Know thy NCAA Tournament Opponent Round 2: Washington Huskies.
Before getting into a preview of our possible second round opponent in Washington, John Berkowitz from the SBNation blog UW Dawg Pound agreed to answer a few questions about the Huskies for me. Here is what John has to say about the potential Boilers-Huskies matchup:
This isn't the Rose Bowl now. You're playing our game.
Hammer & Rails: With two bowl games and a four game series in the early 90's, Purdue fans are very familiar with the Husky football program. Basketball is a bit of a mystery though. Purdue is 3-1 all-time against UW and hasn't played them since a strange 2 game series in Seattle on December 8th and 9th way back in 1967. What can you tell us about this year's Husky squad other than they are Pac-10 champs?
UW Dawg Pound: I'm actually old enough to kind of remember that two game series in 1967. I have no idea why they did that. This year's squad can be described as a very blue collar unit. UW is the leading rebounding team in the Pac 10 and one of the leaders in rebounding margin nationally. If you don't hit the boards you won't beat Washington. The Huskies play aggressively on defense and apply a lot of pressure on opposing guards. We have a nine man rotation so we tend to wear teams down. The team is led in scoring by PG Isaiah Thomas, SG Justin Dentmon, PF Jon Brockman, and SF Quincy Pondexter. UW isn't a great outside shooting team. They like to penetrate on offense and it all revolves around Jon Brockman who leads the Pac 10 in career double-doubles pounding it out inside.
H&R: In just taking a quick look at the statistics your squad reminds me a lot of our second round opponent last year in Xavier. They were very balanced with four players in double figures. How do you expect this to match up well with our known defensive prowess?
UWDP: We have a lot of depth and speed at the guard position which tends to help negate tough defenses. Since we are a great rebounding team we get a lot of second and third chances on offense which is good because we aren't exactly a great shooting team.
H&R: I know Washington was not on the short list of Pac-10 favorites this year, especially after a loss to Valpo in last year's CBI. At what point did this begin to feel like a special season for you?
UWDP: We didn't start the season well losing to Portland, Kansas, and Florida State in December. I think most of us felt that special feeling after the first half of conference play when we had a two game lead in conference play. Sweeping the LA schools in Seattle was probably the point where we thought this team was tournament bound.
H&R: This game could be a case of East Coast Bias vs. Big Ten Disrespect when it comes to the media. Which of those do you think is a bigger issue?
UWDP: I don't think it really matters since the game will be played in Portland which gives UW a home court advantage. These games come and go so quickly at this point of the tournament that the media isn't much of a factor. It isn't like the buildup that comes with a Rose Bowl game.
H&R: Finally, what does Washington absolutely need to do to beat Purdue, and what must Purdue do in order to beat Washington?
UWDP: Washington needs to out-rebound the Boilermakers and put pressure on your guards to create mistakes which result in points. Washington's depth on defense is always a factor and it tends to tire teams out late in the second half. Purdue needs to counter the aforementioned and also counter Washington's strength inside by shooting the ball well from the outside. A blizzard of three's from the outside always loosens things up. Washington's guards will pressure the heck out of you and the deep rotation allows them to do that for 40 full minutes. Most importantly Purdue needs to stay out of foul trouble and take away UW's tempo.
Thanks John! I'm looking forward to Saturday.
