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The Big Ten title now goes through West Lafayette

Winning in Bloomington... Check!

Winning in East Lansing... Check!

Winning in Columbus... Check!

Who knew that we would win at those places, but we would lose in Evanston this year? This was a statement win in a season full of statement wins. This team continues to go in and get wins in places that have been very hard for us to play in lately, all while playing together as a team that is greater than the sum of its parts. Now add to that the fact we won all three of those in a four game stretch. I think that means we have earned Saturday's home game against Illinois.

You readers have been wonderful about playing off of a typo. I think it was against Indiana, but someone mentioned that we exercised (sic) the demons of Assembly Hall. Since then, you all have been about sending demons to the gym to exercise them because we did it at the Breslin Center and the Schottenstein Center. To doublegoldandblack, who asked what streaks we need to end next so we can warm up the treadmill, I can see three:

14 years since a Big Ten Regular Season title

30 years since a Final Four

78 years since a National Championship.

Let's do this.

Star-divide

Positives from the second Ohio State game:

JaJuan Johnson - He played like a man today. Scratch that, he played like several men. Dallas Lauderdale was reduced to nothing by JJ's versatility. If we needed a basket, we went to JJ. The play of the game may have been right before halftime. On a missed shot Evan Turner waited for the rebound. JJ came in, grabbed it, put it back in, and was fouled for a huge 3-point play. That's how a man goes to work. If this is the JJ we're getting the rest of the season we will be playing for a very long time.

Keaton Grant - We don't win if Keaton Grant does not play like he did tonight. Period. When Robbie was virtually a non-factor all night, Keaton played his best game of the season. He tied his season high for points, though it was previously against SIU-Edwardsville, so there is a slight difference in competition. I knew he had a game like this in him. It was about time he delivered. If he can keep it up, we just got better as a team.

Chris Kramer - Once again, we needed a Kramer Moment at the end of a game and got it. This was almost exactly like the Indiana game. I am surprised that Ohio State didn't call a timeout some time during the last possession, but I won't argue the point. As usual, Kramer had a couple of big baskets and one absolutely huge defensive play. I am wondering why he kept losing the dribble on drives though. He had at least three possessions where he had an easy layup, but lost the dribble on the drive.

Robbie Hummel - You may ask why he is mentioned here when he had a season low game in scoring. All four points were huge though, keeping his trend of doing all the little things quietly. He had a night where he didn't do much statistically, but then you look deeper and see he was absolutely huge in each spot he contributed. Maybe this is what Hutchens meant by calling him a role player.

Defense - One of the biggest keys to tonight's game was bench play. Ohio State only went one player into its bench for nine minutes. Kyle Madsen didn't even take a shot, either. When they had the ball down only two for consecutive possessions they missed two jumpers, possibly as a result of tired legs. We made them work for everything defensively. That wore them down to where their jumpers did not have the same lift in the last five minutes. In reality, their only offense tonight was "give the ball to Turner and let him create." It worked, but not well enough.

Sharing the basketball - 15 assists on 24 field goals. Most were on great passes where we made it a point to find the open man for an easier shot. E'Twaun had five of these assists as he added a quiet 15 points. It should also be mentioned E'Twaun had another dagger of a 3-pointer early in the second half when they left him open.

Rebounding - Offensive rebounds were huge for Ohio State in the first game. Turner was especially dangerous off the offensive glass in that one, but tonight we won the rebounding battle overall and held them to four second chances.

The First half - That's two straight games where our first half start has been absolutely critical on the road. We only have to do it two more times before the rest of the season is home games or neutral courts. If we keep it up, there's also a good chance we can put the black jerseys away for the year too, if you catch my drift.

Negatives from the second Ohio State game:

Turnovers - If we had taken care of the ball tonight, things would have been a lot better. I credit Ohio State though for pressuring the ball and forcing us into many of those 16 turnovers. If they had been able to hit a few more shots once they got the lead to two it would have been really interesting. This is a continuing theme in road games for us. The home team gets it close, but then goes cold as we hit big shot after big shot.

Defending Evan Turner - The kid is a talent. Now, let's never play him again.

Jon Diebler - The wrist was fine on that last shot. He had a good look. We're lucky he missed.

Kelsey Barlow - The freshman regressed slightly after several good games, so this is only a small negative. He started becoming a liability in the second half, so we simply went to someone else. He will learn from games like this.

