Boilermakers never give up
I was going to go with the following headline:
Time of death: 9:07pm ET on 2/24/2010
I was then going to list the explosion of posts on the open thread last night when Robbie went down.
I won't do it though. We've come to freaking far through four months to quit now, dammit. Maybe it is the Danny Hope attitude carrying over from football to basketball. Yes, this makes getting to the Final Four more difficult, but it is not impossible. If George Mason can make a Final Four by taking out three of college basketball's best teams of the last decade we can do it with a much easier path.
All it takes is one game, at home against Michigan State on Sunday with the crowd lifting them, to all but secure the outright Big Ten crown and gain confidence. Win that, and we should still beat Indiana and Penn State. Going into the Big Ten Tournament I still think we have a chance to get a #1 seed. We have some tough games left with that tournament. I think if we at least make it to the weekend and play well in doing so we can prove to the selection committee that all is not lost. If we can find a away to win these last three regular season games we're still very much alive for a number 1 seed because we then prove we can play without Robbie.
This is a little different from Kenyon Martin's injury 10 years ago. That one happened in the C-USA tournament and Cincinnati had no games to gel together without him. We still have a chance to prove ourselves and we have a deeper team than that Cincinnati team. We're still going to get a high enough seed that we will be favored to make the Sweet 16. Once there, you can't really project anything because upsets always happen.
So what is our projected lineup? Obviously JJ just saw his minutes get extended. Patrick Bade absolutely needs to step up, gain some confidence, and play better because we need him right now. There is the temptation to pull the redshirt off of Sandi Marcius. I am not saying it will happen. No one knows how well he would play if thrown in there, but now that we are desperately short in the frontcourt I would think the temptation is there.
The biggest loss, as I said this morning, comes from all the little things that Robbie does. KG, Kramer, and Hart can help with the scoring. More will be expected of E'Twaun and JJ. Hart has shown some tenacity as far as rebounding on the offensive end. Kramer can take over for the leadership and his tenacity last night showed he can double somewhat as a post presence, but I don't think you can truly replace Robbie. It's going to take a total team effort to do so.
JaJuan Johnson - Please stay out of foul trouble. Rebound like your life depends on it.
E'Twaun Moore - We need you to do even more scoring. I am talking 25 a night if at all possible.
Keaton Grant - Please keep finding your shot and your confidence. We need you as a three-point shooter more than ever.
Patrick Bade and D.J. Byrd - Run, Rebound, and defend. One of you has to take Robbie's scrappy mentality and adapt it to your own game. We don't even need you to score much. We just need the scrappy little things without fouls.
Sandi Marcius - If he does play (and that is a huge if) he needs to just scrap near the basket, avoid fouls, and rebound.
Ryne Smith and Mark Wohlford - Don't be afraid to shoot if you're open.
Lewis Jackson - Please keep penetrating and dishing. You saved our ass with this last night. Keep it up.
Chris Kramer - You're the leader of this team. Keep everyone together mentally and don't give up. We're not dead until we have fewer points than the other team and the clock reads 0:00. If anyone can fill the little things role single-handedly, it is Kramer.
Kelsey Barlow - You're a player that can drive and create your own shot. We need you to keep that up. You can be scoring threat if you want to. Keep cutting to the basket and looking for that entry pass.
Last night we learned on the fly how we're going to win games without Robbie. We're going to win by getting even tighter defensively, hitting some big shots, and still wearing opposing teams down. We have to keep moving without the basketball, and that means everyone. What makes Robbie so good is that he does this. He doesn't go to the corner and wait for the ball to come to him like Ryne Smith. It's called a motion offense for a reason. It's not the, "stand here until I get the ball, then pump fake if I don't have an open look" offense. As long as we're moving and getting drives to the basket it prevents teams from clamping down on JJ and making us rely on perimeter jump shots.It doesn't have to be pretty. All we have to do is the same as last night: make sure we have one more point than the other team.
We have, at minimum, four games to play before the NCAA Tournament. In those four games we can decide if we're going to learn and adapt or crawl within ourselves. We cannot quit. We must never quit. There is absolutely no rule that states we cannot continue to win games just because one player is hurt. We need to just find ways to win and not give up. Remember: You won last night without Robbie. You can do it again. The choice is yours, gentlemen.