Washington Huskies
Record: 25-8, 14-4 Pac-10 (regular season champions)
NCAA Tournament Appearances: 14 (first since 2006)
All-Time NCAA Record: 14-14 (best finish: Final Four in 1953)
All-Time Record vs. Purdue: 1-3 (lost last meeting 84-77 on 12/9/1967 in Seattle)
2008-09 common opponents: None
Notable games vs. 2008-09 NCAA Tournament teams: Kansas (L 73-54), Oklahoma State (W 83-65), Portland State W (84-83), Morgan State (W 81-67), California (L 88-85, L 86-71), USC (W 78-73, W 60-51), UCLA (W 86-75, L 85-67), Arizona State (W 84-71, W 73-70, L 75-65), Arizona (L 106-97, W 83-78)
2007-08 record: 16-17, 7-11 Pac-10 (Lost to Valparaiso 72-71 in CBI tournament)
Blog Representation: UW Dawg Pound
By seeding nature, a 4/5 nature is usually one of the most competitive second round games. We are a major conference tournament champion and they are a regular season winner of a major conference. We each have 25 regular season wins. Both teams are tournament tested, as the Huskies (counting Mississippi State) will be 10-7 against NCAA teams. Our record against NCAA Tournament teams if we beat Northern Iowa: 10-7.
As John mentioned, Washington stumbled out of the gate in losing three of their first five games. I do give them credit for having the guts to open the season with a true road game at Portland, though it ended in an 80-74 loss. The Huskies followed that 2-3 start with a nine game winning streak. They truly earned their Pac-10 championship as that conference is the only major conference that has a true round-robin home and away format. Washington grabbed at least a split with everyone except California, which is a major reason why the Golden Bears are dancing as well.
Statistically, Washington reminds me a lot of our second round opponent last year, Xavier. They feature four guys who average in double figures and take care of most of the scoring. Isaiah Thomas (15.4 ppg, 2.5 apg) leads them as a slashing point guard. As mentioned above, no one is a strong outside shooter, but Thomas can get in the lane and disrupt things by scoring or dishing on penetration. It will be critical for us to stay at home on defense so we don't allow the dribble drive. This is a team that we can relax a little bit on the perimeter against.
Shooting guard Justin Dentmon is the team's best 3-point threat, shooting better than 42% from long range. He averages a little more than 15 points per game and also adds 2.5 assists. He is probably their only legitimate threat from long range. Thomas has 37 made 3-pointers on the year, but he shoots worse than 30% from out there. Only backup freshman guard Elston Turner, Dentmon, and Thomas have more than 8 made 3-pointers on the year. Turner averages 3.5 points per game, but mostly because he hits about one 3-pointer per game (23 on the year). It is clear that Washington's guards are not comfortable unless they are getting into the paint, so we have to take that away from them.
Jon Brockman (14.9 ppg, 11.2 rpg) may be the best forward we have faced since Blake Griffin in terms of statistics. He's a tad undersized going against JaJuan at only 6'7", but he makes up for it with a solid 255 pound frame. Think Carl Landry (get well soon, big guy) when you think of Brockman. Washington loves to look for him in the paint and he is an excellent offensive rebounder. We have to get a body on him any time a shot goes up. If we rebound the way we did against Northwestern Brockman will own us.
Forward Quincy Pondexter (11.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg) rounds out the strong foursome for the Huskies. He is also an excellent offensive rebounder and can clean up the messes left by a generally poor shooting team. The fact he is also a good offensive rebounder makes our assignment even more difficult against Brockman.
After Pondexter, the scoring for Washington drops off a bit. Five other guys play at least 13 minutes each night, matching our own nine man rotation. As John mentioned, Washington relies on the depth of its defense to wear teams out. In addition to Turner, we can expect to see Matthew Bryan-Amaning (6.3 ppg), Venoy Overton (5.9 ppg), Darnell Gant (3.1 ppg), and Justin Holiday (2.2 ppg). Washington is also a young-ish team like us. Only Dentmon and Brockman are seniors, but having a senior big man like Brockman will pay big dividends.
Despite the fact that Washington is a very good rebounding team, they do not have a lot of size. Of the regular rotation Brockman is the tallest at just 6'7". That tells me their rebounding comes mostly from effort, so we must return he effort in kind. It will be interesting to see how this plays out if we can go big with Hummel, Calasan, and Johnson at the same time. Hummel should have a size advantage out on the perimeter as well. The Huskies are a team that works very hard on the glass. It is a major staple of their offense. If we equal or better this work ethic we will have an excellent chance at moving on against them.