Up next:

Unless we lose at a struggling Minnesota team next week, the Big Ten title will go through West Lafayette. I know I am discounting the regular season finale at Penn State, but I doubt anyone seriously thinks we will lose that game. That includes Penn State fans. I know anything can happen though, so let's not get too ahead of ourselves.

It's hard not to get excited about the future though, and we can get even more excited with each passing win. You have to like our chances for a number one seed if we can win the conference regular season crown. Right now we are the only team in the country with four wins over top 10 teams. Three of those wins have come away from Mackey Arena as well. We can still add yet another one if Michigan State gets back into the top 10 in the next 10 days.

We still have to look at these next five games one by one, because looking ahead can be dangerous. Illinois is next, and they are more than capable of beating us in Mackey Arena. They did a year ago to start the conference season, digging us a nice hole before the race even started. As great as this win was, it means nothing if we lose the next game. All we did tonight was clinch a winning record in Big Ten play.

Still, the special season is still alive. It has been a hell of a ride so far and I cannot wait to see what is next.

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I hate to be negative about anything right now. But I was listening to the OK-CO halftime show and they spent a little time talking about the PU-OSU. Jay W said he had a problem with Diebler taking the last shot…and that Evan Turner should have had the ball at the end of the game. Then he talked about Evan Turners stats vs the rest of OSU’s team’s stats. Not one word about Purdue, the victory or hard nose defense or JJ. This is why I hate ESPN. Jay Williams has no respect for Purdue and if I can recall was praising Diebler for his lights out shooting against ILL last week. Very, very inconsistent analyzing from ESPN douches.

by FSBoiler on Feb 17, 2010 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

Diebler shoots 44% and Turner 25% anyways. He has no clue.

by rcpratt on Feb 17, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Let the be inconsistent

After a game like that, what Jay Williams has to say couldn’t matter less. Right now, we are in the driver’s seat.

The networks will always gravitate towards the stars. That’s fine. Turner is an incredible player, can scare me to death an I never want to see him again. If we take care of business Saturday we’ll be at least #3 next week and be in position to “put away the black jerseys” as TMill so eloquently put it.

by dbaltman on Feb 17, 2010 10:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Jay Williams needs a rectal cranialectomy

Never read JWill stuff or listen to his TV rants. In the latest ESPN PowerRankings he and Fraschilla are the only ones who still have West Virginia ranked ahead of Da Boilers. I understand the use of the RPI to compare teams who haven’t met but do you remain an RPIdiot in the face of head-to-head beatdowns??

by VegasBoiler on Feb 18, 2010 3:20 AM EST up reply actions  

ESPN bias

It used frusturate me so much the only channel i watch (minus the BTN for Boilermaker games) doesn’t give any credit to the #4 team in the nation, but then i decided to look at it as a positive. Just becuase Purdue gets overlooked by ESPN analysts (that work for the Big East, ACC, New York Yankess, and Boston Red Sox) that doesn’t mean the Tournament Committee will do the same. I don’t necessarily think it is a bad thing all the eyes in the nation aren’t on West Lafayette… well at least not until the Final Four.

by BoilerUP2256 on Feb 18, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I Agree

If you checked out ESPN’s preview of the game, you would have thought OSU was the 4th best team in the country. The only time I saw Purdue referenced was when they referred to Painter talking about how good Turner was. Let’s hope this game helps us get some respect.

Now let’s take of the Illini – BTFU

by BoilerUp! on Feb 17, 2010 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

Northwestern

They effectively said they do not want to go to the tournament by losing at home tonight.

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by BoilerTMill on Feb 17, 2010 10:25 PM EST reply actions  

The Iowa game did that already

NU can’t beat PSU at Welsh Ryan, 7 of the last 8 have gone the Lions’ way there.

by BoilerPhil on Feb 17, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know how they got this far.

We were clearly better than them(and we may be ridiculously unlucky according to KenPom, but still). Also, Carmody kept them in the 1-3-1 which was KILLING them. Just like he did against Iowa.

"...there'll be some woman, maybe 45 or 50, she'll come up and give me a hug, and I'll give my wife a wink: See? I'm not that old." - Joe Paterno

by ReadingRambler on Feb 17, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He changed D's against Purdue

2009 @Purdue. It worked. Why not Penn State? The Lions were on fire.

I’m still a bit sore about the “overrated” chant and rushing the floor when NU beat Purdue, so maybe it’s a bit of karma. But I wouldn’t be surprised for Coble/Ryan et al to work hard, learn from the disappointments, and close what they need to.

