Brick City
Well kids, now we wait. Personally, I am off the ledge and looking forward to tomorrow night. The insane proclamations that we will fall to a five seed or worse are greatly exaggerated. We're getting a 3 seed and that's that. Today's game was a perfect storm of sorts. Minnesota was playing with loads of confidence and adrenaline after last night's win. They hit some shots early and established themselves on the glass. We had one of the worst shooting nights ever. Please bear that in mind. Even if we had Robbie Hummel, which is the qualifier for every game left this season, he is not scoring 30 points and pulling down 24 rebounds. This was going to be a loss regardless when you combine those two main factors, and any thinking person will see that.
I give credit to Minnesota. They did what they needed to do. We got good looks that weren't falling and there was nothing else you can do. I think the final margin is even somewhat respectable when you look at it. After a brief push forced it under 20 the Gophers hit a few shots to get it back around 28 with about 12 minutes to go. At that point, Painter said he had seen enough. He pulled the plug on the game and we went through the motions for the last ten minutes.
Unfortunately, that did not prevent Lewis Jackson from being pancaked. It was at the opposite end of the floor from me, so I didn't see it, but that is the one thing that could drop our seed even more. All we can do is wait there. I'll have more quotes about LewJack's status as well as Painter's reactions later. Right now I am still waiting for him to come out and address the media.
If there is one positive we can take from this it is the play of D.J. Byrd. He hasn't had much of an opportunity to do much lately, but he made the most of it today. I don't care that it happened in garbage time. The fact that it happened is something we can take away from this. Coach Painter has made it clear he will go with whatever is working. If Byrd earned himself more playing time in the NCAA Tournament then so be it.
That's really the only positive though. This is the first time I have really seen some quit in us. We quit attacking the basket when we weren't getting rolls or hitting free throws. We started our abortive comeback by attacking the basket and it worked, but the instant Minnesota showed some resiliency we went back to hoisting awful jumpers and pretty much resigned ourselves to losing. Maybe we were conserving for the NCAA's, but that doesn't ease this wound.
Ultimately, there is nothing else you can say about this. It happened, so we need to move on. That's it. That's all you can do. Tomorrow we find out our seed and opponent. One thing that can definitely help us is that after 20 games, we are done seeing Big Ten opponents. The air of familiarity with our opponents is gone, so we're going to get at minimum a pair of games against teams that have not seen us yet. That will help some.
So everyone, please calm down. Have an adult beverage of choice and relax. I'll run an open thread from Conseco for the championship, as well as one during the selection show. We can only handle what is in front of us. For now, that is a lower seeded opponent from a smaller conference. I hate clichés, but let's do one game at a time and focus only on what is ahead of us.
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Stuff from the presser
Opening statement: We didn’t have anything in our tank and generic quotes about being humbled.
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Kramer on seeding
None of its in our hands. The only thing we can do is win basketball games and today we didn’t have the effort we needed to. Everything regarding is in their hands. All we can do is practice and go wherever they send us.
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Kramer on today
Mentally we weren’t ready to play three games in three days. We need to keep this sour taste in our mouth and use it as motivation. Minnesota played harder and we need to flip that and use it on someone else.
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It did seem
That the back-to-back games were not something Purdue was ready for.
One more reason the Conference Tournaments suck.
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Didn't seem to bother Minnesota any.
Granted, I don't know what down it is..
right
That had a lot to do with why they won, don’t ya think?
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Kramer on LewJack
We played the first half without Lew. Optimistically, i think Lew going to be back. But if he’s not out there we have to all step up and be more efficient. It all comes down to getting stops and rebounding the basketball.
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Painter on today
It’s one thing to miss shots, but when you get outrebounded by 24 its an effort. When you miss shots like that you’re going to get outrebounded, but not by 24.
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Painter on E'Twaun and LewJack
I didn’t take him out because of injury, but because of the injury. LewJack, they stepped on the top of his foot, but they felt he could come back.
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Thanks for the updates. Always interesting to see what coaches have to say about games like this.
by SpartanBoiler on Mar 13, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
is that "but because of the score" in your first sentence?
