that I got to name the dog after Grady Sizemore
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Huge baseball fan
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Based on tonight
I think Gonzaga could really challenge Syracuse (assuming they get past Vermont). They’ve got the inside/outside presence to beat a zone, especially if Onuaku’s quad isn’t better.
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:28 PM EDT reply actions
Onuaku out for hte whole weekend
By my understanding
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If only we had gone with the "strained quad" approach with Hummel
maybe we’d be sitting with a 2 seed. Damn our transparency.
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally back to my computer
After a day at the bar to watch Purdue on a big screen. My bracket hopes Ga. Tech pulls this out but the Big 12’s track record thus far doesn’t agree.
GD Georgia Tech, just give up already
If you lose I will get all the 7-10 matchups correct in both my brackets
Wow
Did CBS really just take me from a tied Ga. Tech/Ok. State game to a 12 point Gonzaga lead?
Working on the Texas A&M preview right now
I am scared, guys. They play five guys at 6’7" or better.
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Don't worry
Our depth lies in our front line.
again
I see your 6’7’’ and raise you one Chris Kramer
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we clone him in two days?
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No, but if I can just get this damn time machine to work
I might be able to buy us some more time
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
dude
didn’t you see jurassic park? that has world domination written all over it
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but if utah state had even tried to drive
they would have been able to. a&m’s win seemed to be a result of their hot first half and utah’s state incredible stupidity.
we've been prone to some anti-drive stupidity at times too
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
we have but utah state's stupidity was something else
one player missed like EIGHT 3 pointers
even grant realizes there comes a time to stop shooting 3s
Going to have to give that boy a talking to.
I shook his hand before their Illinois game and got no credit.
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Punch him in his labia
I promise that makes sense if you read his site.
FSU climbing back against Gonzaga
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
51-42 with 7:11 left
Gonzaga looked like they were going to run away with it
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Closer now
55-50 Gonzaga at the under 4 timeout. FSU has the ball and just got fouled (not sure if they’re in the bonus, though)
by septimusharding on Mar 19, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
at least it's not the duke game
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
for as crappy as all these games looked at halftime
things are heating up
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely
Someone lit a fire under New Mexico State’s ass.
i was going back and forth between GT and Gonzaga
has MSU scored this half?
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The Mrs. is awesome
She is bringing me another beer. Life is good.
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no pancakes though
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damn, beat me to it
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
If she brings pancakes, T-Mill is done for the night
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
brings a whole new meaning to breakfast in bed
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
sbnation
Doesn’t require that its sites remain family friendly does it?
Depends
From what happened between their Ohio State site and a random Michigan blog they do watch some stuff if enough people get pissed off.
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i need more screens
Or CBS here to stop showing a crappy Duke game
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions
a quick look at Texas a&m
33% from 3 point range, 66% from the free throw line
slightly outrebound opponents by 2/game
12 turnovers/game, cause 14/game
Non Conference losses to Washington, New Mexico and West Virginia
Non Conference wins against Clemson and Minnesota and now Utah St
lost to Kansas St, lost to Kansas twice, split with Baylor & Texas & Oklahoma St
best player is Donald Sloan who is a guard
i counted 4 forwards who are 6-7 or taller none
balanced scoring with only one current starter averaging over 10
height will be an issue but not as bad as the connecticut game last year
FSU Zags getting really interesting
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:13 PM EDT reply actions
and ballgame
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Fl. St./Gonzaga
Is finally giving us Gus Johnson in full throat.
New Mexico State takes the lead!
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i can't believe CBS here has stuck with the 70-42 duke game
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I am
still, I think even Duke fans must be annoyed by now
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i was in Ohio yesterday and we got stuck with the Kentucky game late
even though Ohio University was playing georgetown
where in Ohio?
if it’s anywhere near Columbus, you’d never know OU existed
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
during that game in Dayton
and i know they are pretty much irrelevant in the entire state but still Kentucky was up 40 and they are showing video of fans sleeping in the crowd but they couldn’t switch games.
OU is a state school after all.
And actually older than THE osu
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
so is miami (OH) unless i'm mistaken
Ohio University being older is the reason that ohio state is now THE ohio state university
Miami is
but not a state school like OU
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
miami ohio is a state school
its in my county
i should know better
half my HS class went there
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
worthington christian
D-III/IV school
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
suburb of columbus
solid in basketball and soccer
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
ok i'm from the cincinnati area
explains why i can’t place them
where'd you go to school in cincy?