Just noticed PSU’s kenpom luck was 346th/347(ouch!) & I think there was a kenpom.com article about unlucky teams doing well next year. But that was the sort of game Northwestern will need to win next year to be an NCAA team. And PSU ripped them up on offense. I really didn’t want to see them go winless.

by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 18, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

New stat:

Saw this on BTN tonight: Purdue is just the second team in Big Ten history to win at Michigan State, Ohio State, Indiana, and Illinois in the same season. The other: 1976-77 Minnesota

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by BoilerTMill on Feb 17, 2010 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

And

That Minnesota team had those wins vacated.

by dbaltman on Feb 17, 2010 10:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Only 6 other teams could

Northwestern, Wisconsin (bad til the 90s,) Michigan, Penn State (not around til the 90s,) Iowa, Minnesota.

These teams had some good years but maybe we need to see who of this group of 5 won at the other 4 in one year. Otherwise it’s like one of those “2200 hits, 1800 RBIs” etc stats comparing what a player is just better than. Impressive, but a bit skewed for “all time” stats.

by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 18, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

do home teams not count?

for instance, msu winning at home didn’t count as a win because it wasn’t an away game? not sure how that works. seems like the ’76 iu team had to have won at every location.

by jmboiler on Feb 18, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Since Indiana can’t really win road games at Indiana, they’re sort of disqualified from this award. Sort of like how Purdue’s ’84 FB team was the first to beat OSU, Michigan and Notre Dame. Not many other teams had that schedule.

by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 18, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

great line there at the end...

“all this win guarantees us is a winning record in big10 play”

so true. there’s a LONG way to go, and we should be confident that matty p will have this team up and ready for the illini on saturday. that game now has me really scared as it could be a let-down game after this huge win.

we haven’t won anything but a game at OSU. that’s it, nothing more

by boilerXmen4116 on Feb 17, 2010 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

I also want to mention my opinion that Ted Valentine sucks so bad.

"...there'll be some woman, maybe 45 or 50, she'll come up and give me a hug, and I'll give my wife a wink: See? I'm not that old." - Joe Paterno

by ReadingRambler on Feb 17, 2010 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

Yep

That block call on JJ was horrible, at least from the angle the BTN offered.

by Bulldogsmoltz31 on Feb 18, 2010 3:33 AM EST up reply actions  

The LewJack call was even worse

LewJack set, arms straight up, does not move a muscle, and Evan Turner leans into him and gets the foul called. Funny, I was watching ESPN this morning and they showed that played as one of the highlights, and were just swooning over Evan Turner. I find it funny that they wanted Turner to take that last shot, when DIebler got the shot that OSU wanted, just didn’t make it. Idiots…

by triallen on Feb 18, 2010 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Not Square

That’s the only thing I can think of on that play, JJ was set but not square to Turner, but Turner was A) leading with his shoulder and B) on the floor when the contact happened.

Two blown calls worse than that were on Lauderdale blocks. First he gets all arm on a JJ turn around, then on KG’s HUGE drive and layup late in the second Lauderdale clocked him in the head. Luckily Keaton made it and pushed the lead from 4 back to 6.

by BoilerPhil on Feb 18, 2010 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

There's still some games left

and I still advocate the one game at a time approach, but it’s hard not to get excited after a win like this! That was a very good Ohio State team so I think if we beat Illinois on Saturday we will get some love from even the Big East honks and ESPN. I just enjoy winning whether we get respect or not. If you would’ve told me Hummel would have 35 and we’d lost to tOSU at home and he’d have only 4 and we’d beat tOSU on the road, I’d have never believed it. We’re looking very good right now, let’s keep it up!

by boilerg on Feb 18, 2010 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

columbus

we traveled to columbus for the game last night. nice arena but it was only about 3/4 full and they had bogo tix even. for a game of that magnitude, it’s hard to comprehend the lack of support. also the student sections were small. seemed like half the size of the paint crew. the crowd did get loud in the 2nd half but nothing like when the roof is blowin off mackey. it was a thrill to shout out a big ‘boiler up’ to the fellow pu fans. great game!

by jmboiler on Feb 18, 2010 8:09 AM EST reply actions  

I heard a lot of complaining about the early start time

The official attendance on ESPN puts it at 19,049 (capacity of 19,200) so maybe they gave every single ticket purchase credit for 2. Either way, it’s sad that a city so dedicated to one school can’t manage to sell out a game between top 10 teams for a share of the Big Ten lead, even when they give away tickets. I don’t care if they’re playing at 3am, that’s a game you don’t want to miss.