Washington is a good, but not great defensive team. We are well known for our rule of 64 (24-2 when teams score 64 points or less against us, 1-6 when they get 65 or more). Washington is used to playing at a much faster pace than that. They average nearly 79 points per game, but give up 69.5 in return. In every loss they have given up over 73 points, and in six of them the opponent topped 80. We had similar concerns facing Baylor in the first round last season. We then proceeded to play them at their own game and run them out of the gym.
That is what I think will be a major benefit. We are known as a defensive team, but we can play a versatile style such as that. We adjusted last year with essentially the same personnel against Baylor and won easily. I can see Washington getting frustrated with us slowing down the tempo just as much as I can see us running with them. I would rather have the former, but we can compete with the latter. Washington also already commits almost 15 turnovers per game without having to face the defenses of the Big Ten. They actually commit, on average more turnovers than assists. That is not something I would want when facing our defense.
The biggest key to this game is to not get killed on the boards. We have to rebound like we did against Michigan State in Mackey Arena, not like we did against Northwestern. Robbie Hummel had some great boardwork for three days in Indianapolis and it must continue if we are to face the Huskies. It is absolutely critical that we limit Washington to one shot per possession, especially if that one shot comes from someone other than Brockman. The Huskies do get to the foul line quite a bit and hit about 70% once they are there. Because of that, we must stay out of foul trouble, especially with our bigs. If we can play this game at our pace it gives us a huge advantage. I still like our chances even if we play the game at their pace. Purdue 75, Washington 70.
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Nice job with the preview. A few notes from a Husky perspective:
- UW hasn’t reached a Final Four since 1953 (unfortunately)
- Darnell Gant is the tallest starter on the team at 6’8", though he’s more of 3/4 tweener than a big guy that bangs in the paint; Matthew Bryan-Amaning is the tallest guy in the rotation at 6’9" and backs up Brockman in the middle
- Elston Turner is gaining confidence as the season progresses and is probably the best pure 3-point shooter on the team – if he continues to play with confidence in the Tournament, he’ll give the UW a good outside shooting threat
- The UW features a number of good defensive players in their rotation – Gant is a long-limbed guy at 6’8" but with enough quickness to stay with smaller players – he was used effectively in spurts against ASU’s James Harden this season; Justin Holliday (Jrue’s older brother) is a defensive specialist and at 6’6" with good quickness can guard 1’s, 2’s & 3’s; Venoy Overton is an ultra-quick and aggressive PG that gets right up in the face of opposing guards and can make their life miserable – if the refs call a loose game, he’ll be a major thorn in the side of whoever he guards
- While the UW prefers to play at a faster pace, this season they’ve demonstrated the ability to play slow-down teams effectively; WSU are masters at slowing the pace and have had the Huskies’ number the last few years with their slow-down style, but this season the Huskies have handled the Cougs pace; ASU & UCLA also have tried to slow-down the Huskies, and the UW has prevailed in 3 of the 5 games against those two, so Purdue’s slow-down pace won’t necessarily work to frustrate this UW team
Should be a fun game to watch!
Good point about Turner
I woke up late today and was very pleasantly surprised to see his totals in the boxscore. I hope he can take whatever confidence gained from that showing into the next round. We’ll need it.
by hairofthedawg on Mar 19, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
As bigdave said on the Dawgpound
excellent analysis except for the end result. I’ll admit not knowing much about your team, but I do think you hit the nail on the head with your mention of work ethic. The team that wants this the most will take it. Both teams are young, but our two most prominent players are seniors and I believe their “want” will be firmly communicated to the younger players. I think that’s the thing that’s impressed me the most about the Huskies, the “team” concept.
It’s hard to get across to a lot of younger players these days, but it appears to me that they bought into it.
I have to work on Sunday though, which is when the game airs in Korea. That sucks, but I’m hoping it’s an easy day that allows me to watch.
