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Just Burn The Tape

Really, that's all we can do with this game. I'm already working on the game wrap as the fourth quarter and we've accomplished less than nothing. You felt it from the first "uh-oh" moment, when Waynelle Gravesande had a blocker shoved into him (apparently a legal play, unlike tripping over the 40 yard line which Michigan did last year) resulting in a fumbled punt. Had that play not happened, we would have been down seven with the ball in good field position after a big stop. Instead, the Buckeyes had new life, drove down, and scored.

It was over after that.

This was an embarrassment on the level with last year's trip to Madison, yet I would not be surprised if Purdue pulled off a win in Champaign next week. It seems like Hope's teams are establishing a pattern of playing a stinker against a MAC team each year and getting embarrassed on the road in one conference game, yet looking night and day better in the following games.

I didn't expect to win today. I thought it was a possibility with a banged up Ohio State defense and much of the same defensive line that hassled Terrelle Pryor all game last year. I thought we would at least be competitive. Instead, we had guys out of position and safeties that might as well have not been on the field at all for all the good they did. I don't understand how Pryor can roll out and it looks like we have 7 guys on defense, but when Rob Henry rolled it looked like Ohio State had 15. This is the first time our secondary has been totally exposed, and it was by a guy that is not a good quarterback. Yes, he threw for about 300 yards in the first half, but any quarterback can make throws to receivers with no one near them.

Star-divide

Offensively we were shoved around by a defense that was bigger, stronger, and faster. There is no other way to say it. Keith Carlos and Rob Henry couldn't get the read option going when their defensive line was blowing through the middle on every play. Both Henry and Sean Robinson barely had any time to throw, and when Henry did roll out his receivers weren't open. Al-Terek McBurse is starting to border on being a bust. It's easy to shut down an offense that way.

The positives are very few. Cody Webster had a good game punting for a 45 yard average with three inside the 20, but it did little with a tired defense that let receivers wander 15 yards down field with impunity. Ricardo Allen, Will Lucas, and Ryan Kerrigan played with some fire. I liked the work Robert Maci did in the third quarter, but again, one or two guys making a handful of plays against Ohio State isn't enough.

We can't take anything away from this. We need to just burn the tape and readjust for next week in a critical game against Illinois. We bounced back after a similar loss last year in Madison, so we can do it again. We don't know how bad Henry's finger injury is, so we may have to do it with a true freshman quarterback. They aren't nearly as unbeatable as Ohio State though.

Once again, it is up to the coaching staff to turn this thing around. It has had its good moments and bad moments over the first 19 games of Danny Hope's tenure. The redshirts of Gabe Holmes and Reggie Pegram were burned today, so they are more players we can use if they are willing to make a difference. I can't help but think you can't hide from a loss like this, however. I am not ready to join the "Fire Hope" bandwagon, but a game like this certainly raises a lot of questions.

There is no question Ohio State is better than us. They were better than us last year though and we rose tot he challenge. Today we were just dominated in a fashion few expected.

For now, we just need to get one more win before the Indiana game. This season is about improvement, and has been for some time. Get the two wins you need and get to a bowl game. That is still very possible.

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Did Hope even try to prepare for this game?

Sure didn’t look like it. We ran the same play on 3 consecutive third downs, with the same drive-killing result.

There need to be more than just questions raised about this coaching staff. Even our wins haven’t been particularly well played or well coached. Time for Burke to turn up the heat.

by Mattdsm on Oct 23, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck

I just tuned in. Fuck is all I can say. Down for the count in Texas-

Fuck-

Zero points? Fuck…

Oh I’m sorry- 49 points scored against us? Fuck…

I am so glad this wasn’t on TV- I got up this morning cut the yard- puked a bunch of times as I mowed over some really big dog turds- so all I can say is

FUCK!!!!

by teutonic13 on Oct 23, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

ATM a bust?

Painfully it seems your honest observation is correct. I was hoping the injury excuse was legitimate. I’ve since looked at a couple of ATM’s HS game films and I saw a vertical runner that was hesitant to hit the hole. I also saw a runner that could be Eric Dickerson like (big, fast and strong looking) but Dickerson was a hole pounding beast! ATM runs shy as if he is afraid to hit or be hit. Turn him loose on a mid major and reclaim the scholarship.