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Did it last year
Played with him either out completely, or at a percentage of full strength for most of the year last year. KG will step up and we will be fine. It’s hard to be this close to the ultimate goal though, and have something like this happen. Really lets the wind out of the sails.
Thanks for writing this TMill
I’m not sure if I’m ready for it yet though. I’m still in the denial/anger/bargaining phase of this.
The one good thing, the (lack of) size of MSU/Penn State and IU shouldn’t hurt us too much these next few games. Hopefully we can use these to figure out a rotation that works.
If I can just get them to depressed then I've done my job
Lord, beer me strength.
by doublegoldandblack on Feb 25, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Marcius
DO you think Painter will take the shirt off? So many decisions have to be made in order to match the productivity (REBOUNDING) of Hummel.
Just win the Big Ten Title!
That’s the most important thing anyways (to me). I don’t care what happens in the postseason, just finish the job and win the league.
Ever Grateful. Ever True.
Amen...
I’d be happy to accomplish that at this point. And I think we will.
But, in saying that, we’re going to have an awfully tough time rebounding against any team in either tourney. We’re going to have to hope we get hot with the 3ball every game. Or that JJ and E’twaun take over games to the tune of 30+ points.
Bade with extra PT is going to be very painful to watch.
I’d like to wear the blackandgold-colored glasses, but with Robbie out, we’re a completely different ballclub.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Feb 25, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
I feel so bad for Kramer and KG
And Rob too of course, but this was their last chance.
It’s hard to imagine that anybody is taking this harder than me, but I’m sure the players are.
by rcpratt on Feb 25, 2010 1:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This is their moment
To really step it up and take control of this team.
Kramer has obviously been been a leader for a while on the defensive end. Painter has been telling him all year that he needs to become more of an offensive threat. Now would be the time…
In the past 3 games KG has finally started to play like he did 2 years ago. Now he needs to take it to the next level. Last year he was still coming off of injury, and this year has been timid, living the the shadow of the of the Big Three. Again, now is the time that he needs to step out, play like a senior and take the reigns. Last night’s clutch shooting was a good start.
Barlow, I think, is also on the verge of a major breakthrough. He’s got the talent, and has learned a lot during the regular season. Hopefully he can at least contribute, and maybe become that difference maker. He just has the look of a guy who just has to make that last little connection and all of the sudden he’ll explode.
BTFU!
Signed up just to...
…say that I had to stifle a laugh at work for this. Most players pump fake to get a guy in the air and do something. Smith fakes and then passes it back around the arc regardless of what the defense does.
It was a great win last night
Hummel came back out and probably calmed the team down by being around. Looks like the last he’ll do for a while. But it was a big thing. The other players showed something special last night too. They could have done pretty well and kept it close, but they had just enough.
In many ways, this was a bigger win emotionally than the 95-94 shootout at Michigan in ‘94, because the team didn’t know how much they had to play for. They stuck in there and did it, somehow. That 18-0 run would be like a 28-0 run in the Michigan game.
I remember wondering how Purdue would handle a home game vs MSU with someone injured. I really didn’t want to find out. The stats say we’ll have a ton of trouble replacing Hummel. We know there’s a lot of non-stat stuff that can’t be replaced. But this would make winning Saturday absolutely wonderful in a way a full-strength win could never be. People can worry about interior matchups, less ways to attack a zone or a weakened frontline down the road in the NCAAs later.
by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 25, 2010 1:54 PM EST reply actions
Awful.
I was 100% ready for MSU to get another shot at beating Purdue but not like this. Hummel is someone the league can be proud of and Purdue is a great representative to make a deep tourney run.
Sunday has lost some luster even for a Spartan.
FYI, I don’t think any reasonable MSU fan has called this a W now. Still your game and championship to lose.
Its nice
to see fans from all teams on SBNation that have class. I’ve given up on reading/posting on ESPN boards because everyone on there is trolling, flaming, and just plain ignorant.
As a reasonable fan of any team one would think that you’d like to play and beat a team when they are at their best. Its refreshing to see that there are at least a few other people out there who don’t take joy in another team’s loss.
BTFU!