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by carmen_fanzone on Mar 13, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
He took him out because of the score.He said the game was over.
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Painter on Purdue's profile
They have to evaluate us on the guys that are currently playing. We’re 4-2 without Rob, We’re a good basketball team, but not better. We can’t control a part of that. We have to go out and play without making excuses. Guys in our league know us and its tough because we’re not adjusting.
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VarmitCong?
That was a wild pack of rabid, extremely tall gophers with AIDS and a chewing fetish.
And we came out like Bambi. It looked as if all our guys did was listen to the media telling all that we had absolutely no chance without Robbie.
Hopefully, Painter can turn this into a teaching lesson. Maybe Robbie himself needs to step up – he’s still a team leader, right? If not, how’s spring football practice coming?
Rob's laid up in a hospital room
You can’t fault him for a lack of leadership when he was operated on 5 days ago. Hopefully he’ll be at the NCAA game, but I don’t think that’s a given.
I was actually looking forward.
I wasnt’ aware that type of surgery keeps you in the hospital that long. I would assume he would at least stop by for practice next week, if not travel to the NCAA games.
Maybe he can friggin’ tweet their timid butts. He’s still got thumbs, right??
I was only in the hospital for 24 hours after my ACL surgery
But I bet they are keeping him there longer to do intensive physical therapy that will help getting him walking again sooner.
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Thanks for the updates
This was an absolutely brutal game to watch but I forced myself to endure it. When Moore started the game off 0-everything, it was apparent that it just wasn’t our day. Obviously I’m disappointed in Moore and Johnson and they are really going to need to step it up in order for us to see the second weekend of the NCAA tournament.
4 seed
We haven’t proved anything with Hummel gone.
We’re going to need a perfect storm of Etwaun shaking off today’s game and scoring 25+ a game, JuJuan trying to actually play like a center when he has some someone tall guarding him, Keaton getting hot again, and playing Boilermaker defense instead of that crap we saw today…to do anything in this tournament.
I was still optimistic until today’s fiasco. Now I can totally see a lower seed, small conference team with a couple trees underneath giving us trouble in the first round.
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I know it seems like I blame a lot of things on the officials (if you even notice I've said anything at all)
But, man, it has to be so tough to play a game one night where everything close gets called a foul to a game like Minnesota semi-final where nothing gets called. I know Purdue’s shooting would have caused them to lose anyway, but it’s embarrassing for the Big Ten that the officials can be so inconsistent. All those moving screens and hacks by Minnesota all game made for some bad basketball. I watched other conference tournaments last night and today and none of them get controlled by the officials more than a typical Big Ten game. It’s sickening.
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Minnesota is just a bad matchup for us even with Hummel
Any team with two quality big men like that and some good perimeter guys is a tough matchup for us. That’s been true for as long as I’ve been watching Purdue basketball.
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Perhaps
but we did beat them twice during the regular season. If we plan on going on a run in the tourney, then we better figure out how to deal with this matchup problem because we’ll very likely face a similar team at some point in the tourney.
Not as likely as you would think
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On a limb here-
We are gonna get shipped out west and a 7 seed. That comm guy was a prick (at half time) and he seemed to be directly inferring Purdue-
Gumbel can go suck a nut- I am SO SICK of listening to them pontificate on our seeding arrangements. The snickers when giving the score- were audible and embarrassing to them as semi professional ass holes.
there is absolutely no way we're going to be a seven seed
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Dude
I hope your right .. Will defer to your better insight and familiarity with the process. It just seems we are cursed right now and the committee guy made it pretty clear they are bound by no rules save their own.
I mean is there a written statute that says we can’t drop 4 seeds after a display like that? Our body of work doesn’t belong to us anymore- that has been abundantly reiterated by most of the announcers as well as pundits (Parrish- is a dick- but is a Pundit).
We drop a seed for Hummel (that’s to a 3)
We drop a seed for MSU and another drop for MN fiasco (That’s a 5 now)
We drop a seed for losing possibly one player- and injury to another- (So now we are at 6)
We drop a seed cuz of peer pressure and everybody else harping on how we suck without Hummel- (That’s a 7).