Sorry to have read that Pegram’s redshirt is burnt.

by 85Boiler on Oct 23, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Hope you didn't waste any beer on this one, T.

The punt turnover wasn’t the end of this game, the end of the game last season in West Lafayette was. Ohio State was pissed at everyone…Purdue was just the victim.

ATM doesn’t look awful, he looks soft and it’s kind of tough to even notice when he’s in a game. Take a look at the 4-star players on Purdue’s roster and their output…or lack there of. He’s just another example of this in West Lafayette.

by boilerdowd on Oct 23, 2010 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that's what's difficult is

that I’m not convinced that Hope is a completely inept coach, but I’m not convinced that he can move the program in the right direction either. As you said "I am not ready to join the “Fire Hope” bandwagon, but a game like this certainly raises a lot of questions." Good line. I think the thing that frustrates me with his coaching is that we’re so inconsistent and that we come completely unprepared some weeks. Losing to MAC teams and playing like they did today is frustrating. I knew it would be tough to play Ohio State after they lost last week, but I expected us to show some life. We’ve had some injuries, but really we’ve only beat 1 legit team this year. I guess I’m just wondering whether you have enough faith that Coach Hope can get them to play at a higher level more consistently. I’m not sure I do.

by boilerg on Oct 23, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

TMill -

In the coming days, please follow up on the redshirt bonfire lit by Coach Hope today.

Who are these kids who are now available and where can they help us? Why on earth were they activated in this game?

Was this Hope ‘loading all the bullets in the gun’ in an attempt to save his job over the season’s remaining games?

I’d appreciate any color you could provide.

by boilerslim on Oct 23, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

I don’t see how this makes sense except for complete desperation on Hope’s part.

by Mattdsm on Oct 23, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pegram

I don’t think his shirt was burned today. Hasn’t he been playing on special teams most of the season?

by BoilerBrewer on Oct 23, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

right on Pegram

I forgot he played special teams. My mistake.

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by BoilerTMill on Oct 23, 2010 5:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hadn't noticed Holmes before today

they have said that he was likely going to play to give us a TE with experience next season since Panfil, Lindsay, and Adams are gone. Though Panfil hasn’t played at all.

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by BoilerTMill on Oct 23, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does it matter?

If we burned some redshirts today? We got our ass kicked, and looked terrible in doing so. That should be the topic of discussion. We will be lucky to win 6 games this year

Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!

by BoilerUpAT on Oct 23, 2010 5:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I missed the open thread

But what the hell happened, opening on offense throwing the ball? I appreciate the idea of keeping OSU from selling out on the run, but it seemed awfully dumb to wait until we got down 21-0 to really start running the zone-read option. Not that it was particularly effective, but it seemed foolish to try attacking OSU through the air from the start.

We really just looked unprepared today on both sides of the ball. We continued to drop our LBs into coverage even when it was clear OSU was looking to gash us on the ground. At least early, I saw little of the D-line stunts that baffled OSU’s line last year. Our alignment often gave OSU 3+ yard holes before the ball was even snapped.

There is certainly nothing for the players to gain from watching this tape. I hope, however, that the staff takes a good long look at this game.

Lord, jager me strength.

by doublegoldandblack on Oct 23, 2010 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

This was the portion of the game I watched...

…before I got disgusted.

I thought we needed to prove we could throw the ball. The throw on the first play of the game was good — it was a completed pass >10 yards past the line of scrimmage for a first down. But after that, it went awry.

The problem then became the we kept getting into third and mid or third and long situations, and when it came time to throw the ball, Henry launched it OOB.

We needed to prove we could throw the ball. We didn’t. That gave OSU the ability to stack the box against the run, and we were fucked.

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by Brad Warbiany on Oct 24, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Today was nothing what I expected.

As a matter of fact, I know of no true Ohio State football fan who believed that would happen. Purdue ALWAYS plays the Buckeyes tough, and 49-0 was the exception rather than the rule.

To be honest, I was more shocked by today’s game than I was by last year. Had you asked me a year ago which was more likely, a seven-TD win or an eight-point shocker, I would have always believed the loss.

Bounce back, Boilers. We know you will. You’ve gotta beat Michigan three straight times.

by Jeff at the BBC on Oct 23, 2010 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Really?!?