Absolutely
As you said, everyone should want to beat the best at their best and be the strongest conference we can be. Short of toppling the Boilermakers, my sense of the pulse of Michigan State fans is that if it isn’t going to be us in the Final Four the next best thing is Purdue representing.
So yeah, don’t give up. Except on Sunday.
Same back.
Hummel’s injury probably just made a lot of Purdue fans stop-and-think, and you and fans all around the big ten saying good things helps lessen the disappointment.
It felt good to see Michigan State make that run last year, and while all fans have a twinge of what-iffing when our conference rivals do well yet again (like last year!) we remember what’s important & I suspect splitting with the national runners up had to be a confidence booster. Michigan State looking good means Purdue looks good, and I think the sensible fans have respect for the other program.
I don’t know what to say about this weekend’s game other than I trust this Purdue team to keep their heads up and not make excuses before and after the game. Should MSU get a road win, hopefully it’ll help move them up a seed and give them confidence in the Big Dance. Though I would prefer Purdue give MSU a lesson than a seed boost.
by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 25, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I think we got our lesson
“Not showing up for the first half of a home game against the league’s best team hurts something fierce.” Heard loud and clear.
Never give up learning! Ever!
He says, because he cares.
by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 26, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Kramer and KG
This is their time. 4 years lead up to this point. They have been tested time and time again this season and over the past several years. Its time for them to make their mark on history and on this school. I look forward to looking back to this point this time next year.
P. S. If anyone has any of those Jerry Rice magic beans that helped him recover from his torn ACL in 3 1/2 months, please overnight them to Robbie. Just make sure not to include the ones that cause a fractured kneecap on the game back.
Nothing is Over!
Over? Did you say ‘over’? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!…What the f—k happened to the Boilers I used to know? Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts, huh? ‘Ooh, we’re afraid to go with you, Bluto, we might get in trouble.’ Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I’m not gonna take this. Wormer, he’s a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer..
See you in Indy. We’ll be entering through the back door now.
Phelps, dead!
Hightower, dead!
Loved this. I actually heard the music from Animal House playing in my head louder and louder as I kept reading.
There's no easy way
to get around this injury. Obviously, we need to keep fighting ahead, and it’s a good sign that Grant is stepping up. I believe we will find a way to come together and get more production out of the rest of our players now. At the same time, however, you cant replace Hummel, especially the intangibles as TMill pointed out. Getting a high seed will help. At least, we’re playing with the house’s money now. Go Boilers!
Experts can be Wrong
Sorry for the bad movie monologue. (trying to laugh, not cry)
I am certain that 99 out of 100 basketball experts crossed us off the “Indy Possibles” list, the second Hummel grabbed at his knee. I am also certain that 90+ of those same experts would have given us no chance of winning last night after we: gave up 19 straight points, went 10 minutes without scoring, and were down by 8 points with 9 min to go.
Never underestimate Chris Kramer’s will to win (remember vs. Florida in 2007 NCAA’s?) and Keaton Grant is playing like a man who returned from the dead. We haven’t seen JJ and E’Twaun play their best basketball in Boiler uniforms yet. Let’s hope we see it in the next 3 weeks.
The one lasting trademark that Coach Keady left on the program, is that Purdue Basketball teams… never give up.
CUT HIS F#$@*^G HEAD OFF!!
Sorry, I got caught up in the moment.
Lord, beer me strength.
by doublegoldandblack on Feb 25, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I GOT ONE THING TO SAY
BOILER THE FUCK UP
by Delaware Boiler on Feb 25, 2010 4:20 PM EST reply actions
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While we're on the subject of cheesy movie speeches...
Good afternoon. In less than a month, basketball players from Purdue will be joining others from around the nation. And they will be playing the biggest games in the history of Boiler Nation. …Boiler Nation. Those words should have new meaning for all of us today. We can’t be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it’s fate that the Final Four is in Indianapolis, and Purdue will be playing for the pride of Indiana. Not the Hoosiers, or the Irish, or the Bulldogs… the Boilers. They are playing for our right to play hard-nosed basketball. Playing to do it the right way. And should they win the day, Indianapolis will no longer be known as a Hoosier city, but as the city where the Boilers declared in one voice: “We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We’re going to live on! We’re going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day!”