 

Lord, beer me strength.

by doublegoldandblack on Feb 18, 2010 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Pat Forde agrees
A late-arriving, lackadaisical crowd hasn’t helped Ohio State create much homecourt atmosphere or generated any significant animosity toward the Boilers. The vibe at Purdue home games is roughly 400 times more boisterous

Lord, beer me strength.

by doublegoldandblack on Feb 18, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

If I were a potential OSU recruit

I would be put-off by the lack of support for the crowd, and feel cheated by playing for a fan base that clearly favors football above all else. If you can’t fill the area and get amped up for your biggest game of the year, when a championship is on the line, then why should the team? Maybe if I’m a one-and-done player I don’t care, and that seems to be the type of kid Matta goes after though.

I think there’s something to be said for loyalty that goes both ways. Fans being loyal to their team, and the players having a sense of loyalty to their school and fan base. Seems to me like Painter is getting those types of recruits, and its a good thing. They may not be freshman phenoms, but phenoms seem to have the wrong attitude anyway.

BTFU!

by BoilerAdam on Feb 18, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Value City is huge.

This is what happens when you have way too much football money and decide you need a huge basketball arena. No reason for it to be that big. Macke about 2/3 the size of Value City — and a much more intimidating environment.

by cjsBoiler on Feb 18, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen some games on the BT's Greatest Games from their old St John Arena.

I’d assume they can’t go back now (although they still usually play a game or two there IIRC) due to the financial situation involved in their current arena, but you’re right: whereas St John Arena was very boisterous, Value City to me is almost like a more full Bryce Jordan Center.

Or maybe they’re just a little bandwagon about basketball. Who knows.

"...there'll be some woman, maybe 45 or 50, she'll come up and give me a hug, and I'll give my wife a wink: See? I'm not that old." - Joe Paterno

by ReadingRambler on Feb 19, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

First sellout of the year

They had to give away tickets to students to sell out their first game of the year — for a top 10 matchup. pathetic.

http://www.thelantern.com/sports/no-deja-vu-second-half-comeback-fails-for-osu-1.1163498

by cjsBoiler on Feb 18, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Pardon me...but I think I'll drive the rest of the way...

Is it just me or was Kramer’s block on Buford pretty much the epitome of the season so far? It was phenomenal.

by EREX21 on Feb 18, 2010 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

I think that was the Kramer Moment of all Kramer Moments

The elevation, the timing, the closing speed. It was unreal.

Lord, beer me strength.

by doublegoldandblack on Feb 18, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Kenpom number crunching expected wins

Purdue 14.13
MSU 13.47
Wisconsin 13.15
OSU 13.03
Illinois 10.64

It’s hard not to get excited. I imagine the team knows better than to read into just plain numbers, which are press clippings without emotions, and there are no gimmes ahead. But it gives some credence to Purdue not just controlling their destiny but having some room for error. I know they’ll be working to minimize that error.

by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 18, 2010 12:23 PM EST reply actions  

No more complaining about respect

They’re ranked #4 in both polls. Take care of business and the #1 seed is assured. Some blowhard on ESPN does not represent the full college BB community – coaches and writers recognize the quality of this team and ran them right back up in the rankings after the mid-season skid.

by boilerdan on Feb 18, 2010 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

Second half thoughts

The thing that worries me the most about this team is their reluctance to really penetrate the ball during the 2nd half of games. It happened last night (in addition to some really homer zebra calls), but we seemed to settle for long jump shots way too often, letting OSU back into the ball game. The same thing happened versus OSU the first time and at MSU. We were lucky to get out of there with a win — OSU simply outplayed us in the 2nd half.

Also, why couldn’t we inbound the ball last night? I counted at least 3 botched inbounds attempts — that’s 3 more possessions to really pound the ball to JJ, who was amazing last night.

by cjsBoiler on Feb 18, 2010 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

go inside

would be nice if when we had those nice leads that instead of running the clock down to nothing and jacking up any shot, we would go inside and get a bucket and/or foul. we could put teams away from the foul line with our good shooting. as it is now, no lead is safe.

by jmboiler on Feb 18, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

We had a chance last night

to put them away from the line but we missed the front ends of one and ones twice. I get so frustrated with how we cannot hold onto double digit leads in the second half, unless we’re up by thirty early in the second, the game is still in question with this team. I also agree that a D-1 team shouldn’t have this much repeated difficulty getting the ball inbounds. Overall though, getting this win with such a small contribution from the ostrich, shows how good this team is, and has the opportunity to be.

by droid on Feb 18, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

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