Fire Hope…are you all high? How many freshman, redshirt or otherwise, are playing significant minutes on a team with a winning record and fair to good chance at a bowl game?
Yes today was bad, but at no point in this season did we ever expect a win. Let Danny get his guys some experience before we lose our collective minds.

by DocBoiler on Oct 23, 2010 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Tressel showed sone class.

This game could have easily been 90 to 0.

by Docjay00 on Oct 24, 2010 1:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Oops.

Some not sone.

by Docjay00 on Oct 24, 2010 1:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

C'mon DocB...

…are there any good wins in our winning record? (Please don’t say Northwestern unless you’re satisfied being able to say, “I support a team where beating Northwestern is an acceptable level.”)

I’m not reactionary in my desire to see Danny Hope gone. I’ve been wishing/praying/hoping/putting pins in voodoo dolls/chanting over goat’s entrails for him to be gone ever since the 09 Notre Dame game where he called a timeout for them because he didn’t have confidence in his own team. He then had the unmitigated gall to say he’d do the same thing again in the same situation.

He has a losing attitude and that bleeds over into his team. Put him on the road recruiting Florida for us and replace him in the big boy chair.

by VegasBaby on Oct 24, 2010 1:26 AM EDT reply actions  

When your only honest chance to score...

…is a 56 yard field goal attempt at the end of the game, you’re an embarassment.

I’ve seen some bad offensive games in my lifetime, but none worse than this.

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by carmen_fanzone on Oct 24, 2010 7:33 AM EDT reply actions  

apparently a legal play, unlike tripping over the 40 yard line which Michigan did last year

hahahaha, I remember that

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by PurdueMatt on Oct 24, 2010 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Look at Mike Stoops and Arizona....

Who enjoyed a big program win last night….

2004 3–8 (2–6)
2005 3–8 (2–6)
2006 6–6 (4–5)
2007 5–7 (4–5)
2008 8–5 (5–4)
2009 8–5 (6–3)
2010 6–1 (3–1)

You gotta stay the course and allow for program stability. You can’t build a program by panicking in the middle of year 2.

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Oct 24, 2010 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks

For the vote of confidence. After horrible outings like this my support begins to waiver a bit. However, I’ve seen signs of brilliance and fire, so I’m not jumping ship.

BTFU

Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!

by BoilerUpAT on Oct 24, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

My point exactly

It is still very, very early to say he definitely needs to go. I would say Hope has had four awful games (yesterday, Wisconsin, Toledo, Northern Illinois) Three really good games (Michigan, OSU last year, Northwestern this year because of the circumstances), and everything else is fairly middle of the road. I agree there have been some bad calls, especially with the ND timeout last year, but I am still exercising patience. Hope is going to be hear for at least four years unless he kills a hooker or burns down the belltower. There is a lot of time left to see how he is, and he has proven that his teams play much better after the awful outings.

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by BoilerTMill on Oct 24, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if anything positive, look at it like this:

Even if he does get fired, at least this time the “cupboard won’t be left dry”

The man has brought in some decent recruits thus far, so that’s a positive. Although, I am concerned we are ranked at the bottom of the B10 in recruiting on Rivals and Scout.

Whats up with that? Number of commits hurting us? Are we planning on getting any more commits? I thought he said 11-12 for next year was the goal.

Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!

by BoilerUpAT on Oct 24, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess I can give him more time

When you commit to somebody (regardless of how foolish it may have been), you do owe it to the guy to give him a chance to see how he does with his own recruits. However, Hope hasn’t done a lot in recruiting or on the field to impress me so far. It’s quite lenient to count the Northwestern and Michigan games as really good games. We did win them both, but I wasn’t thinking our team is clearly on the right track and clicking on all cylinders after watching them. Consistently losing to a MAC team each year is ridiculous. We shouldn’t even be debating about going to a bowl with our schedule this year and yet we are because we lost to Toledo and Notre Dame. If Navy can dominate Notre Dame, how can we not beat them? I know Purdue isn’t going to be on the level of Ohio State or Alabama any time soon, but is it too much to ask to beat Notre Dame at least once in a while and beat teams from the MAC or at least show some semblance of an effort when we go on the road against a top team?

by boilerg on Oct 24, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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