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
lakota west
big high school that trys to waste all their money. jordan hicks (#1 linebacker recruit) just came out of there. i think purdue is looking at a few linemen for next years class
we've been whittling down the number of people that can relate to this portion of the thread
I’ve heard of LW, can’t say I saw much of them while I was in OH. Mostly the big guns like Moeller and then the small ones like Indian Hills that we actually played.
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Gus Johnson
I just want to hear him shout PANCAKES! if Vermont hits a big shot to take a late lead over Syracuse
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That would be beyond spectacular
Although “Maple Syrup” might fit a bit better…
by dbaltman on Mar 19, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who would have thought
That 3 Keaton’s would be key in team’s games today (Grant for Purdue, Nankovil for Wisconsin and Page for Oklahoma State). Surely there was a line on that somewhere right?
big ten has not looked good at all today
Minnesota lost
Wisconsin tried to
Michigan St struggling
I'd disagree, Big Ten got screwed in the seeding
While the Big East got a lot better and still sucked
yeah seeding sucked but they were all favored except Minnesota
Big East is overrated as always
As much as I want the BT to look good
I wouldn’t be heartbroken if OSU decided to go home early
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN wants to rename itself ETJWSB
The Evan Turner John Wall Sperm Bank
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
This is setting up nicely
A dull day of games, only to have Gus Johnson on potentially the first ever 16 over 1
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Mrs. T-Mill's new fantasy football team name
Just The Tip
Did I mention her and her best friend are the only two girls in our league, but talk bigger smack than the guys.
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T-Mill's:
“Go make me some pancakes”
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I date you to challenge Prince to a game of basketball
And make sure your peoples is there to see it
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
you do
how the hell did he end up in Yellow Springs?
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess he smoked too much reefer with all the other hippies
Yellow Springs is know for “alternative lifestyles”
Update on the Bracket Challenge
Heading into the late games Rory D87 2 is in the lead. Dbaltman is 10 points back
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Thanks for the shout out
This is my best year in a while.
On a fantasy football note, my football league determines its draft order each year based on the results from our NCAA brackets in the prior spring. I would highly recommend it as it kicks the tourney up an extra notch (as if that were needed).
What did Lucas injure?
I was still changing between games
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
and spartans are dropping like flies
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
They looked great in the first half
but have completely melted down in the second. NMSU is making some impressive shots, too.
MSU isn't hitting the glass all that hard
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate OSU when we play them
But I kind of like watching them, and I like to feel like I can relate to Diebler since that’skind of my style of play (in intramural leagues)
their fans annoy me, their coach annoys me
at least indiana sucks
the fans are the worst
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
even the ones that graduate from G.E.D.
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
wherever that is
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
If for no other reason than the fact that a MSU could help Purdue and other Big Ten teams in the future.
screw the underdog
My bracket is on life support
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
My best bracket of ten
Purdue winning the whole thing with a Final Four of Purdue, New Mexico, Michigan State, and Butler.
Why Not?
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My best reason for why not
Is that Indianapolis could not survive a weekend that would be that awesome.
because i'm greedy
and i want UCSB, Vermont, Cornell and Purdue
Believe in the Fightin' Andy Bernards!
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Hey, whoa, first things first
Gotta first hope to match up with Louisville who are overconfident after beating Duke and Old Dominion who maybe ran out of gas.
Oh, yeah, and to show I’m not greedy, I’ll settle for Purdue beating TAMU on a buzzer beater.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Izzo does a crapton of appealing to the refs
He just is good at doing it when people aren’t watching most of the time. I’d say he is second behind Bo Ryan in the Big Ten for whining to the officials.
Round 2 upsets
For some reason I really like No. Iowa over Kansas. I can definitely see St. mary’s over Villanova too
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I have St. Mary's in one of my brackets
Feel much better about it after the Robert Morris game
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
What the hell?
Is Young for New Mexico State faking an injury so his coach will have more time before he has to take him out after fouling out?
And moving
from his hamstring to his crotch.
Vermont up 3-2
SHOCK THE WORLD!!
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vermont will be my fondest tournament memory
i won a lot of money with my bracket the year they pulled the upset and i remember them being just one of the upsets i called
Thansk CBS
You just took me from a 1 point Michigan State game so that I could see commercials. Awesome.
wow, lane violation
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by doublegoldandblack on Mar 19, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Wow...