Love the Cheese
Nothing has changed – Everything has changed
The most important thing is to win our next game against Michigan State. Obviously we won’t be the same team, but that doesn’t mean we can’t find a different way to win.
Painter did not strike me last night, as a coach that was ready to give up on the season, though he had to know there was a strong chance that Hummel was done until next year.
A little over a month ago, none of us had seen anything positive from John Hart; now he is a key part of the team. Lewis Jackson had yet to play a minute, and now he looks ready to play 25+ per game (his passes led to the last two Boilers buckets vs. Minn). Keaton Grant was a lost cause, last night he was money.
As good as Robbie is, he is not Evan Turner (no one calls Diebler, Buford & Turner- the “Big 3”).
I am glad that Coach Painter doesn’t seem as ready to throw in the towel as some Boiler fans, and every “expert.” Please don’t try to convince Chris Kramer we cannot possibly beat Michigan State on Sunday. He won’t believe you.
Just keep “winning the next one.”
by Boilers2Indy on Feb 25, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Guys coming from a Tennessee fan
I am really sorry for you guys and for Hummel. Do not let everybody tell you that your season is over though. We were in the same situation after January 1st (though for a more unfortunate reason). We lost 4 of our top 8 scorers, then went out and beat Kansas one game later. I was hoping and still am hoping for a possible rematch of our pre-Thanksgiving game down in the Virgin Islands. You guys beat us that night without a huge game from Hummel, and you can beat other good teams without him as well. Just keep your head up and do not worry about what the “experts” at ESPN tell you.
It's simple Cubs in the spring and summer, Vols in the fall and winter.
Thank you very much
I have been thinking the same thing. We’re still a very good, very dangerous team that has done more than enough to still warrant a high seed. I think it is big that we have at least four games to prove we can play without him.
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Tennesse - Amazing!
Amazing what Pearl has done with half a team. Excuses are always available, but that clearly is not his style.
Good luck to the Vols against Kentucky.
Why do I invest this much of my life into sports.
Something like this always happens and it never works out. FML.
I don’t think I have ever been this emo before.
Boiler Up, with apologies to Roy Johnson
They are plain words those two. You could write them on your thumbnail or sweep them across this suddenly darkening sky. But they are more than words, they are a ray of light. So when you speak them, speak them firmly, with the desire of Chris Kramer. Speak them hungrily, with the ferocity of Brian Cardinal. Speak them humbly, with the resolve of John Wooden. BOILER UP!!
BOILERUP
Man, its hard being a Purdue faithful………..
This is the “Orton Fumble” of our beloved basketball program. The absolute worst thing that could have happened, happened. WTF?????/
I just hope these guys can pull together and scratch out a BT Title. I don’t care about the NCAA right now….just want the banner. They all have worked so hard for it and deserve it, just have to finish strong.
BOILER UP! Hail Purdue-and get better Robbie
Good Luck Robbie
Good Luck to Robbie on his surgery and rehab. I envision him coming back better than ever.
Hey guys
Sorry to hear about Hummel. Good luck the rest of the season from a Duck fan.
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
Thanks Matt,
You Duck fans are alright.
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E Moore
I think he was shocked to see this injury more than anybody else. I think he felt the pressure rise and was like “not again”. I think he liked not having so much pressure on him and enjoyed quietly scoring in double figures every game. You could tell he felt the pressure on the 3-point play where he barely hit the rim on his free throw miss. You are our scoring leader, in my opinion our main guy now. The spotlight is on you and I know he can do it…deep breaths E.
I'm kind of worried about E'Twaun or JJ leaving now
Because they might be so frustrated with the injuries. Hopefully not though.
More of Moore
Listened to a podcast (Gottliebs) about a week ago (after MSU), and some guy came on to spend about 5 minutes talking up E’Twaun; saying he was the biggest “difference maker” on any of the teams below KY or Kansas. He didn’t even mention Robbie. It kind of shocked me at the time. He said Moore is one of the few players who can “take over a game.” Let’s hope he takes over on Sunday.
As for leaving, if E’Twaun or JJ has the right opportunity (getting picked in 1st rd), they owe to their future to go, I just don’t see it. Robbie’s injury proved you never know what the future holds.