Good luck and I hope you’re watching us next week.
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cuz i cant post on goldandblack.com yet
ok so i thought i would post my breakdown of our roster over here sense i cant post on the rivals.com site yet for whatever reason…
Starting:
PG – Isaiah Thomas (FR -5’8", 180 – Freshman PAC10 player of the year) – great body control has been off at 3 lately but is one of the best in the country in the lane will drive often and get fouled. Has lately worked a lot harder on his D and has improved…
SG – Justin Dentmon (SR – 5’11", 185 first team all PAC10) – good shooter and at the beginning of the year was nailing well over 50 percent from three but has had a major slump, ice in his veins, good FT shooter when it counts, likes the little jumper/floater around the FT line. Very intelligent player overall and doesn’t make the dumb mistake very often…
SF – Quincy Pondexter – (JR – 6’7, 220) – a complete crap shoot as to how he will play, was supposed to be a one and done but has problems in the game with thinking too much, has been playing very good lately and has found his midrange jumper, very good defender and super athletic, will never hit a 3 and sometimes shift to the 4 guard spot (PF) when we go small, plays best right around this middle of the key. Had a great game against MSU and they never had an answer but typically doesn’t go off like that…
PF – Jon Brockman – (SR – 6’7, 255 first team all PAC10, up for several post season awards but prob won’t get any) – Has a double double almost every game, not very good against bigger guys that can body him up but are longer, will win every hustle play, plays harder than anyone on the court and our senior leader, built like a refrigerator and will plow right through softer guys.
C – Darnell Gant – (FR – 6’8, 215) – Defensive specialist, has a nice little turnaround jumper from baseline but wont score much will battle it out down low or can guard out on 3 point land, absolutely will shut down anyone he is assigned to unless the guy is just bigger than him, shut down James Harden (PAC10 player of year twice this year) will split time with Matthew Bryan-Amaning. Pretty good game overall against MSU but loses his effectiveness against big bodied guys…
Bench: (Ill list guys in order of most mins likely to get but all will get major mins)
PG- Venoy Overton – (SO – 5’11", 185) – perhaps the best defender UW has and should have over 3 steals if he plays in the game, everyone in the PAC10 and now MSU hates him as he is very physical and really gets in your face, wont score much except in transition, possibly one of fastest guy with the ball in NCAA but makes silly mistakes sometimes can hit the open 3 but scores mostly by driving/get fouled
PF/C- Matthew Bryan-Amaning – (SO – 6’9", 235) – comes in for gant and brockman a lot, has an endless supply of post moves and has the potential to be a top ten pick in the draft someday but just hasn’t put it together this year… sometimes he fills the stat sheet with blocks rebounds and points but he usually doesn’t who knows if he will show up or not
SF – Justin Holiday – (SO – 6’6", 180) – brother of Jrue holiday (maybe you’ve heard of him UCLA) great on the ball defender, nickname fireman and will put out any guard that is on fire, longest arms you’ve ever seen and I think someone said he has a 7’3" wingspan or something but not sure if that’s true, will not score much but will get 6+ rebounds and get a put back or two, also likes the 3 point baseline shot but will only take it if left completely wide open.. didn’t play much against MSU for whatever reason
SG – Elston Turner – (FR – 6’4", 205) – will be great one day but he’s just a freshman, perhaps our best 3 point shooter on our team and if left open will rack up points very very quickly, wont drive much, not a very good defender so will only see some mins depending on matchups… absolutely blew up against MSU and was really stroking it… if he continues to shoot like he did he will get more mins
all others will likely not see any time unless the game is pretty much over…
Style:
We play a very up tempo style and really thrive in transition… we out rebound every team and it really doesn’t matter how many guys you pack into the paint we will get the rebound and we will take it to the hoop… size really doesnt matter and if you only have one guy who can score he will most likely be shut down… we struggle a bit at guarding the 3 but lately have done alot better… when Venoy Overton comes into the game you will notice I love that guy but honestly I understand why everyone hates him, he’s an absolute pest on D…
I really don’t know anything about Purdue… to be honest I’m not even sure exactly where Purdue even is, it would be great if one of you guys would write up some stuff about your team cuz its always fun to compares potential matchups and a lot of husky fans would appreciate it… thanks guys have a good one…
by purpleandgold89 on Mar 19, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
purdue roster... (quicker)
JaJuan Johnson (So 6-10/215) – First Team All-Big10 and most improved player in the league this year. Will likely go to the NBA after one more year of strength and conditioning. Also on the all-defensive team and leads the big10 in blocks per game. Has a great mid range shot and FT touch
Robbie Hummel (So 6-8/208) – Preseason Big10 POY, hampered most of the season with a stress fracture in his L5 vertebrae. Playing up to his potential though the last few weeks. Monster on the boards and very dangerous from 3pt. He’s the glue to this team and makes everyone around him better.