That was a very marginal lane violation. I CAN’T believe the refs would call that with less than 20 seconds to go in a 2 point NCAA tourney game…. Put your whistles away
exactly
lane violations are rarely called, why call them in the last minute. it’s like calling three seconds in the last minute of the seventh game of the NBA finals
ridiculous call
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
and now the comments die down until the games get interesting
…if they get interesting.
we’ve got 1 v 16, 2 v 15, 4 v 13 and a 8 v 9
he did a game yesterday i think
early session
That's a good use for him
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't you mean "overdid?"
Or is that assumed?
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
announcer is a genius
one second on the shot clock and he says “they have to work quickly here”
We need some Wilson Phillips for Vermont
The Dream Is Still Alive
I think I have been drinking too much
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Same
That’ll be my victory lap. Might do the boiler brass next year also for a free trip to the NCAA’s :)
Co-ops? Internships?
That’s right. That’s why I’ve had one permanent job in 8 years since graduation!
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Co-ops are like internships
but you repeat with the same company for several sessions, and go during the academic semester. Usually you alternate semesters (work→school→ work→school) for 3 or 5 pairs of work-school. Good way to get a bunch of experience, most companies pay pretty well too.
Must be nice
I interned for a summer at the radio station in Kokomo. Through that, I could go back and get my dream job right now, but Mrs. T-Mill doesn’t want to live in Kokomo.
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I co-oped in Fort Wayne for a while, and they were all IPFW kids (read: live-at home losers), but then I switched to L-3 Communications outside of Dallas, TX… A ton more fun down there.
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
its a reason for me not to co-op
so i can be on campus next spring
I should have
bought a VIP season pass and then sold tickets to the basketball games that I couldn’t go to, I probably would have made money
I split a VIP pass with a guy graduating in December.
He used football and winter basketball, then I paid him $70 for the January → March bball games. We both won.
How do they do football now?
If someone can get Mrs. T-Mill and I safely into the student section now that would rock. It would be a great column too.
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
they didn't guard this past year
of course they didn’t have a reason to
General Admission for the whole student section
and you flash your student ID at the gates, and your student ticket stub at the section entrance
if you get in the main concourse you can get in the student section
if they aren’t paying attention. if they are have a student bring his friends tickets out to you so you have extra student ticket stubs
Nice that it is general admission
We had assigned seats in my day
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not bad
I still have my student ID, but a 12 year old picture may not fool them.
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
depends on which games
selling the fall semester games won’t get you much.
spring semester probably could make money
boring game
too bad they won’t switch for me when it gets really ugly
Okay I've wanted to say this for a long time
But that guy must be gay in the Miller Light commercial, if doesn’t suck up to that hot chick in order to get laid.
another opportunity for a big east team to lose
louisville playing cal
I'm torn, would love to see a Big East loss
But I think Louisville would do better against Duke, and the Big East already took a big hit.
Conference dislike vs team dislike—such a delicate philosophical question to balance.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
louisville can only beat syracuse
cal might be able to hang w/ duke
Let's get past Texas A&M first
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I would LiveBlog that Nude
If it meant a title and a banner to point in the direction of Bloomington
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I really must stop drinking tonight
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Not looking ahead, just gauging dislike
Though it is nice when the two mesh.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 20, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Vermont-Syracuse
Someone forgot to tell Vermont to quit
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Seth Davis
called Spokane the place for upsets today. So far, a 4 and two 5’s have won. GG, douchebag.
My job has nothing to do with basketball
But I’m doing better than he is right now as far as bracket picks
The Mad Thatter
(are we allowed to do this without dbaltman?)
by septimusharding on Mar 19, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
not a Purdue player so I think we're good
unless there’s a set of unwritten rules that I have not read
Anyone listen to the postgame interviews
on GBI? At the end of the one-on-one Kramer interview, the guy says, “Is that an open wound on your arm?” Classic.
by septimusharding on Mar 19, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
Someone woke up Louisville
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YES!!!
A dude for Vermont just went into row 2 of the press, but still got back into the play
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So have you actually decided the rewards for the H&R backet challenge
I’m thinking a night on the town with Mrs. TMill might be a good enough reward as long as there is pancakes involved.
sorry I had to break the silence
I can direct you to her best friend
That’s it
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
White girl from new Hampshire.