Man I hope that’s not the case- but since when has Purdue EVER gotten a break?
Um, no way.
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by carmen_fanzone on Mar 13, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
They might drop to 3 seed at very worst.
Even w/o Hummel, I think Purdue is a good team. This was just one of those days when they didn’t have “it”, and Minny did. Move on from this.
Granted, I don't know what down it is..
I have been
watching Purdue since Mount as a kid- this is by far the worst I have seen them. Totally, 100% inept. It would have been better had it not been on a national stage and so close to selection Sunday.
I actually think they played worse against MSU
It’s just that Spartans sucked in that game too where the Golden Gophers came to play today.
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Either way
I never thought I’d see such bad performances from a team with this much talent, even without Robbie. I think his leadership and the confidence the team had before the injury are sorely missed. Although in my heart, I want to believe that TMill is right and we get a 2 or 3 seed, I think it’s going to be a 4 or 5 seed due to today’s debacle. If it’s any lower than a 5, then they’re really screwing us. We need to figure out something this week or else it doesn’t really matter who we play or where we’re seeded.
Don't get it
What has Wisconsin done to deserve that? Last time I checked they just lost to Minnesota AND Illinois twice in their last 7 games.
by Bear with White Sox and a Hammer on Mar 14, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Defense
If they would have played defense in the first half, they could have kept it within striking distance even with the poor shooting. Since they decided to take the half off, it was over before it even started.
The only thing good about that first half is that it went by fast. I couldn’t believe how quickly it was over and we were sitting there with 11 points.
We must have Smooge get out of this shooting slump and must play 40 minutes of hard-nosed defense. No taking possessions off and especially not an entire half.
I don’t think the selection committee will screw us like most of the mediots want to do. Just have to ignore this crap, we should get the respect that’s deserved tomorrow night.
by Bear with White Sox and a Hammer on Mar 13, 2010 10:30 PM EST reply actions
7 seed is fair
Listen, if we played the entire year with this team, we most likely be a bubble team. I don’t think it’s unfair to say we would be on the same level as Minn. or Ill. Bubble teams that make the cut from big conferences usually go in as a 11 or 12 seed. On the other hand, if you look at our body of work and forget we don’t have Hummel, we deserve a 2 seed. so, split the difference and it averages a 7 seed. I also wouldn’t be shocked if we’re an underdog in the first round.
by Hummel's figurines on Mar 13, 2010 10:49 PM EST reply actions
we're not getting a seven seed
It’s just not going to happen. Everyone calm down
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by BoilerTMill on Mar 13, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, there's absolutely no way it's lower than a 5 at the worst.
And I’d be surprised if it’s lower than a 4.
But that doesn’t really change much. If this current team played the whole season, they might be in the 8-9 seed range or so. I don’t see how this team can possibly win more than two games, even with the high seed.
Hope WVU holds on
then at least we can say we dominated the Big East tourney champions this year. I agree we’d be a bubble team without him. I think we’ll be a 4 or 5 seed. I don’t think how we played with Hummel can be completely discounted, but clearly the loss of him does drop us in the seeding.
Biggest play from today
I wanted to see what others though, but I thought the biggest play was the charge on Grant at the 13:07 mark of the first half. it was only 9-4 at that point, neither team had scored in about three minutes, and it took a Ryne Smith 3 off the board. Grant missed two free throws about 90 seconds later when it was still 9-4 and everything seemed to snowball from there. With no charge and two made free throws, we’re tied about 10 minutes in 9-9 and we ahve more confidence even though we played poorly up until then.
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that's a good point
hadn’t thought about it, but that really did change the game. that 10-0 run there really iced it. However there’s nothing we can do about how we played today, just have to play better next week.
Forgot about that
That was a momentum changer.
I think this team is quite a bit better than they’ve shown without Robbie. People are always going to look at it as them missing Robbie, but I just don’t buy it. It’s still a good team, they’re just playing poorly. Moore has been pretty dreadful shooting the ball from about the exact time Robbie went down. The rest of that night he was off, and he’s been pretty off since. Even against Northwestern, putting up 28 points, he didn’t shoot well.