E’Twaun Moore (So 6-3/180) – 2nd team all big10 and our all around best shooter and stat sheet filler. can get hot from 3pt and has a pull up jumper that just always seems to go in. we struggle when he goes cold. Prone to turn the ball over, but has improved by not putting the ball on the floor as much.
Chris Kramer (Jr 6-3/205) – 3-time all defense selection, defending DPOY. former HS quarterback that defends in your jersey all game. other schools hate to play against him, but would all love to have him. doesn’t look for his own shot enough, but will drive once or twice a game. clutch FT shooter.
Lewis Jackson (Fr 5-9/165) – Frosh point guard has developed nicely this year. not a big scorer but has the ability to drive to the hole, but frustrating when he misses common layups and has ‘freshmen lapses’ from time to time. looked good in the first round though in regards to decision making. horrible FT shooter but excellent on the ball defender. will be a good matchup with IT.
BENCH:
Keaton Grant (Jr 6-4/207) – Former starter before lewjack, will fill in for PG duties and is instant offense off the bench. Like E’Twuan, has the ability to light it up from the outside, but has been less effective this year after a breakout sophomore season. Again, another great defender like everyone on the purdue squad.
Nemanja Calasan (Sr 6-9/250) – Much wider than JJ, but less talent and athletic ability. Prone to fouls and turnovers. Not afraid to shoot the 3 multiple times a game even right after a miss. Not good at the FT stripe.
Marcus Green (Sr 6-4/229) – usually is manned up with those much bigger than him. good defender and crashes the glass for a decent clip. Not a good jump shooter and not reliable from the line.
That’s about it… if we are allowed spacing and to run the court, we will have a much easier time scoring and finding open looks. If the trio of 3 pt shooters get hot and we shoot like we did in the BTT, then purdue wins comfortably. key will be to stopping UW in their transition game without getting into foul trouble. Can we put enough pressure on the ball to cause turnovers and turn those into points? Can we prevent the ball from entering the lane by falling back on D and getting JJ in position for the blocks? Can we win without winning the rebounding battle? Should be a great game regardless of knowing those answers.
Don't forget Bobby Buckets!!!!
We have a 5th year senior former walk-on, Bobby Riddell. He is a townie from West Lafayette that plays a few spot minutes now and then. He’s a fan favorite and is a pretty good 3-point shooter. Against Penn State at Mackey Arena he had a career high 14 points. he doesn’t play a lot, but is a dangerous 3-point shooter when left alone. Our students call him Bobby Buckets
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oh...
oh… and Purdue is in West Lafayette, IN… 2.5 hours south of Chicago, hour north of Indy along I-65 in the heart of midwest basketball country.
boiler up!
almost sounds like
two teams designed to play against one another. Can we prevent the successful three? We did against MSU Can you stop us from driving? We’ll see. I’m pretty hopeful as a Dawg fan. Regardless, this team will give its all and you’ll know you’ve played. Good luck to a certain extent.