Has lived in Miami for some time though
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i think we are all falling asleep here
anyone watching good games? i’m stuck w/ tosu
about a 1/4 mile from my apartment
I think i still have the quarter mile speed to make it back in 60 seconds
andw e've officially cross a strange boundry
One that I never thought would be crossed
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
outside of the state of kentucky
i say go for it. but you didn’t get this from me
i realize there are multiple campuses
we need a nickname for the one in columbus
no cause columbus is easily much much better than cleveland, cincinnati, and even toledo
step off campus at University of Cincinnati and you will be mugged
From what I have to talked to OSU grads
You are likely to be mugged no matter where you are on campus
never heard that
maybe these ppl are just pussies who get scared by 5 year old girls?
a bunch of my high school went there but i’ve never heard anything bad
maybe i’m wrong though
the guy i was talking to
was jacked with a fist to the face within less than a mile of campus. I also spent the night at OSU and was told to not park my car in near this park witihin 1/4 mile of the campus
i didn't think about that
thats an interesting debate
regional or city
A Milton Berle game
That’s what this Syracuse-Vermont game feels like
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Maryland-Houston seems like hte best one left
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
"If you don't get over the top the runs can take a lot out of you."
Highlight of the night
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Am I the only one that enjoys the Bags fly free commercial?
I just think it’d be awesome if they actually did that to another airline’s flight.
Makes me pissed I am flying Delta in 4 weeks
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather put up for the wierd smell on AA flights
and cram might shit into a small carry-on bag for a cheaper price
I look for one feature in an airline
It doesn’t crash
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I do have a crap load of miles with Delta now
Northwester was the cheapest out of Indy for years for nearly everywhere, so I racked up a lot
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Frontier is good out west
They’re big if you’re flying out of Denver. When I was in Dallas, it was all either AA (out of DFW) or southwest (out of Love Field)
more likely to be stuck by lightninight/ raped in the rear end in the same day
as always this stat was completely made up
I flew southwest for the first time
a month ago when I went to Vegas. It wasn’t so bad, and drinks are a dollar cheaper. You know, if you’re into that kind of thing.
"Jon Diebler cannot be stopped from the perimeter"
Yeah, not when there isn’t anyone within 6 feet of him. I can do that too.
Not saying he is nearly as talented
but Turner is like a young ’Bron. Nearly unstoppable when he takes it to the rack, but settles his inconsistent long jumper way too often.
and is a freak of nature
6’8" 250 and freakishly athletic
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what she said!
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 19, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
with vermont and ucsb losing i'm forced to rethink my mythical final four
Midwest-Ohio University
West-Murray St
East-Cornell
South-Purdue
Was't expecting the Lousville-Cal game to be a blow out
I guess the Pac-10 deserved a little more respect
The Ohio State University - Central
wins and advances
Well kids,
I am shutting it down. I have had enough computer for one day. See y’all tomorrow
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Just got back from a beer/dinner run
And I wanted to get on here to at least say that I whole-heartedly approve of the Mad Thatter. That is beautiful.
Hell yeah!
Can I get an internship as nickname secretary or something? I make great coffee.
by septimusharding on Mar 20, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
When the UH cheerleaders say "Hou-ston Cou-gars"
It sounds like they’re doing the “You can’t do that” chant.
why would you remind me
i was happy again
Maybe they're saving it
So they can have an epic combo of RH’s ACL tearing and Derrick Roland’s leg breaking
Does this involve
Shitting on the porch of a home with a Kentucky flag, then sprinting a 1/4 mile in under 60 seconds?
its spring break
i’m on a required reading break
Could have done without
Reading “you’re infected by the bacteria in your mother’s colon.”
Its gonna take me a while to un-see those words.
I nominate dbaltman as a replacement for temporary dictator
i could have gone w/o the reading
Well done
And as I want to avoid bloodshed, I will end this attempted coup.
Word of the day toilet paper.
Its quite resplendent.
How can they be a fan of both?
That’s like being an IU basketball/ND football fan but a whole hell of a lot worse.
Bracket day 1 results
6 incorrect, including 1 sweet 16 team lost (G’Town) and 1 elite 8 team lost (Richmond)
You all?
Thus far
I’m 27 for 32. Missed 2 of my Sweet 16 (Minnesota and Marquette).
Alright fellas, I think I'm out for the night
Behave yourselves and I’ll see you tomorrow.
That does it
Good threads guys. Good night, and hopefully everybody gets to enjoy some Pancakes Saturday morning.
Is this today's open thread, also?
2010 Big Ten Champs, Baby!
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Anyone else watching the game?
I picked Nova to win this, but lose their next one, so I would GLADLY take them getting knocked off today!
2010 Big Ten Champs, Baby!
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