I think playing non-conference opponents will help.
by Bear with White Sox and a Hammer on Mar 14, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Excellent point.
In almost every blowout in any sport, there is a point where, had the losing team done something differently, the whole game changes. Once games get out of hand, the losing team needs to take risks to try to catch up. When those gambles don’t pay off, the winning team gets to protect or extend the lead.
Maybe too soon to take big gambles.
Which is easy to say in retrospect, of course. I think I’d argue that whenever one team just isn’t mentally in the game, as seemed the case with Purdue, eventually there’ll be a moment that seemed like a watershed/changer but really was the trigger for a mental collapse. I think it would’ve happened later anyway and the margin wouldn’t have been so huge. And I don’t mean just add 5 points to Purdue’s score. Maybe I’m just a fatalist.
I also think the nature of the gambles—JJ shooting from outside—contributed to such a harsh loss. Still, I don’t have any recommendations other than the various generic stuff the players have already heard.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 14, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
That call was bullshit
Westbrook starting falling backwards before Grant touched him and Westbrook wasn’t square to him.
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Kramer waits until contact
to fall down. Westbrook was falling down even if no one touched him. It was a bad flop that shouldn’t have been rewarded.
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Meh, Kramer was falling early on one against NU
But he’s usually a better actor than that. Westbrook’s was very obvious though.
Completely agree
I recall thinking the same thing shortly after it happened.
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A beatdown like this was bound to happen
without Hummel. Playing with guards that can’t shoot (Barlow, Jackson, Kramer) is a huge handicap. When JJ and Moore aren’t hitting we are really in trouble.
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This was bound to bite us sonner or later
But I dont think it is entirely due to the loss of Hummel since we have lost games when he was 100%. Our defense has always kept us in the game when our shooting was poor and the D just wasn’t there to save us this time. I do agree the other guards need to step and take some shots. When your hot hands aren’t hitting, whats there to lose.
Well, now we know it isn't just MSU
I wasn’t the only one thinking MSU was especially good on the boards so it was good to avoid them—Minnesota did the exact same thing.
This is good fodder for the players to remember how much of rebounding etc. is up to them and not to fear a brand name or to forgot to respect a non-brand name.
by Beavis Beefcake on Mar 14, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
What sucks
is up until yesterday- I looked at all the contests with bated breath- waiting for higher ranked or seeded teams to be upset- so we would move up a notch. This morning I looked at some score boards and didn’t give a rat’s ass. This game was the final twist of the dagger in my heart that speared me when Hummel got hurt.
I am dead to the NCAA now. unless of course we get to the sweet 16- and then there is after all the first beat down we can thump our chests with in the first round- as long as of course it isn’t us- and then a little more interest will be piqued when we somehow demolish the second round team. Hope will ring true again as we start our sweet 16 game and get crushed like the puny ants we are- and crawl back home to our little desk tops to revisit the “what coulda beens”.
Next year baby … :(
I can empathize
and next year we will be awesome! But I can’t give up on this year’s team yet. I’m still excited to see who we play and how we play in the tourney. I still think they’re more talented than they’ve played so far since the injury. After yesterday, it’s impossible to get my hopes as high as before, but I still have to keep the faith. I know the assasin is very capable of steeping up his game, yesterday was a pathetic aberration.
Next year may never come
If this year has taught you anything, it’s that next year may never come. No use quitting on this year for next year as the same thing could happen. It’s the Cubs fan mentality and it sucks.
This team isn’t bad without Hummel. If Hummel meant this much to the team, they wouldn’t have 27 wins right now. Yesterday was like the mid-season slump where they blew the second half lead to Ohio State and then had a stinker at Northwestern. That was WITH Robbie Hummel.
In other words, it happens. They lost focus. For whatever reason, yesterday they quit. Minnesota just happened to shoot lights out and before you knew it the game was out of hand. They will bounce back, they’ve shown they can bounce back. And it’s better that it happened this Saturday and not next Saturday.
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